Lakers To Continue Pursuit Of Jonas Valanciunas; Gabe Vincent Available In Trade Talks

[RealGM Wiretap]

The Los Angeles Lakers will continue to try to trade for Jonas Valanciunas or another backup center, according to Michael Scotto of HoopsHype. 

Valanciunas is expected to be available for a second-round pick.

The Lakers are also open to trading Gabe Vincent.

The Lakers most recently acquired Dorian Finney-Smith and are looking to keep Finney-Smith on a long-term deal. 

Via Michael Scotto/HoopsHype

[DKB333]

It would help, but it is not like the Lakers are a JV and DFS away from winning a title.

[Pickled Prunes]

Really? The Lakers are willing to part with Gabe Vincent... the kid averaging 4/1/1 in 19 MPG... the kid with a -23.3 eDiff (bottom 10 in the NBA)... the kid with a PER* of 5.1 (bottom 5 in the NBA)... The LAL are making that kid available in trade talks? They must be desperate!

*I know people don't dig PER, but the top five in PER each season are MVP candidates and the bottom 50 are trash. It is what it is.

[NBA4Lyfe]

Really? The Lakers are willing to part with Gabe Vincent... the kid averaging 4/1/1 in 19 MPG... the kid with a -23.3 eDiff (bottom 10 in the NBA)... the kid with a PER* of 5.1 (bottom 5 in the NBA)... The LAL are making that kid available in trade talks? They must be desperate!

*I know people don't dig PER, but the top five in PER each season are MVP candidates and the bottom 50 are trash. It is what it is.

all these players get shipped, coaches fired.. and the only constant still remains.. maybe they'll figure what the issue is this time..

[donaldtrump_00]

Gabe is a pretty solid player. Lakers kill players value with there horrible style which is based on pure stand still until you receive a pass for a 3pt shot. I don't understand how they do this to every player they land. They strip each player of there style that made them good in the first place. Spencer dinwindie and now that he's back in Dallas his career is back thriving at 31 years old. I'm sure D'Angelo felt the same way. And they tried to make him a defensive stopper? Lebron needs to understand that he can't have a super high usage rate with players that provide something they desperately need. Reaves has alot of heart and unique skill set that allows him to play lakers style basketball. His DNA is different. Some players who put up big numbers on previous teams where the #1 option on that team and playing with James and Davis doesn't make them much other than spot up shooters which won't work for them because they only know one style.

[xchange55]

Really? The Lakers are willing to part with Gabe Vincent... the kid averaging 4/1/1 in 19 MPG... the kid with a -23.3 eDiff (bottom 10 in the NBA)... the kid with a PER* of 5.1 (bottom 5 in the NBA)... The LAL are making that kid available in trade talks? They must be desperate!

*I know people don't dig PER, but the top five in PER each season are MVP candidates and the bottom 50 are trash. It is what it is.

Gabe on/off and net rating still better that Lebron's (hint it's not even close). When so many pieces and parts have come in and the supposed main cog is still here you have to start wondering who/what is the actual problem. Role players aren't expected to be tops in statistical categories - that's why they are bit players.

[niha17]

nobody wants the bum gabe vincent

[circa70]

Really? The Lakers are willing to part with Gabe Vincent... the kid averaging 4/1/1 in 19 MPG... the kid with a -23.3 eDiff (bottom 10 in the NBA)... the kid with a PER* of 5.1 (bottom 5 in the NBA)... The LAL are making that kid available in trade talks? They must be desperate!

*I know people don't dig PER, but the top five in PER each season are MVP candidates and the bottom 50 are trash. It is what it is.

all these players get shipped, coaches fired.. and the only constant still remains.. maybe they'll figure what the issue is this time..

That’s rich coming from a Clipper fan

[dubbmotta]

Gabe is a pretty solid player. Lakers kill players value with there horrible style which is based on pure stand still until you receive a pass for a 3pt shot. I don't understand how they do this to every player they land. They strip each player of there style that made them good in the first place. Spencer dinwindie and now that he's back in Dallas his career is back thriving at 31 years old. I'm sure D'Angelo felt the same way. And they tried to make him a defensive stopper? Lebron needs to understand that he can't have a super high usage rate with players that provide something they desperately need. Reaves has alot of heart and unique skill set that allows him to play lakers style basketball. His DNA is different. Some players who put up big numbers on previous teams where the #1 option on that team and playing with James and Davis doesn't make them much other than spot up shooters which won't work for them because they only know one style.

Gabe had ONE DECENT year bro, and it was a contract year.

[Vegeta10176]

Gabe is a pretty solid player. Lakers kill players value with there horrible style which is based on pure stand still until you receive a pass for a 3pt shot. I don't understand how they do this to every player they land. They strip each player of there style that made them good in the first place. Spencer dinwindie and now that he's back in Dallas his career is back thriving at 31 years old. I'm sure D'Angelo felt the same way. And they tried to make him a defensive stopper? Lebron needs to understand that he can't have a super high usage rate with players that provide something they desperately need. Reaves has alot of heart and unique skill set that allows him to play lakers style basketball. His DNA is different. Some players who put up big numbers on previous teams where the #1 option on that team and playing with James and Davis doesn't make them much other than spot up shooters which won't work for them because they only know one style.

This is the dumbest **** I've ever seen written.. 1. Gabe had one good run in the post season he is a bad shooter he is small and he isn't over atheletic.. He plays ok team defence and is that one post season he shot well above his normal when playing for the lakers he hasn't been good but he has also been injured a lot. 2. Dlo has not been good on any team lol the wolves got rid of him for Mike Conley who has been way better the lakers should of just taken conley rather than go for dlo just because he was younger.. 3. LeBrons usuage rate is wayy down once again showing this to be the dumbest post ever written..

[Vegeta10176]

Really? The Lakers are willing to part with Gabe Vincent... the kid averaging 4/1/1 in 19 MPG... the kid with a -23.3 eDiff (bottom 10 in the NBA)... the kid with a PER* of 5.1 (bottom 5 in the NBA)... The LAL are making that kid available in trade talks? They must be desperate!

*I know people don't dig PER, but the top five in PER each season are MVP candidates and the bottom 50 are trash. It is what it is.

Gabe on/off and net rating still better that Lebron's (hint it's not even close). When so many pieces and parts have come in and the supposed main cog is still here you have to start wondering who/what is the actual problem. Role players aren't expected to be tops in statistical categories - that's why they are bit players.

I think you will find not playing with a centre hurts them when Davis is off the floor.. Role players are meant to bring value like defence and ability to knick down shots if you want to be a contender.. See Boston.. And those role players hit the stat categories too.. You need good role players if you want to contend Gabe is none of those.. DFS is a role player that is good value can shoot relatively well and is a good defender.. Gabe is undersized so gets killed when playing against any decent gaurd and is a poor 3 pt shooter. That is a terrible role player but I hope whatever your team is goes for him..

[Vegeta10176]

Gabe is a pretty solid player. Lakers kill players value with there horrible style which is based on pure stand still until you receive a pass for a 3pt shot. I don't understand how they do this to every player they land. They strip each player of there style that made them good in the first place. Spencer dinwindie and now that he's back in Dallas his career is back thriving at 31 years old. I'm sure D'Angelo felt the same way. And they tried to make him a defensive stopper? Lebron needs to understand that he can't have a super high usage rate with players that provide something they desperately need. Reaves has alot of heart and unique skill set that allows him to play lakers style basketball. His DNA is different. Some players who put up big numbers on previous teams where the #1 option on that team and playing with James and Davis doesn't make them much other than spot up shooters which won't work for them because they only know one style.

The other dumb thing about this post is Spencer is playing with Luka.. Make it make sense lol

[eureca20]

Gabe is a pretty solid player. Lakers kill players value with there horrible style which is based on pure stand still until you receive a pass for a 3pt shot. I don't understand how they do this to every player they land. They strip each player of there style that made them good in the first place. Spencer dinwindie and now that he's back in Dallas his career is back thriving at 31 years old. I'm sure D'Angelo felt the same way. And they tried to make him a defensive stopper? Lebron needs to understand that he can't have a super high usage rate with players that provide something they desperately need. Reaves has alot of heart and unique skill set that allows him to play lakers style basketball. His DNA is different. Some players who put up big numbers on previous teams where the #1 option on that team and playing with James and Davis doesn't make them much other than spot up shooters which won't work for them because they only know one style.

Oh please with that narrative.

DLO/Rui were traded to LA and played very well. DLO had a rough start this year but it wasn't because of the style. He just couldn't hit a shot to his normal level. And Vanderbilt was also great in his role for the Lakers when healthy. He just is never healthy now.

Silly to use Spencer as the example. A minimum waived player who was terrible for 2 years with the Nets. What value did they hurt? He went to the Lakers and was more efficient in his role. Yes he was even more efficient with the Lakers than he was with the Mavs this season. Of course Spencer was going to get less touches with Lebron/AD/DLO/Reaves on the team. Go look at how Spencer plays when Luka/Kyrie are both in the lineup. It's not good. Yes with Luka injured Spencer had more chances to have touches. That is just how it works. And even though he has some hot games here and there he is still shooting terribly for the season.

Both Schroder and Malik Monk went to LA at low/minimum salaries when their market was low and rejuvenated their careers and got bigger deals.

As for Gabe he didn't get a chance to play last year because he was injured the whole time. And if you really take a look at his career he was never very good. He had 1 hot playoff run and got overpaid because of it. Outside of that he was always been an inefficient player. He was pretty bad to start this season while missing wide open 3's. Now he is on a hot streak and his percentage got back up to his normal career averages.

[donaldtrump_00]

Vegeta.... do you actually play basketball? How good of a player are you? Or were you once before? Did you ever thrive at it? Because I'm guessing your not any good. Talking basketball and playing it can change numerous view points.

I know already that players that are use to having the ball don't fare well when they can't set the offense up and do the things that they Excell at. It's dumb to you because your a analytics guy who never played a lick of ball most likely. Gabe did explode in the one playoffs series.

But he also was only a plug in type player for the heat. He was never a star. He's a role player that out played his role.in miami he was good because they run offense that allows players to be themselves. As a laker he is injured alot. But I bet on a team like Boston he'd help them alot. It baffles me when people with no on court basketball skills can tell someone who's played and know the sport.

You go straight off stats and all that nonsense. Why don't you actually know players strengths and weaknesses? Because that's above your analytic brain cell. Spencer dinwidie is good again. But on lakers he sucked. He looked washed up. And like i said. He thrives with Luka because the mavs system is much different than la. And he still struggles a bit. Now that Luka is hurt you noticed he's looked like his old former self. But I know you don't know nothing about that. U need to read stats and listen to everyone else and then jump on they're logic.

Some people know the sport on a higher level than just reading stats and talking drunk. Some people know that these players thrive in different systems.

As for D'Angelo, I've never followed him. But I've seen him have very good seasons. I know he's better than he was with the lakers. He's only 28 years old. He might not be as good as I'm saying but he's still capable of 20 ppg and 5 or 6 assists. No he will never be any good on defense. Lakers demoted him because of that. And tbh reaves is just a better player. So now that he's back on the nets. He will most likely bump his game back up. All I said was he doesn't fit the lakers style. If that's the dumbest thing you ever heard it's because your a failure to read your own nonsense

[Pickled Prunes]

Really? The Lakers are willing to part with Gabe Vincent... the kid averaging 4/1/1 in 19 MPG... the kid with a -23.3 eDiff (bottom 10 in the NBA)... the kid with a PER* of 5.1 (bottom 5 in the NBA)... The LAL are making that kid available in trade talks? They must be desperate!

*I know people don't dig PER, but the top five in PER each season are MVP candidates and the bottom 50 are trash. It is what it is.

Gabe on/off and net rating still better that Lebron's (hint it's not even close). When so many pieces and parts have come in and the supposed main cog is still here you have to start wondering who/what is the actual problem. Role players aren't expected to be tops in statistical categories - that's why they are bit players.

Well, Dlo was first in on/off per 100 possessions for all players that had 30 or more possessions. (Dlo was at 1,500+.) He also lead the team in total on/off (+112) while Lebron was last (-125). So clearly the LAL front office doesn't believe in on/off numbers.

But my bigger point was: It doesn't matter how good or bad Gabe Vincent is in a vacuum, in LAL he's a nothing with an $11m cap hit. Of course he's available in trade talks. Crazy headline!

[Vegeta10176]

Vegeta.... do you actually play basketball? How good of a player are you? Or were you once before? Did you ever thrive at it? Because I'm guessing your not any good. Talking basketball and playing it can change numerous view points.

I know already that players that are use to having the ball don't fare well when they can't set the offense up and do the things that they Excell at. It's dumb to you because your a analytics guy who never played a lick of ball most likely. Gabe did explode in the one playoffs series.

But he also was only a plug in type player for the heat. He was never a star. He's a role player that out played his role.in miami he was good because they run offense that allows players to be themselves. As a laker he is injured alot. But I bet on a team like Boston he'd help them alot. It baffles me when people with no on court basketball skills can tell someone who's played and know the sport.

You go straight off stats and all that nonsense. Why don't you actually know players strengths and weaknesses? Because that's above your analytic brain cell. Spencer dinwidie is good again. But on lakers he sucked. He looked washed up. And like i said. He thrives with Luka because the mavs system is much different than la. And he still struggles a bit. Now that Luka is hurt you noticed he's looked like his old former self. But I know you don't know nothing about that. U need to read stats and listen to everyone else and then jump on they're logic.

Some people know the sport on a higher level than just reading stats and talking drunk. Some people know that these players thrive in different systems.

As for D'Angelo, I've never followed him. But I've seen him have very good seasons. I know he's better than he was with the lakers. He's only 28 years old. He might not be as good as I'm saying but he's still capable of 20 ppg and 5 or 6 assists. No he will never be any good on defense. Lakers demoted him because of that. And tbh reaves is just a better player. So now that he's back on the nets. He will most likely bump his game back up. All I said was he doesn't fit the lakers style. If that's the dumbest thing you ever heard it's because your a failure to read your own nonsense

Since your too dumb to include an in post reply I don't even know what your replying to. Pretty sure I was a better player than you but I do not think you have to be a good player to understand basketball.. There are coaches that are awesome coaches who were not the best players so your entire take is completely asinine as expected from a dumb arse who does not even know how to reply to a post and appears to be a trumptard. Gabe was an below average role player and went off in one post season shooting the lights out from 3 and that's why he got paid but it was an overpay for a guy that tries on defence but isn't able to really make a core difference because of his size and atheltism btw you know this by watching games he is ok on scheme defence but when your running Austin and Dlo which they were two guys who also aren't atheletic and also not great defenders then having gabe is a liability.. Boston has Jrue and White two good size gaurds and they are role players that are far beyond gabe.. They wouldn't pay gabe 11mil to be on their roster.. this is you lacking a fundamental understanding of the salary cap.. You mentioned usuage rate in critism of LBJ whose usuage rate is wayyy down on what it was in his prime and he is still scoring effienctly.. Luka has a far higher usuage rate and often dribbles the clock out just facts.. The difference might be I dunno training camp time to get used to playing with luka.. btw Spencer is ok but how much does he actually contribute to winning.. Because what your saying is the guy thrives when he a much higher usuage but he isn't good enough to be the main guy but also becomes far worse when shunted to being a role player.. I think this may be a Spencer problem.. The furtherest dlo has ever been is to the wcfs he got there with the lakers and he dropped a goose egg.. So keep telling me how good dlo is.. But hey tell me more how you know basketball.. You obviously were not very good if you ever played.

[Vegeta10176]

Gabe is a pretty solid player. Lakers kill players value with there horrible style which is based on pure stand still until you receive a pass for a 3pt shot. I don't understand how they do this to every player they land. They strip each player of there style that made them good in the first place. Spencer dinwindie and now that he's back in Dallas his career is back thriving at 31 years old. I'm sure D'Angelo felt the same way. And they tried to make him a defensive stopper? Lebron needs to understand that he can't have a super high usage rate with players that provide something they desperately need. Reaves has alot of heart and unique skill set that allows him to play lakers style basketball. His DNA is different. Some players who put up big numbers on previous teams where the #1 option on that team and playing with James and Davis doesn't make them much other than spot up shooters which won't work for them because they only know one style.

Oh please with that narrative.

DLO/Rui were traded to LA and played very well. DLO had a rough start this year but it wasn't because of the style. He just couldn't hit a shot to his normal level. And Vanderbilt was also great in his role for the Lakers when healthy. He just is never healthy now.

Silly to use Spencer as the example. A minimum waived player who was terrible for 2 years with the Nets. What value did they hurt? He went to the Lakers and was more efficient in his role. Yes he was even more efficient with the Lakers than he was with the Mavs this season. Of course Spencer was going to get less touches with Lebron/AD/DLO/Reaves on the team. Go look at how Spencer plays when Luka/Kyrie are both in the lineup. It's not good. Yes with Luka injured Spencer had more chances to have touches. That is just how it works. And even though he has some hot games here and there he is still shooting terribly for the season.

Both Schroder and Malik Monk went to LA at low/minimum salaries when their market was low and rejuvenated their careers and got bigger deals.

As for Gabe he didn't get a chance to play last year because he was injured the whole time. And if you really take a look at his career he was never very good. He had 1 hot playoff run and got overpaid because of it. Outside of that he was always been an inefficient player. He was pretty bad to start this season while missing wide open 3's. Now he is on a hot streak and his percentage got back up to his normal career averages.

Facts.. My god some idiots on here though