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That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19

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Re: That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19 

Post#21 » by doogie_hauser » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:10 am

NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Lousy loss. First dud this season.

By this time last season, we've had lousy losses to the Pacers, Magic, and Hornets in OT. But revisionist historians will tell you otherwise.

C's need to improve their defense. And their starting five need to shape up. C's coasting while opponents treat games like they're the playoffs. That's my main takeaway. And even with less than 80% effort, we've won nearly 80% of our games.



They have had a lot of duds this season. Their shooting is down and they’re gonna set a record of 3 point attempts at this rate. 14 for 56 from 3 lol. Nuff said.


Letting Lavine get 36 points tonight was also a factor..
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Re: That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19 

Post#22 » by Parliament10 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:11 am

Should have played more Guys. That 7.5-Man Rotation wasn't working.
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Re: That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19 

Post#23 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:12 am

Well, this game was the poster child why NBA ratings are completely down. 108 three pointers attempted between both teams.

When Boston can’t hit threes, this is the result of 99% of the time.
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Re: That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19 

Post#24 » by Bar Fight » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:16 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Well, this game was the poster child why NBA ratings are completely down. 108 three pointers attempted for both teams.

When Boston can’t hit threes, this is the result of 99% of the time.

Silver already said he's gonna take a look at it. Be prepared for some changes soon
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Re: That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19 

Post#25 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:19 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Well, this game was the poster child why NBA ratings are completely down. 108 three pointers attempted for both teams.

When Boston can’t hit threes, this is the result of 99% of the time.


51.3 attempts this year lol. The next closest team was the 2018-19 rockets with 45.4. Seriously that needs to go down.
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Post#26 » by SuperDeluxe » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:26 am

Parliament10 wrote:Referees should Not be part of the actual Game.

Drew Carter at some point said that that ref (the one who tech'd Joe & JB) had taken over the game. Spot on.
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Post#27 » by SuperDeluxe » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:29 am

Shak_Celts wrote:I never like to see us lose but this one left an extra bitter taste in my mouth. I don't know why but that felt ickier than our other losses. TERRIBLE!

That's what letting LaVine go ham on your team does to one's mouth :D

(Having said that, LaVine looks like an improved player.)
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Post#28 » by redslastlaugh » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:32 am

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The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Well, this game was the poster child why NBA ratings are completely down. 108 three pointers attempted for both teams.

When Boston can’t hit threes, this is the result of 99% of the time.

Silver already said he's gonna take a look at it. Be prepared for some changes soon

Bill Simmons idea is you start the game with a set number of 3pt attempts you can use, like 30 or 40, and there’s a counter on the court next to the shot clock. Counter starts with 30 and then each attempt the counter goes down, 29… then 28 … and that’s how many 3pt attempts you have left. Once you have used your 3PTA attempts, thereafter every shot from anyplace on the court becomes a 2PTA. So that’s Simmons’ idea
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Post#29 » by Parasite » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:43 am

Fat and happy. Good luck turning on the defense in the playoffs boys!
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Post#30 » by tfribs45 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:51 am

Live and die by the three, this group is hooked on jacking up threes win or lose. It would be nice to see some intensity and adjustments made instead of 3 ball 24/7. C’s haven’t looked great in a while. Memphis bullied us at home and now Chitown. Let’s see how they respond on Sat and Christmas Day!
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Post#31 » by Fierce1 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:26 am

Parasite wrote:Fat and happy. Good luck turning on the defense in the playoffs boys!

They already did that in the finals.

Mavs embarrassed the Cs in Game 4 then the Cs bounced back in Game 5 with great defense to close out the series.

Turning on the defense is just about wanting to do it.

What's more concerning is the rebounding.

Cs were leading in the 4th and also had a slight advantage in the boards.

But an early 4th qtr. surge from the Bulls turned the game around.

Bulls got so many 2nd chances early in the 4th and the Cs went from leading by 4 to down by 9 in the middle of the 4th.
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Re: That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19 

Post#32 » by return2glory » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:49 am

This team will go as far as White and Holiday will take them, like last season. They were great last year.
Both are not shooting as well as last season from 3, especially Jrue. They both need to start shooting better. They were a combined 3-16 on 3s today.

Also, when this team struggles shooting 3s like they did this game, they struggle to win. Only 16 points off the bench didn't help. But Joe hardly used this bench. He kept Tatum and KP in too long in the 3rd. Terrible shooting game and not one of Joe's better coaching games.
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Re: That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19 

Post#33 » by Fierce1 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:10 am

White was just 3-12 from 3pt land.

But I don't see anybody posting about how White should take less 3s.

With Mazzulla Ball, you take the good with the bad.

Didn't the Celtics get embarrassed by the Lakers and Clippers last season, at the Garden?

This is just one of those games where the shots were not falling.

Even JT missed a dunk in this game.

And hard to believe the Cs still haven't lost by double digits this season.
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Post#34 » by Tatumfor2 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:31 am

3 loses at home already this season. Every banner year we were exceptional at home.
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Re: That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19 

Post#35 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:38 am

Fierce1 wrote:White was just 3-12 from 3pt land.

But I don't see anybody posting about how White should take less 3s.

With Mazzulla Ball, you take the good with the bad.

Didn't the Celtics get embarrassed by the Lakers and Clippers last season, at the Garden?

This is just one of those games where the shots were not falling.

Even JT missed a dunk in this game.

And hard to believe the Cs still haven't lost by double digits this season.



51.3 attempts per game is a ridiculous number. Get that down to 42.5
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Post#36 » by Jellybeans » Fri Dec 20, 2024 6:52 am

Sure we werent great but in NBA ref cannot fcking go on power trip like this.
Your ego is really that big??
JB's O without JT on court this season has been....
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Re: That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19 

Post#37 » by Fierce1 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 6:56 am

NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:White was just 3-12 from 3pt land.

But I don't see anybody posting about how White should take less 3s.

With Mazzulla Ball, you take the good with the bad.

Didn't the Celtics get embarrassed by the Lakers and Clippers last season, at the Garden?

This is just one of those games where the shots were not falling.

Even JT missed a dunk in this game.

And hard to believe the Cs still haven't lost by double digits this season.



51.3 attempts per game is a ridiculous number. Get that down to 42.5

I don't disagree with you about that because it's true 51 attempts is really high.

But that's something beyond our control.

The good news is I don't think that will be the case in the playoffs.

Right now Joe and the boys are just messing around.

It's very obvious the sense of urgency last season is not present this season and JB already said complacency will be a problem this season.
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Re: That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19 

Post#38 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:32 am

This time last season: 21-6, 60.0%, TS%, #5 offense, #3 defense, +9.9 net
This time this season: 21-6, 59.2% TS%, #3 offense, #9 defense, +10.8 net

Still having a better ranked offense and higher net rating despite worse shooting this season. I keep repeating myself, but defense has been the issue.

The good news: Defense has been near elite when both JT and JB are on the floor -- 89th percentile.
The bad news: Defense has been average to subpar when either of them sits -- 38th percentile w/ JB; 58th percentile w/ JT.

We're also +10.6 points per 100 possessions worse on defense when PP is on the floor (they make it up on offense). PP has been on the floor this season quite a lot.
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Re: That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19 

Post#39 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:39 am

This time last season: 4th in Points in the Paint allowed
This time this season: 25th in Points in the Paint allowed (16th since KP returned)

This time last season: 2nd in opponent FG% within 5 ft of the rim
This time this season: 16th in opponent FG% within 5 ft of the rim (1st since KP returned)

Whatever happened start of the 4th can't happen. Joe addressed it post-game. That godawful 4-guard lineup let their poor shooting affect their transition defense. It was a layup line (well even after Springer and Pritchard finally sat). Bulls had an offensive rating of 140.0 and an effective FG% of 70.5% in the 4th lol.
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Re: That Game Was a Bunch Of Bull! Loss vs CHI 12/19 

Post#40 » by Fierce1 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:51 am

For those who wanted Springer getting minutes, we got our answer.

That's why it's inevitable he gets traded.

It's a waste of money and it's a waste of a roster spot that would be better off given to a guy like Lonnie.

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