2024-25 NBA Rookie Discussion Thread (Pt. 2)

BAMAFREAK · Post #141 » by **BAMAFREAK** » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:43 am

ItsDanger wrote:

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7seventynine9 · Post #142 » by **7seventynine9** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:54 pm

Edey has to be the front runner for ROY now. 11.3 points, 8.0 rebounds, 1.2 blocks on .604/.429/.638 shooting. I think I'd might have Wells in 2nd over Castle too. He's starting on one of the best teams in the league, plays good D and is shooting lights out.

If Sarr keeps up his current play, he could sneak into the conversation too. Last 11 games, he's averaging 13.7 points, 6.8 boards, 1.9 assists, 1.8 blocks, 0.8 steals on .464/.418/.500 shooting. Missi is another possible candidate, averaging a double double over his last 21 games, 11.1 points, 10.0 rebounds, 1.2 blocks, shooting .577/.000/.652 over that stretch.

It's early though and the award is still wide open and up for grabs. I just don't think Castle is the front runner anymore.

RRR3 · Post #143 » by **RRR3** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 7:32 pm

Edey would run away with it if he got more minutes that’s the only thing that will keep this a race. Seems like he was in fact a good pick despite what many said.

OkcSinceSGA · Post #144 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 7:59 pm

Edey, Castle and Sheppard will end up having the best careers for sure IMO.

Exp0sed · Post #145 » by **Exp0sed** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:30 am

Edey will be the ROTY if he can stay healthy

obviously that doesn't mean he's the best player in this draft but he's easily been the best rookie imo. alot of teams looking real foolish rn...

The Master · Post #146 » by **The Master** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:40 am

Exp0sed wrote:obviously that doesn't mean he's the best player in this draft but he's easily been the best rookie imo. alot of teams looking real foolish rn...

Which teams? Edey is 2-3 years older than every player picked ahead of him - and only Hornets and Blazers could've realistically taken him. Clingan has fantastic splits as a rim protector in limited minutes though, so I doubt he's a worse prospect by any means, in fact, he may be the best rookie this season from perspective of long-term projection. Hornets wanted to invest in Williams (?) and Salaun looks suspicious, they may regret their pick, but the French dude is still 19yo.

There was a group of people questioning Edey's portability to the NBA - yeah, he proved them wrong, he'll be a starter in this league for years to come - but he's still a 22yo top10 pick, him being NBA ready isn't being ahead of the curve from objective perspective.

perempe20 · Post #147 » by **perempe20** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:22 am

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0:54 wath him catching Dejounte Murray's lob pass

Special_Puppy · Post #148 » by **Special_Puppy** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 5:38 am

Exp0sed wrote:Edey will be the ROTY if he can stay healthy

obviously that doesn't mean he's the best player in this draft but he's easily been the best rookie imo. alot of teams looking real foolish rn...

I mean Edey was drafted 9th overall. I had him as the 11th best prospect headed into the draft so it’s not like he slid a bunch

BAMAFREAK · Post #149 » by **BAMAFREAK** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 6:01 am

The Master wrote:
Exp0sed wrote:obviously that doesn't mean he's the best player in this draft but he's easily been the best rookie imo. alot of teams looking real foolish rn...

Which teams? Edey is 2-3 years older than every player picked ahead of him - and only Hornets and Blazers could've realistically taken him. Clingan has fantastic splits as a rim protector in limited minutes though, so I doubt he's a worse prospect by any means, in fact, he may be the best rookie this season from perspective of long-term projection. Hornets wanted to invest in Williams (?) and Salaun looks suspicious, they may regret their pick, but the French dude is still 19yo.

There was a group of people questioning Edey's portability to the NBA - yeah, he proved them wrong, he'll be a starter in this league for years to come - but he's still a 22yo top10 pick, him being NBA ready isn't being ahead of the curve from objective perspective.

Your post has a lot of good points and is correct for the most part. But the one thing a lot of people don’t account for is that Edey has only been playing the sport for 6 years. He still has some untapped potential and has already done things this year that he didn’t in college

Dan Z · Post #150 » by **Dan Z** » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:38 am

Tristan da Silva today: 21 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds, a block. 4-10 from three. 8-16 shooting.

Husky1 · Post #151 » by **Husky1** » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:35 am

He might not have the best career or upside per say, but if Tristan Da Silva isn’t best rookie this year I’ll eat my hat

Ducklett · Post #152 » by **Ducklett** » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:16 am

The third Wagner brother, Bronze, also known as the Silva Surfer, winning the Magic another game with 70+ppg out with injury against the Nets today. Just insane.

BadMofoPimp · Post #153 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:00 pm

I have to say Da Silva. Dude is smart.

turnaroundJ · Post #154 » by **turnaroundJ** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:48 am

OkcSinceSGA wrote:Edey, Castle and Sheppard will end up having the best careers for sure IMO.

interesting, what do you see in sheppard? he looks tiny and unable to get much separation.

jasonxxx102 · Post #155 » by **jasonxxx102** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:55 pm

It's hilarious how Edey has a good game against a team who's tallest player is maybe 6'10 and everyone is all over him again but no posts during games against real teams.

Edey has had 2 statistically good games this year against Toronto and Brooklyn lmao

Taking a victory lap on Edey after 20 games just proves people are only looking at box scores. Just wait till the playoffs when the games actually matter and Edey is firmly parked on the bench. Gonna be really quiet in here :lol:

jasonxxx102 · Post #156 » by **jasonxxx102** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:59 pm

People look at Edey's raw +/- and will tell you he's +126 this season, AMAZING! What they don't tell you is that the Grizzlies are +202 in those games.

Congrats everyone, you were totally right about the Grizzlies being so good tricking everyone into thinking Edey was good LOL

The Moose · Post #157 » by **The Moose** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:03 pm

jasonxxx102 wrote:People look at Edey's raw +/- and will tell you he's +126 this season, AMAZING! What they don't tell you is that the Grizzlies are +202 in those games.

Congrats everyone, you were totally right about the Grizzlies being so good tricking everyone into thinking Edey was good LOL

+6.1 on/off swing

jasonxxx102 · Post #158 » by **jasonxxx102** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:13 pm

The Moose wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:People look at Edey's raw +/- and will tell you he's +126 this season, AMAZING! What they don't tell you is that the Grizzlies are +202 in those games.

Congrats everyone, you were totally right about the Grizzlies being so good tricking everyone into thinking Edey was good LOL

+6.1 on/off swing

Take off JJJ and he's a +1.6. Take off Santi and he's -2.7. Take off Ja and Jaren and he's -1.2

Edey doesn't even have 1000 possessions, I can play with CtG filters all day to find some data to fit my narrative.

The Edey hype is maybe the worst ever, it's almost as bad as the Wiseman hype was. The guy is a 20mpg backup big who literally cannot do anything outside of 3ft and people are comparing him to Yao :crazy:

The Moose · Post #159 » by **The Moose** » Wed Jan 1, 2025 1:10 am

jasonxxx102 wrote:
The Moose wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:People look at Edey's raw +/- and will tell you he's +126 this season, AMAZING! What they don't tell you is that the Grizzlies are +202 in those games.

Congrats everyone, you were totally right about the Grizzlies being so good tricking everyone into thinking Edey was good LOL

+6.1 on/off swing

Take off JJJ and he's a +1.6. Take off Santi and he's -2.7. Take off Ja and Jaren and he's -1.2

Edey doesn't even have 1000 possessions, I can play with CtG filters all day to find some data to fit my narrative.

The Edey hype is maybe the worst ever, it's almost as bad as the Wiseman hype was. The guy is a 20mpg backup big who literally cannot do anything outside of 3ft and people are comparing him to Yao

he's neither Yao or a 20mpg backup, you don't have to argue in hyperbole

In the current NBA landscape stylistically he's in the mold of Zubac and Poeltl, except much bigger and in my opinion likely better given he has shown a propensity for 3pt shooting that neither of those two have shown

FarBeyondDriven · Post #160 » by **FarBeyondDriven** » Wed Jan 1, 2025 7:29 am

The Moose wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:
The Moose wrote:

+6.1 on/off swing

Take off JJJ and he's a +1.6. Take off Santi and he's -2.7. Take off Ja and Jaren and he's -1.2

Edey doesn't even have 1000 possessions, I can play with CtG filters all day to find some data to fit my narrative.

The Edey hype is maybe the worst ever, it's almost as bad as the Wiseman hype was. The guy is a 20mpg backup big who literally cannot do anything outside of 3ft and people are comparing him to Yao

he's neither Yao or a 20mpg backup, you don't have to argue in hyperbole

In the current NBA landscape stylistically he's in the mold of Zubac and Poeltl, except much bigger and in my opinion likely better given he has shown a propensity for 3pt shooting that neither of those two have shown

there's entirely too much consternation about Edey. He's a low level NBA starting center. Not a scrub backup, a legit center. Not a superstar, but he has potential to have monster games and contribute to winning basketball. I don't remember there being this much discussion about similar guys as you've mentioned; Zubac, Poeltl or even guys like Kessler or Adams.

Which 2 rookies are you most high on / impressed with? (Listed alphabetically)