Bears 9.0: Thomas Brown HC audition, offseason/draft prep

[Jcool0]

I mean what do you do in an interview? You talk to a guy.

I wish I had the same opinion on this as you but unfortunately I can't lie to myself

Hopefully it all just works out and we get our guy before someone else does.

No, what I’m saying is that it’s smart to preemptively request to speak to with certain potential candidates so that if your short list doesn’t pan out for whatever reason, you can quickly pivot to the guys that you already have permission to talk to.

Poles may have a list of 4-5 guys that he’s REALLY interested in. But given the number of vacancies, anything could happen and if it does, the search has to continue. I’m other words, requesting permission to speak to a candidate doesn’t instantly make them a top priority.

Other than McCarthy, the Bears don't need "permission" to interview the other candidates.

Teams cant stop you from taking a promotion of any kind such as QB coach to offensive coordinator (you have to call plays) or Coordinator to head coach. But to get that interview you need the permission.

[jnrjr79]

Kevin "no thanks Harbaugh" Warren brought in the build a new stadium and has made zero progress on that other then to say "shovels in dirt in 2025". If that is your hope... Good luck...

Honestly, the stadium is not on Warren. The Bears have only offered to finance the project if they get public money, and the state has consistently rejected public money. If ownership won't cut the check, there is nothing Warren can do about it.

That is the only reason he was brought in, because he got the Viking stadium built. It may not be his money being spent. But it is his job to get it built. Hes not a "football guy" he is a business guy.

I mean, this is silly. It does not matter how competent Warren is. He could be the greatest businessman in the universe, and it wouldn't matter if he didn't have the funding to actually build the darn thing. Saying "it's his job" is just reductive bloviating.

[jnrjr79]

No, what I’m saying is that it’s smart to preemptively request to speak to with certain potential candidates so that if your short list doesn’t pan out for whatever reason, you can quickly pivot to the guys that you already have permission to talk to.

Poles may have a list of 4-5 guys that he’s REALLY interested in. But given the number of vacancies, anything could happen and if it does, the search has to continue. I’m other words, requesting permission to speak to a candidate doesn’t instantly make them a top priority.

Other than McCarthy, the Bears don't need "permission" to interview the other candidates.

They would if they are under contract as coordinators for other teams. Please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. I thought that was the reason that we had to request permission to talk to Johnson, Glenn, Flores etc.

They have been requesting interviews, not asking permission. To my understanding, NFL teams have to allow their coordinators to interview for HC jobs. They can only block when it's a lateral move. It's up to the prospective interviewee to turn the Bears down if they aren't interested.

[Betta Bulleavit]

Other than McCarthy, the Bears don't need "permission" to interview the other candidates.

They would if they are under contract as coordinators for other teams. Please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. I thought that was the reason that we had to request permission to talk to Johnson, Glenn, Flores etc.

They have been requesting interviews, not asking permission. To my understanding, NFL teams have to allow their coordinators to interview for HC jobs. They can only block when it's a lateral move. It's up to the prospective interviewee to turn the Bears down if they aren't interested.

I see. Perhaps my understanding of requesting interviews is a bit off. I thought that such requests were “requesting permission” from each coordinator’s incumbent team. Once granted, the coordinator then determines if they are interested or not.

[jnrjr79]

They would if they are under contract as coordinators for other teams. Please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. I thought that was the reason that we had to request permission to talk to Johnson, Glenn, Flores etc.

They have been requesting interviews, not asking permission. To my understanding, NFL teams have to allow their coordinators to interview for HC jobs. They can only block when it's a lateral move. It's up to the prospective interviewee to turn the Bears down if they aren't interested.

I see. Perhaps my understanding of requesting interviews is a bit off. I thought that such requests were “requesting permission” from each coordinator’s incumbent team. Once granted, the coordinator then determines if they are interested or not.

Yeah, they're just asking the candidates through their agents to interview. I imagine the vast majority will accept.

I agree with your broader point, though - there's no harm asking and it's good to have backup candidates interviewed if your primary targets don't work out.

[fleet]

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I agree with him. It's not necessary. How many of the teams currently looking for HC's are also going to get a new GM, or extend their GM's to align with the coaches?

That is how you end up firing 3 GMs and 5 HCs in 13 years.

If it didn’t matter to anyone, Ryan Poles would not be informing candidates of his status at their interviews. Furthermore, Ben Johnson wouldn’t have mentioned alignment as one of his criteria. Although I prefer to emphasize philosophical alignment.

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[fleet]

No answers. Nothing could have been done about the Bears O-Line. We’re in good hands.

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[Betta Bulleavit]

Yeah, when the philosophy revolves around your team needing offensive linemen, the answer should be to use draft capital and cap space on anyone that calls themselves an offensive lineman. It’s really pretty simple.

[fleet]

Did not expect a positive reflection on Ted Phillips.

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[Betta Bulleavit]

So, this question is for the entire board.

What would a successful off season look like for Poles to you.

So for example, a successful off season for me would be:

Hire a coach that’s in your top 2

Acquire 5 quality players/prospects in the trenches (via draft and/or FA)

Retain Keenan Allen and Larry Borom

Fill out the roster via the draft and FA while maintaining cap flexibility moving forward…whatever that looks like.

How bout you guys?

[fleet]

Must be off the market.

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[Betta Bulleavit]

Must be off the market.

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So then, this would be an indication that their plan is to extend McCarthy? If not, then what gives?

[biggestbullsfan]

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[Betta Bulleavit]

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I know a lot of people will hate this. But if we can’t get Johnson, Carroll is actually my number 2.

[biggestbullsfan]

I’m very curious to see what coaching candidates we are meeting in person.

[Betta Bulleavit]

I’m very curious to see what coaching candidates we are meeting in person.

I would anticipate that Johnson, Glenn, Vrabel and Carroll would all be in person. But that’s just guessing.

[fleet]

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I know a lot of people will hate this. But if we can’t get Johnson, Carroll is actually my number 2.

Kap made a suggestion. Pete for a few years, and an OC who is hired to take over when Pete leaves. Something like that would make interviewing the wide net of anonymous OCs make more sense

[Betta Bulleavit]

I’m very curious to see what coaching candidates we are meeting in person.

I would anticipate that Johnson, Glenn, Vrabel and Carroll would all be in person. But that’s just guessing.

Scratch that. It looks like Johnson’s interviews are all virtual.

[Betta Bulleavit]

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I know a lot of people will hate this. But if we can’t get Johnson, Carroll is actually my number 2.

Kap made a suggestion. Pete for a few years, and an OC who is hired to take over when Pete leaves. Something like that would make interviewing the wide net of anonymous OCs make more sense

Not only that, but if you sign Pete to a 3 year deal, you could extend Poles for 2, which would (in theory) align the coach, the GM and the QB….for a change. Even those that aren’t sold in Poles could probably stomach a 2 year extension.

[othawhitemeat]

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I know a lot of people will hate this. But if we can’t get Johnson, Carroll is actually my number 2.

I agree just cause dude can keep team in tact, unless can trade for Kyle Shanahan or Tomlin