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2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#301 » by djFan71 » Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:51 pm

165bows wrote:
djFan71 wrote:Putting names to it. F/C types I'm intrigued by:

Asa Newell
Noa Essengue
CMB
Kanon Catchings
Mackenzie Mgbako
Rasheer Fleming
JT Toppin

Bigger scoring and/or playmaking wings:
Will Riley, Nique Clifford, Thiero, Carter Bryant

Lead guards with some size: Proctor, Kam Jones, Sallis

New names I wanna look at still: Thomas Sorber, Jeremiah Fears

I'm not saying I take all those guys over Karaban or that I've done extensive analysis on them even, but the idea of them is more in line with what I want to add to this team and develop for a year or 2 after the draft.

He’s prob not as good on D but I’m wondering if anyone’s made the Bam comp for Sorber yet.

Need Hal or someone that hangs out in the draft board and draft twitter to fill me in on if that’s a fresh take or I’m just late to the party lol.

Noceilings is in on him. Has us picking him at 29. Probably got it from you, though.
I also like that you had to qualify him as probably not being as good as Bam on D. :)
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#302 » by 165bows » Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:02 pm

djFan71 wrote:
165bows wrote:
djFan71 wrote:Putting names to it. F/C types I'm intrigued by:

Asa Newell
Noa Essengue
CMB
Kanon Catchings
Mackenzie Mgbako
Rasheer Fleming
JT Toppin

Bigger scoring and/or playmaking wings:
Will Riley, Nique Clifford, Thiero, Carter Bryant

Lead guards with some size: Proctor, Kam Jones, Sallis

New names I wanna look at still: Thomas Sorber, Jeremiah Fears

I'm not saying I take all those guys over Karaban or that I've done extensive analysis on them even, but the idea of them is more in line with what I want to add to this team and develop for a year or 2 after the draft.

He’s prob not as good on D but I’m wondering if anyone’s made the Bam comp for Sorber yet.

Need Hal or someone that hangs out in the draft board and draft twitter to fill me in on if that’s a fresh take or I’m just late to the party lol.

Noceilings is in on him. Has us picking him at 29. Probably got it from you, though.
I also like that you had to qualify him as probably not being as good as Bam on D. :)

Def getting ahead of myself on this one based on his results against mainly crummy teams. Going to stick w it tho.
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Post#303 » by phincsfan » Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:52 pm

djFan71 wrote:Putting names to it. F/C types I'm intrigued by:

Asa Newell
Noa Essengue
CMB
Kanon Catchings
Mackenzie Mgbako
Rasheer Fleming
JT Toppin

Bigger scoring and/or playmaking wings:
Will Riley, Nique Clifford, Thiero, Carter Bryant

Lead guards with some size: Proctor, Kam Jones, Sallis

New names I wanna look at still: Thomas Sorber, Jeremiah Fears

I'm not saying I take all those guys over Karaban or that I've done extensive analysis on them even, but the idea of them is more in line with what I want to add to this team and develop for a year or 2 after the draft.


Newell is real good. Can't see him not being a lottery pick.

Toppin is all over the mocks. TT's schedule is pretty soft right now, but Jan it gets tough. I'm also intrigued by him.

I'm on the Proctor train right now
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#304 » by djFan71 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:44 pm

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djFan71 wrote:Putting names to it. F/C types I'm intrigued by:

Asa Newell
Noa Essengue
CMB
Kanon Catchings
Mackenzie Mgbako
Rasheer Fleming
JT Toppin

Bigger scoring and/or playmaking wings:
Will Riley, Nique Clifford, Thiero, Carter Bryant

Lead guards with some size: Proctor, Kam Jones, Sallis

New names I wanna look at still: Thomas Sorber, Jeremiah Fears

I'm not saying I take all those guys over Karaban or that I've done extensive analysis on them even, but the idea of them is more in line with what I want to add to this team and develop for a year or 2 after the draft.


Newell is real good. Can't see him not being a lottery pick.

Toppin is all over the mocks. TT's schedule is pretty soft right now, but Jan it gets tough. I'm also intrigued by him.

I'm on the Proctor train right now

Yeah, I cheated on Newell, but one mock I saw had him at 26 so, close enough. Think it was Ersin Demir, but he’s always outside the consensus.
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Post#305 » by djFan71 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:12 pm

Speaking of Ersin, he posted round 2 of his big board today. 31 is Eric Dixon fromVillanova who I haven't heard of / looked at yet.

https://edemirnba.substack.com/p/2025-nba-draft-big-board-20-round

And I looked at round 1, and it was him with Newell at 26. Doubtful he lasts that long, but if he slides to trade up range, I'd be interested. It's actually not a mock, but his big board.
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Post#306 » by phincsfan » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:56 pm

Danny Wolf looked pretty good the other night
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Post#307 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:36 pm

Interesting PG showdown last night with Dylan Harper (projected top-3 pick) squaring off against Xaivian Lee (projected late 1st-undrafted)… with both players looking pretty nice

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Post#308 » by brackdan70 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:57 pm

Never draft an ivy leaguer
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Post#309 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:38 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Never draft an ivy leaguer


Bill Bradley????
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Post#310 » by brackdan70 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:41 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:Never draft an ivy leaguer


Bill Bradley????

Rhodes Scholars are the exception.
Jordan Walsh > Lonnie Walker and Charles Bassey
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Post#311 » by redslastlaugh » Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:43 am

shackles10 wrote:Too early to dig the grave, but IF Baylor is a bust then we shouldn't be worried about overlap with him. And actually, we drafted someone who's kind of an overlap with Hauser without issue so if there's a versatile shooter to be had who won't get killed on defense it might be one of the best positions to look for this late in the draft where everyone has some kind of flaw.

I agree it’s too early to call him a bust, but IF he isn’t an NBA player… we’re looking at a team with only one first round pick, Payton Pritchard, drafted post Jayson Tatum on the roster. And PP is 27 years old.

I was looking at the roster and only one player younger than JT (26) has played 200 minutes this season, and that’s Queta who is 25 himself.

Of the draft since Brad took over we took
2021: Juhann Begarin (Hauser undrafted)
2022: JD Davison
2023: Jordan Walsh (Peterson undrafted)
2024: Scheierman and Anton Watson

Scheierman and Watson, who knows at this point. Walsh could still turn into something. Hauser and Peterson are both over 25.

Presently we have 2 picks in the upcoming draft, 28 and 31. I hope we keep both picks and wouldn’t even mind trading for another pick since this a good draft. I’d love a high yield draft like an Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Tony Allen haul where we get a few young players to develop coming out of the draft.

The current iteration of this team with Al, KP, White, Jrue … these pieces are going to start to age out and I think this is the right time to restock the younger end of the roster so hopefully in three years we have some young vets ready to step up around the Jays
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Post#312 » by phincsfan » Thu Dec 26, 2024 3:55 pm

I still don't see a team who can beat this team in a 7 game series, even if they don't have home court advantage.

With that said, this team needs a legit back-up G, preferably a PG and one who is taller than 6'2" and who can contribute right away.
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Post#313 » by 165bows » Thu Dec 26, 2024 8:24 pm

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shackles10 wrote:Too early to dig the grave, but IF Baylor is a bust then we shouldn't be worried about overlap with him. And actually, we drafted someone who's kind of an overlap with Hauser without issue so if there's a versatile shooter to be had who won't get killed on defense it might be one of the best positions to look for this late in the draft where everyone has some kind of flaw.

I agree it’s too early to call him a bust, but IF he isn’t an NBA player… we’re looking at a team with only one first round pick, Payton Pritchard, drafted post Jayson Tatum on the roster. And PP is 27 years old.

I was looking at the roster and only one player younger than JT (26) has played 200 minutes this season, and that’s Queta who is 25 himself.

Of the draft since Brad took over we took
2021: Juhann Begarin (Hauser undrafted)
2022: JD Davison
2023: Jordan Walsh (Peterson undrafted)
2024: Scheierman and Anton Watson

Scheierman and Watson, who knows at this point. Walsh could still turn into something. Hauser and Peterson are both over 25.

Presently we have 2 picks in the upcoming draft, 28 and 31. I hope we keep both picks and wouldn’t even mind trading for another pick since this a good draft. I’d love a high yield draft like an Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Tony Allen haul where we get a few young players to develop coming out of the draft.

The current iteration of this team with Al, KP, White, Jrue … these pieces are going to start to age out and I think this is the right time to restock the younger end of the roster so hopefully in three years we have some young vets ready to step up around the Jays

Brad so far has been really mediocre in the draft though one can’t really fault him for not hitting on guys in the 50s of the draft.

Otoh he’s more than made up for it in the various udfa markets - Hauser, Kornet, Queta have all been good to great in some form or another. Peterson looks like a possible.
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Post#314 » by 165bows » Thu Dec 26, 2024 8:25 pm

Anyone else think Johni Broome looks like Carlos Boozer?

Edit: worth noting that Ryan Kalkbrenner is mocked to Boston at #31 in the Tankathon mock, has the single best NCAA career offensive rating in the Bbref database.
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Post#315 » by Hal14 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 8:49 pm

165bows wrote:Anyone else think Johni Broome looks like Carlos Boozer?

Yes - def looks like they could be related.
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
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Post#316 » by 165bows » Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:06 pm

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165bows wrote:Anyone else think Johni Broome looks like Carlos Boozer?

Yes - def looks like they could be related.

Kam Jones, Kalkbrenner, Karaban and Thomas Sorber are my guys so far in this draft.

With Adou Thiero intriguing as well.
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Post#317 » by redslastlaugh » Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:44 pm

165bows wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Presently we have 2 picks in the upcoming draft, 28 and 31. I hope we keep both picks and wouldn’t even mind trading for another pick since this a good draft. I’d love a high yield draft like an Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Tony Allen haul where we get a few young players to develop coming out of the draft.

The current iteration of this team with Al, KP, White, Jrue … these pieces are going to start to age out and I think this is the right time to restock the younger end of the roster so hopefully in three years we have some young vets ready to step up around the Jays

Brad so far has been really mediocre in the draft though one can’t really fault him for not hitting on guys in the 50s of the draft.

Otoh he’s more than made up for it in the various udfa markets - Hauser, Kornet, Queta have all been good to great in some form or another. Peterson looks like a possible.

Yeah it is encouraging how Brad has scored with bargain basement FAs like Hauser, Queta, & Kornet, but also concerning how little yield he’s gotten from his draft picks.

Brads always been enamored with the Duncan Spurs and how they managed to stay in the mix for two decades, but a significant reason for their longevity was getting plus-level value from guys over performing rookie contracts and just generally drafting well. Outside of the lottery, after the SAS 07 championship, Pop and RC drafted George Hill, Splitter, Patty Mills, Kawhi, Davis Bertans, DeJuan Blair, Cory Joseph, Kyle Anderson, etc.

And then at the end of the run, drafting Dejounte Murray and the D. White both at pick #29. That’s so much talent without ever picking in the lottery.

Once they had TD, Tony, and Manu, finding value at the spot where they were drafting and then finding steals off the bargain bin in free agency like Danny Green and Gary Neal, that’s how they kept it going.

Of course, Brad has done a great job, we won that thing last summer, but a big part of why we’re in luxury tax hell is because we have White, Brodgon, Holiday rather than picks #25, #27, #14 or whatever… and of course I’d take veteran all stars over late first round picks but you can’t have every high minute player making $30 million a year and managing the payroll through hitting on draft picks was sort of like the secret sauce for San Antone
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Post#318 » by brackdan70 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:06 pm

Are we subtly tanking for Rocco?
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Post#319 » by Patsfan1081 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:49 am

165bows wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:
shackles10 wrote:Too early to dig the grave, but IF Baylor is a bust then we shouldn't be worried about overlap with him. And actually, we drafted someone who's kind of an overlap with Hauser without issue so if there's a versatile shooter to be had who won't get killed on defense it might be one of the best positions to look for this late in the draft where everyone has some kind of flaw.

I agree it’s too early to call him a bust, but IF he isn’t an NBA player… we’re looking at a team with only one first round pick, Payton Pritchard, drafted post Jayson Tatum on the roster. And PP is 27 years old.

I was looking at the roster and only one player younger than JT (26) has played 200 minutes this season, and that’s Queta who is 25 himself.

Of the draft since Brad took over we took
2021: Juhann Begarin (Hauser undrafted)
2022: JD Davison
2023: Jordan Walsh (Peterson undrafted)
2024: Scheierman and Anton Watson

Scheierman and Watson, who knows at this point. Walsh could still turn into something. Hauser and Peterson are both over 25.

Presently we have 2 picks in the upcoming draft, 28 and 31. I hope we keep both picks and wouldn’t even mind trading for another pick since this a good draft. I’d love a high yield draft like an Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Tony Allen haul where we get a few young players to develop coming out of the draft.

The current iteration of this team with Al, KP, White, Jrue … these pieces are going to start to age out and I think this is the right time to restock the younger end of the roster so hopefully in three years we have some young vets ready to step up around the Jays

Brad so far has been really mediocre in the draft though one can’t really fault him for not hitting on guys in the 50s of the draft.

Otoh he’s more than made up for it in the various udfa markets - Hauser, Kornet, Queta have all been good to great in some form or another. Peterson looks like a possible.


He chose to only draft late though. He didn’t have to trade back. I love trader Brad however he hasn’t proven anything draft wise yet and this is probably the draft you would like to see him package picks and move up a little. Pritchard/Band is proof you can find talent in the 20’s.
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Post#320 » by phincsfan » Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:13 pm

B/R has the C's taking Ian Jackson from UNC with the Wiz 2nd rd pick. Their Pro Comparison for Jackson? Lonnie Walker :lol:

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