Celts Score Big In The 4th, Join Mile High Club! Victory Cigar vs DEN 1/7

[ConstableGeneva]

Seems quite unfair to use the net on/off when Tatum played mostly with Kornet and didn't play any/all of Queta's minutes. Meanwhile Queta was 4-5 in his only minutes, yet he gets bad press here.

As you stated in another Post Queta's ceiling is higher that Kornet, but Kornet may be more "steady" .. Both True But now would be the time to play Queta over Kornet. Not only would Queta gain the much-needed experience he is lacking, but by playoffs, he can add what Boston can really use. A Bigger Impact than what Kornet can Provide.

Final piece is for anyone who Feels Kornet > Queta, no Problem. It is close and there isn't a Big Edge either way. But I will remain Queta > Kornet. Just hate it when Queta does bad and even sometimes plays well and still gets buried for games at a time.

Defense fell apart when Queta came in. Nuggets went on a 13-2 run as soon as he replaced Kornet in less than 4 mins. It stood out, so not gonna apologize for calling him out. Not all on him since he spent those minutes with PP, a defensive liability. Guy couldn't rebound or box out. He had 0 rebounds again in his 1st half stint as he did in HOU, IINM. For someone with his size and length, that was just unacceptable esp against a geriatric like DAJ. Props to him for finishing around the rim as he should.

It really is hard to get outscored by the Denver bench, esp that 2nd Q start. Even more so with Jokic & Gordon out (which just means an even shallower bench). That Celtics lineup for about 6 mins in the 2nd Q managed to do it somehow with Queta as their defensive anchor.

Boston's defense has fallen apart many times this year. And most of those times, Queta isn't even the game. Point is many should get the blame for that.

That particular post you quoted was about this game. About that 4 minute stretch. The part where the Celtics lost a bulk of their lead. He was a big reason why.

Like I said earlier, fans should be able to call players out when they stink or mess up. Praise them when they do well. Except some of you are so protective and defensive of your binkies. Which is... to each their own I guess.

[ConstableGeneva]

Defense fell apart when Queta came in. Nuggets went on a 13-2 run as soon as he replaced Kornet in less than 4 mins. It stood out, so not gonna apologize for calling him out. Not all on him since he spent those minutes with PP, a defensive liability. Guy couldn't rebound or box out. He had 0 rebounds again in his 1st half stint as he did in HOU, IINM. For someone with his size and length, that was just unacceptable esp against a geriatric like DAJ. Props to him for finishing around the rim as he should.

It really is hard to get outscored by the Denver bench, esp that 2nd Q start. Even more so with Jokic & Gordon out (which just means an even shallower bench). That Celtics lineup for about 6 mins in the 2nd Q managed to do it somehow with Queta as their defensive anchor.

Boston's defense has fallen apart many times this year. And most of those times, Queta isn't even the game. Point is many should get the blame for that.

That particular post you quoted was about this game. About that 4 minute stretch. The part where the Celtics lost a bulk of their lead. He was a big reason why.

Like I said earlier, fans should be able to call players out when they stink or mess up. Praise them when they do well. Except some of you are so protective and defensive of your binkies. Which is... to each their own I guess.

Upon rewatch of the 13-2 run, it was mostly PP **** the bed both ends (passing turnover, shot getting blocked essentially a live turnover, not getting to his man a couple of times, etc.) but Queta being a non-threat on offense allowed DAJ sag into the paint making entry passes tougher. Queta did better when Horford came in. 0 rebounds in 8 mins though?

[playa-hater]

Defense fell apart when Queta came in. Nuggets went on a 13-2 run as soon as he replaced Kornet in less than 4 mins. It stood out, so not gonna apologize for calling him out. Not all on him since he spent those minutes with PP, a defensive liability. Guy couldn't rebound or box out. He had 0 rebounds again in his 1st half stint as he did in HOU, IINM. For someone with his size and length, that was just unacceptable esp against a geriatric like DAJ. Props to him for finishing around the rim as he should.

It really is hard to get outscored by the Denver bench, esp that 2nd Q start. Even more so with Jokic & Gordon out (which just means an even shallower bench). That Celtics lineup for about 6 mins in the 2nd Q managed to do it somehow with Queta as their defensive anchor.

Boston's defense has fallen apart many times this year. And most of those times, Queta isn't even the game. Point is many should get the blame for that.

That particular post you quoted was about this game. About that 4 minute stretch. The part where the Celtics lost a bulk of their lead. He was a big reason why.

Like I said earlier, fans should be able to call players out when they stink or mess up. Praise them when they do well. Except some of you are so protective and defensive of your binkies. Which is... to each their own I guess.

You call out everyone which is fair and fine by me. But I am not being Protective as you say, if it is my belief, or preference, that Queta (and/or Walsh or Peterson) should play over Kornet. The same way I had wanted D White over Smart and Brogdon in the 4th quarters and PP and Nesmith and Hauser over whoever etc.. In fact I think the only player I ever missed on was my beloved Tacko. Still have an unrealistic hope for that one.

I'm not a fan of Double Bigs in general and if a great defensive Big like Rudy Goebert can get in trouble in the playoffs at times what the hell are we doing playing a Big like Kornet (with Al together) who is far more perimeter challenged. It is a recipe that will not end well for us IMO. Boston/Joe has other choices that he needs to consider/develop. Seems like he made up his mind already and that Kornet gets the Nod. That is a philosophy I won't be changing anytime soon.

[ConstableGeneva]

Boston's defense has fallen apart many times this year. And most of those times, Queta isn't even the game. Point is many should get the blame for that.

That particular post you quoted was about this game. About that 4 minute stretch. The part where the Celtics lost a bulk of their lead. He was a big reason why.

Like I said earlier, fans should be able to call players out when they stink or mess up. Praise them when they do well. Except some of you are so protective and defensive of your binkies. Which is... to each their own I guess.

You call out everyone which is fair and fine by me. But I am not being Protective as you say, if it is my belief, or preference, that Queta (and/or Walsh or Peterson) should play over Kornet. The same way I had wanted D White over Smart and Brogdon in the 4th quarters and PP and Nesmith and Hauser over whoever etc.. In fact I think the only player I ever missed on was my beloved Tacko. Still have an unrealistic hope for that one.

I'm not a fan of Double Bigs in general and if a great defensive Big like Rudy Goebert can get in trouble in the playoffs at times what the hell are we doing playing a Big like Kornet (with Al together) who is far more perimeter challenged. It is a recipe that will not end well for us IMO. Boston/Joe has other choices that he needs to consider/develop. Seems like he made up his mind already and that Kornet gets the Nod. That is a philosophy I won't be changing anytime soon.

They can slow-play it with Queta and Walsh since they are both signed for several years. They both get enough burn when KP and one of JB/Hauser aren't available. Just be glad that a vet like Tillman isn't ahead of Queta in the rotation lol.

As for the double big, I don't think we'll see much of it in the postseason if team is fully healthy. It's still the top 8 taking 95% of the available non-garbage minutes.

Double big is aligned with their philosophy since last season of allowing ATB3s though as long as they're protecting the paint. The uncontested corner threes when they overhelp piss me off.

In any case, since KP came back (w/c means more double-big lineups), Cs have moved up the defensive rankings. 4th since KP's return and now 6th overall. I can't argue with the results.

[djFan71]

That particular post you quoted was about this game. About that 4 minute stretch. The part where the Celtics lost a bulk of their lead. He was a big reason why.

Like I said earlier, fans should be able to call players out when they stink or mess up. Praise them when they do well. Except some of you are so protective and defensive of your binkies. Which is... to each their own I guess.

You call out everyone which is fair and fine by me. But I am not being Protective as you say, if it is my belief, or preference, that Queta (and/or Walsh or Peterson) should play over Kornet. The same way I had wanted D White over Smart and Brogdon in the 4th quarters and PP and Nesmith and Hauser over whoever etc.. In fact I think the only player I ever missed on was my beloved Tacko. Still have an unrealistic hope for that one.

I'm not a fan of Double Bigs in general and if a great defensive Big like Rudy Goebert can get in trouble in the playoffs at times what the hell are we doing playing a Big like Kornet (with Al together) who is far more perimeter challenged. It is a recipe that will not end well for us IMO. Boston/Joe has other choices that he needs to consider/develop. Seems like he made up his mind already and that Kornet gets the Nod. That is a philosophy I won't be changing anytime soon.

They can slow-play it with Queta and Walsh since they are both signed for several years. They both get enough burn when KP and one of JB/Hauser aren't available. Just be glad that a vet like Tillman isn't ahead of Queta in the rotation lol.

As for the double big, I don't think we'll see much of it in the postseason if team is fully healthy. It's still the top 8 taking 95% of the available non-garbage minutes.

Double big is aligned with their philosophy since last season of allowing ATB3s though as long as they're protecting the paint. The uncontested corner threes when they overhelp piss me off.

In any case, since KP came back (w/c means more double-big lineups), Cs have moved up the defensive rankings. 4th since KP's return and now 6th overall. I can't argue with the results.

If Joe isn't going to play Walsh (or to a lesser extent Springer), I don't think we really have the personnel to NOT do double big, esp when a top 8 guy is out. We've seen some White/Jrue/Pritchard lineups, but for the most part it's been more double bigs than 3 guards. I don't know if we've done much guard/JB/JT/Hauser/center lineups at all. Would be an interesting one, but Hauser being out a lot probably prevented that.

I'm obviously in the camp of play Walsh more over more double big. With JB, JT, Hauser, Walsh you can go single big more. But with just 3 (and only 2 with missed games), you can't really. You watch Peyton Watson and say, gosh, I wish we had a guy like that.... It would be nice to be developing that option for this year's playoff run. But, it feels like it's a next year thing at this point since he can't get minutes in tight regular season games even.

[playa-hater]

You call out everyone which is fair and fine by me. But I am not being Protective as you say, if it is my belief, or preference, that Queta (and/or Walsh or Peterson) should play over Kornet. The same way I had wanted D White over Smart and Brogdon in the 4th quarters and PP and Nesmith and Hauser over whoever etc.. In fact I think the only player I ever missed on was my beloved Tacko. Still have an unrealistic hope for that one.

I'm not a fan of Double Bigs in general and if a great defensive Big like Rudy Goebert can get in trouble in the playoffs at times what the hell are we doing playing a Big like Kornet (with Al together) who is far more perimeter challenged. It is a recipe that will not end well for us IMO. Boston/Joe has other choices that he needs to consider/develop. Seems like he made up his mind already and that Kornet gets the Nod. That is a philosophy I won't be changing anytime soon.

They can slow-play it with Queta and Walsh since they are both signed for several years. They both get enough burn when KP and one of JB/Hauser aren't available. Just be glad that a vet like Tillman isn't ahead of Queta in the rotation lol.

As for the double big, I don't think we'll see much of it in the postseason if team is fully healthy. It's still the top 8 taking 95% of the available non-garbage minutes.

Double big is aligned with their philosophy since last season of allowing ATB3s though as long as they're protecting the paint. The uncontested corner threes when they overhelp piss me off.

In any case, since KP came back (w/c means more double-big lineups), Cs have moved up the defensive rankings. 4th since KP's return and now 6th overall. I can't argue with the results.

If Joe isn't going to play Walsh (or to a lesser extent Springer), I don't think we really have the personnel to NOT do double big, esp when a top 8 guy is out. We've seen some White/Jrue/Pritchard lineups, but for the most part it's been more double bigs than 3 guards. I don't know if we've done much guard/JB/JT/Hauser/center lineups at all. Would be an interesting one, but Hauser being out a lot probably prevented that.

I'm obviously in the camp of play Walsh more over more double big. With JB, JT, Hauser, Walsh you can go single big more. But with just 3 (and only 2 with missed games), you can't really. You watch Peyton Watson and say, gosh, I wish we had a guy like that.... It would be nice to be developing that option for this year's playoff run. But, it feels like it's a next year thing at this point since he can't get minutes in tight regular season games even.

Speaking of Walsh, I am convinced.Had he gotten a modest 14 minutes per game, every game, the upside would have far out weighed any downside.

[Curmudgeon]

The C's were fortunate to win.

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Porzingis shot 9-18.
Supposedly he shot 7-7 in the restricted area.
That leaves 2-11 otherwise.
He shot 1-3 from 3pt range.
That leaves 1-8 otherwise.