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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4801 » by GEOLINK » Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:46 pm

knicks94 wrote:Juan Soto said in an interview that no one from the Yankees mistreated his family. He says they are a 1A organization and his experiences with the team were great.

Think people by now should know not to trust Jon Heyman.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4802 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:26 pm

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knicks94 wrote:Juan Soto said in an interview that no one from the Yankees mistreated his family. He says they are a 1A organization and his experiences with the team were great.

Think people by now should know not to trust Jon Heyman.


GEO, c'mon. :lol: You know Soto is just trying to avoid a media brouhaha.

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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4803 » by Rich Rane » Sat Dec 21, 2024 3:37 am

Trevino's gone for what looks like a salary dump. Full time catcher duty to Wells.
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Post#4804 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:56 am

Rich Rane wrote:Trevino's gone for what looks like a salary dump. Full time catcher duty to Wells.


We have prospect depth at the position? This is a gamble seeing how his bat fell off a cliff last season and never returned.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4805 » by KnicksGadfly » Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:05 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:Trevino's gone for what looks like a salary dump. Full time catcher duty to Wells.


We have prospect depth at the position? This is a gamble seeing how his bat fell off a cliff last season and never returned.


Don't think Trevino was better, but yea...this was just a salary dump. I think we might see more Ben Rice this season. It looks like the Yankees think he's a catcher, and although he didn't do so great in his call-up, he was fast-tracked. Plus, he's cheap.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4806 » by Butch718 » Sat Dec 21, 2024 6:42 am

Matt Blake is gonna turn a 34 year old Fernando Cruz into one of the best middle relievers in the game next year. :lol:

Too bad we’re settling for Santana or Goldschmidt at 1B. Which means another year wasting whatever productive prime years Cole or Judge have left. I would honestly prefer to play Rice over signing those two.

Either Hal gives the green light to Cashman to go all-in, or not. You simply cannot go into the season signing over the hill players at 1B. They also still need either 2B or 3B depending on which position Jazz plays. As of right now, the offense isn’t good enough to win it all. Not even close.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4807 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:31 am

Rich Rane wrote:Trevino's gone for what looks like a salary dump. Full time catcher duty to Wells.


Meh. He was ass anyway.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4808 » by knicks94 » Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:17 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:Trevino's gone for what looks like a salary dump. Full time catcher duty to Wells.


Meh. He was ass anyway.

I seriously had no idea Trevino was still on this team. Did Cashman also sign him for 7 years?
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4809 » by The KnicksFix » Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:24 am

Weird trade, Cruz is 34
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4810 » by Rich Rane » Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:30 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:Trevino's gone for what looks like a salary dump. Full time catcher duty to Wells.


We have prospect depth at the position? This is a gamble seeing how his bat fell off a cliff last season and never returned.


Trevino's bat fell off a cliff a month and a half into his All-Star season, but his glove kept him in high regard. Then 2 seasons ago he tore a ligament in his wrist in Spring Training and tried to play through it and then he dug himself a hole at the bottom of that cliff.

KnicksGadfly wrote:Don't think Trevino was better, but yea...this was just a salary dump. I think we might see more Ben Rice this season. It looks like the Yankees think he's a catcher, and although he didn't do so great in his call-up, he was fast-tracked. Plus, he's cheap.


I'd keep an eye on JC Escarra. He did well in AAA as a lefty bat and pretty much made Narvaez expendable last season.

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Rich Rane wrote:Trevino's gone for what looks like a salary dump. Full time catcher duty to Wells.


Meh. He was ass anyway.

I seriously had no idea Trevino was still on this team. Did Cashman also sign him for 7 years?


Final year of arbitration.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4811 » by knicks94 » Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:34 pm

Rich Rane wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:Trevino's gone for what looks like a salary dump. Full time catcher duty to Wells.


We have prospect depth at the position? This is a gamble seeing how his bat fell off a cliff last season and never returned.


Trevino's bat fell off a cliff a month and a half into his All-Star season, but his glove kept him in high regard. Then 2 seasons ago he tore a ligament in his wrist in Spring Training and tried to play through it and then he dug himself a hole at the bottom of that cliff.

KnicksGadfly wrote:Don't think Trevino was better, but yea...this was just a salary dump. I think we might see more Ben Rice this season. It looks like the Yankees think he's a catcher, and although he didn't do so great in his call-up, he was fast-tracked. Plus, he's cheap.


I'd keep an eye on JC Escarra. He did well in AAA as a lefty bat and pretty much made Narvaez expendable last season.

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Meh. He was ass anyway.

I seriously had no idea Trevino was still on this team. Did Cashman also sign him for 7 years?


Final year of arbitration.

Cashman really got fortunate when Trevino, Holmes and Nestor put up all-star numbers. The problem is that he held on to those guys for too long.
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Post#4812 » by SelbyCobra » Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:24 pm

You guys are missing it here. Cashman has once again made a trade at the fringes of the roster and ended up with a piece that shouldn't have been available in work at the fringes of the roster. Cruz is the perfect lump of clay to hand to this organization - he's got some of the most dependable analytics for a relief pitcher who hasn't yet become a star, and he's controllable for 4 more years. All for his backup catcher that is more name than production at this point.

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With 109 strikeouts in 66 2/3 innings, Cruz’s 14.72 K/9 ratio was the Majors’ highest among pitchers with at least 50 innings, and his 37.8% strikeout rate ranked third.

Over three big league seasons with the Reds, Cruz has gone 4-11 with a 4.52 ERA in 141 games (seven starts). Since 2023, his 185 strikeouts as a reliever are fifth most in the Majors, trailing only Bryan Abreu (203), Aroldis Chapman (201), Josh Hader (190) and Tanner Scott (188).

Cruz figures to provide the Yanks with another big arm at the back of the bullpen, acquired just days after the club brought in closer Devin Williams in a swap with the Brewers.


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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4813 » by knicks94 » Sat Dec 21, 2024 3:42 pm

I really don't understand why guys like Alonso choose Boras as their client. Do they believe that they are the most talented players in baseball and that teams are going to be lining up to sign them? If you aren't at the level of a Soto, Arod or Cole it is a very poor decision to do business with Boras.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4814 » by Ray Williams » Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:03 pm

Hearing that signing Goldschmidt is to convince Arrenado to accept trade, they want both.Already tried for Arrenado offering Stroman
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4815 » by knicks94 » Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:35 pm

Stroman for Arenado? Looks like Cashman did not learn a thing from the Monty for Bader debacle.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4816 » by Rich Rane » Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:54 pm

knicks94 wrote:Stroman for Arenado? Looks like Cashman did not learn a thing from the Monty for Bader debacle.


Montgomery was still young and already solid with like a mid rotation ceiling. I know you could never have enough pitching, but Stroman was not good last year and is a very expensive 6th starter.

Either way, Cards said no.

SelbyCobra wrote:You guys are missing it here. Cashman has once again made a trade at the fringes of the roster and ended up with a piece that shouldn't have been available in work at the fringes of the roster. Cruz is the perfect lump of clay to hand to this organization - he's got some of the most dependable analytics for a relief pitcher who hasn't yet become a star, and he's controllable for 4 more years. All for his backup catcher that is more name than production at this point.


Hope you're right and he breaks out in pinstripes. Bullpen still doesn't have a lefty.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4817 » by knicks94 » Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:58 pm

Rich Rane wrote:
knicks94 wrote:Stroman for Arenado? Looks like Cashman did not learn a thing from the Monty for Bader debacle.


Montgomery was still young and already solid with like a mid rotation ceiling. I know you could never have enough pitching, but Stroman was not good last year and is a very expensive 6th starter.

Either way, Cards said no.


I could never diminish the value of a starting pitcher. Yes, Stroman wasn't good in the second half last season, but we need as much pitching depth as possible. When you look at our rotation everyone is injury prone, and there are going to be guys going on the IL from April to September.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4818 » by Rich Rane » Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:10 pm

knicks94 wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:
knicks94 wrote:Stroman for Arenado? Looks like Cashman did not learn a thing from the Monty for Bader debacle.


Montgomery was still young and already solid with like a mid rotation ceiling. I know you could never have enough pitching, but Stroman was not good last year and is a very expensive 6th starter.

Either way, Cards said no.


I could never diminish the value of a starting pitcher. Yes, Stroman wasn't good in the second half last season, but we need as much pitching depth as possible. When you look at our rotation everyone is injury prone, and there are going to be guys going on the IL from April to September.


If we could keep him as a 6th starter on his contract year, I wouldn't argue if it was only that. However, the reality is he's making $18 million this year. I think any GM would look to move him if they were in Cashman's position.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4819 » by Rich Rane » Sat Dec 21, 2024 6:12 pm

Yankees sign Goldschmidt, $12.5 million/1 year. Yanks plan is pretty much out in the open for next offseason.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4820 » by knicks94 » Sat Dec 21, 2024 6:19 pm

Rich Rane wrote:Yankees sign Goldschmidt, $12.5 million/1 year. Yanks plan is pretty much out in the open for next offseason.

Now Cashman can acquire his dream 3rd baseman Arenado.

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