stuporman wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:stuporman wrote:This should begin to clear up what the Knicks can...and more likely can't do in the trade market. Almost seems like do nothing will be the outcome and maybe the best course of action if it means taking away some of the depth core pieces like Deuce.
Mitch is the only piece that seems like a trade piece because he hasn't been playing and may not fit as well with the current play style but in my opinion he has a role in the rotation if he can stay healthy...yea, I know big 'IF' which he hasn't ever seemed to fulfill.
What ever happened to Jay Huff for the Grizzlies? Is he hurt or just out of the rotation? I'd love for the Knicks to somehow snag him as a stretch center who blocks shots depth piece. He can fill the role KAT does without the elite talent but bring some similar skills.
Basically, that says they might trade Mitch or Precious because Center glut and Precious isn't under contract next year and Mitch is extension eligible and maybe they don't trust his health.
These guys were speculating who possibly could be moved and the Knicks do have some limitations because of cap and apron rules. Unlike previous seasons when they had more flexibility, the Knicks FO have kinda handcuffed themselves somewhat for in season moves this year. Rose has been both obvious and discreet with his moves to date in NY so who knows what he got cooking yet take whatever cues from his time in charge.
I think Deuce, Cam and Precious are safe unless it's a no brainer for a clear upgrade, they are in the Thibs circle of trust, so is Sims to a degree but I think he's part of the available players. Mitch and Sims appear to be the most likely included in any deal but I am not excited about the depth at center spot if both are moved so it depends on what talent is coming back.
My impression is that Kolec and Huk are the keepers in their eyes compared to Pac given his timeline or any of the other end of the bench guys, just imo.
I'm actually leaning towards nothing happens other than out of the rotation depth like maybe TJ Warren type insurance move. I wouldn't be shocked if no trade of any significance happened, a quiet deadline for once as hard as that may seem.
Another thing to keep an eye on with future flexibility is our 2nd rd pick situation. Currently, we own 7 2nd rd picks over the next 7 drafts. But those include Memphis 2025 1st, which is looking like a pick in the 50’s, a top-45 protected 2028 Celtics pick, 2026 least favorable of Pistons, Magic, Bucks (likely a pick around #50).
The 2nds that look to have decent value are the 2nd most favorable of Heat, Rockets, Pacers, Thunder in 2027, favorable of Pacers/Suns 2029 and least favorable of Pacers/Wizards 2030.
We own our own 2nd in 2027
We should probably include Washington 2nds in 2026 and 2027 here as well since it’s highly unlikely that WAS top 8 protected 2026 1st will convey to us, which adds a pick between 31-38 and likely another pick around 40 to this stash.
In theory, you will be able to package cash with the Memphis 25 2nd to move up to grab a guy you like around #40.
But long story short, there are limited shots to utilize 2nd rd picks in trades. The approach of overpaying by 25% in every trade with extra picks can’t continue.
The reality is outside of making an additional trade, there are two moves to make with 2nd rd picks that over the next 5 seasons.