Grayson to Orlando

[jredsaz]

Grayson Allen is a much better two-way player. Ty Jones is a good backup, which while better than the bad backup the Magic are currently playing, isn't really a post season answer to anything.

they need a PG more than another SG imo.

100%…Tyus as a backup makes a lot more sense. Problem is his one year charity deal that he signed, ostensibly, for a starting role on a cash-strapped contender. I would assume with an understanding that he’d get the “real” contract this summer…he wouldn’t start in ORL and either would Grayson (and 2 yrs at 18m is too much for that)

2/18 is too much for what?

[Skybox]

they need a PG more than another SG imo.

100%…Tyus as a backup makes a lot more sense. Problem is his one year charity deal that he signed, ostensibly, for a starting role on a cash-strapped contender. I would assume with an understanding that he’d get the “real” contract this summer…he wouldn’t start in ORL and either would Grayson (and 2 yrs at 18m is too much for that)

2/18 is too much for what?

Backup 3&D SG on a roster with more pressing needs. Yes, he would not bump KCP or Suggs…Grayson is very good, but ORL needs a playmaker for the second unit.

[Ell Curry]

Allen for Anthony + Jett Howard + 2 2nds makes more sense for Orlando, but Phoenix would have to like Howard.

Orlando saves 3-4M, maybe combine it with a deadline of KCP + 2 or 3 firsts + Anthony Black for a star guard, let's say DeAron Fox? Maybe have to include Cory Joseph to make it work, but that's fine, Kings aren't struggling for guys to cut.

Fox-Suggs-Wagner-Banchero-Goga
Allen-DaSilva-Isaac-CarterJR

would be a pretty damn good top 9. Maybe they let Mo go because of the money, try to draft a ready now backup PG though that's hard, so more likely sign one for the minimum.

Can replace Fox with a better shooter, but I don't really see who. Could be Coby White (take out KCP or take out Black) or Sexton for a cheaper guard.

[jredsaz]

100%…Tyus as a backup makes a lot more sense. Problem is his one year charity deal that he signed, ostensibly, for a starting role on a cash-strapped contender. I would assume with an understanding that he’d get the “real” contract this summer…he wouldn’t start in ORL and either would Grayson (and 2 yrs at 18m is too much for that)

2/18 is too much for what?

Backup 3&D SG on a roster with more pressing needs. Yes, he would not bump KCP or Suggs…Grayson is very good, but ORL needs a playmaker for the second unit.

I would have to disagree. I think the contract fits for a team built like the Magic but positional preference is understandable even though this would preclude the Magic from getting a second string PG.

[Godaddycurse]

2/18 is too much for what?

Backup 3&D SG on a roster with more pressing needs. Yes, he would not bump KCP or Suggs…Grayson is very good, but ORL needs a playmaker for the second unit.

I would have to disagree. I think the contract fits for a team built like the Magic but positional preference is understandable even though this would preclude the Magic from getting a second string PG.

Contract doesnt fit.. Orlando is already deep into the tax next year BEFORE pablos upcoming extension kicks in

[Magic_Johnny12]

100%…Tyus as a backup makes a lot more sense. Problem is his one year charity deal that he signed, ostensibly, for a starting role on a cash-strapped contender. I would assume with an understanding that he’d get the “real” contract this summer…he wouldn’t start in ORL and either would Grayson (and 2 yrs at 18m is too much for that)

2/18 is too much for what?

Backup 3&D SG on a roster with more pressing needs. Yes, he would not bump KCP or Suggs…Grayson is very good, but ORL needs a playmaker for the second unit.

Not only that, but every team in the league knows Phoenix is not in a position of power when dealing. They have EVERYTHING to lose and Orlando has vested interest in them being bad next year so not sure if they would willingly help.

Grayson might be worth a 1st from a contender with a bad contract attached in a vacuum but don’t see him getting that either, all things considered.

Cole is not a cancer that is degrading the team to a level that he’s becoming a distraction. It’s actually the opposite, he’s actually a high morale player, fan favorite and is an expiring next season and has single handily helped Orlando win some tough games during this rough injury riddled stretch.

I would even venture to say that Cole provides more currently than what Grayson could give this team just due to team needs and positional flexibility.

[OrlandoDream]

Orlando isnt giving up a FRP for Grayson Allen.

[jbk1234]

Backup 3&D SG on a roster with more pressing needs. Yes, he would not bump KCP or Suggs…Grayson is very good, but ORL needs a playmaker for the second unit.

I would have to disagree. I think the contract fits for a team built like the Magic but positional preference is understandable even though this would preclude the Magic from getting a second string PG.

Contract doesnt fit.. Orlando is already deep into the tax next year BEFORE pablos upcoming extension kicks in

What am I missing here? Anthony makes $13M per (and he's in the outbox). KCP makes $21M per (and would be better subbing in when Suggs rests). WCJ just signed an extension through 2029 (and can't stay on the court). Mo has a T.O. next summer if they prefer to keep WCJ. There are plenty of ways for the Magic to shed salary.

Win-now teams rarely offer to trade the better player for a far worse one. The only reason it would happen here is because the Suns need that first for a bigger move (and if Butler gets shipped to Memphis the offer ceases to exist). These are the offers you hop on. You want to counter with the worst of Denver/Orlando 1st, I get it. You want to say nah I'll only do it for seconds is a penny-wise-pound-foolish response.

[Mr Puddles]

Orlando has 3 centers better than any center on the Suns roster.

Rather than the Suns adding another PG to an already guard heavy roster, doesn't it make more sense to explore something around WCJ?

[They_Them_Hatin]

Want the 1st but not Anthony. We need size. I do think Grayson can get a late 1st.

[Fo-Real]

[Magic_Johnny12]

Orlando has 3 centers better than any center on the Suns roster.

Rather than the Suns adding another PG to an already guard heavy roster, doesn't it make more sense to explore something around WCJ?

WCJ is not trade eligible this season due to extension.

Also, Carters contract is essential to match salaries for the inevitable consolidation trade.

[orlando_joe]

cole contract was setup so when paolo contract kicks in if they need space they can have it...not taking on contract with ugly player option at end ...just not a need..also if needed this summer do not think cole cost much to move when you can add what 7 mill cash out with him ..