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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 

Post#161 » by cl2117 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 10:08 am

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The plot thickens!

I think winning last season's mid season CUP has made the LA Lakers a trade destination.

Just looking at the trade machines and it feels like none of those trade destinations are realistic.

Miami are apparently very much against taking back Beal thanks to his contract and no-trade clause. Denver can't make the money work.

Clippers and Lakers could work but it's gotta be a 4/5 for 1 trade where Miami isn't really getting much value back and the LA teams are gutting depth.

PHX: Butler
LAL: Beal, Love
MIA: Reaves, Rui, Vincent, Vanderbilt, Wood and a 1st

Would the Lakers trade the significantly cheaper Reaves, plus Rui, a pick and some depth for Beal? I guess a hail mary with them floundering isn't a crazy idea.

PHX: Butler
LAC: Beal
MIA: Norm Powell, PJ Tucker, Derrick Jones Jr, Bones Hyland, Batum and a 1st

Would LAC make that move? Ballmer has the money, but they haven't even seen their team with Kawhi this year.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 

Post#162 » by cl2117 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 10:12 am

ThePigeon wrote:Orlando Robinson was waived
I always liked him when he played us in Miami and summer league

Moses Brown reincarnated.

Would take him in the Maine, but think he's an empty stats guy. He's got tools, but really low BBIQ. Box score stats will occasionally pop but think it's fool's gold. Definitely worth a flyer but wouldn't waste a roster spot or even a two-way on him.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 

Post#163 » by Dogen » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:03 pm

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ThePigeon wrote:Orlando Robinson was waived
I always liked him when he played us in Miami and summer league

Moses Brown reincarnated.

Would take him in the Maine, but think he's an empty stats guy. He's got tools, but really low BBIQ. Box score stats will occasionally pop but think it's fool's gold. Definitely worth a flyer but wouldn't waste a roster spot or even a two-way on him.



Moses Brown seems about right, but I do recall during those summer games against Miami we were like, "Why can't the Celtics get a big like that?"

Not sure if he fits our system though, or Miami's for that matter. A bit of a throwback type of big, but he deserves a chance somewhere.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 

Post#164 » by playa-hater » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:14 pm

cl2117 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Read on Twitter


The plot thickens!

I think winning last season's mid season CUP has made the LA Lakers a trade destination.

Just looking at the trade machines and it feels like none of those trade destinations are realistic.

Miami are apparently very much against taking back Beal thanks to his contract and no-trade clause. Denver can't make the money work.

Clippers and Lakers could work but it's gotta be a 4/5 for 1 trade where Miami isn't really getting much value back and the LA teams are gutting depth.

PHX: Butler
LAL: Beal, Love
MIA: Reaves, Rui, Vincent, Vanderbilt, Wood and a 1st

Would the Lakers trade the significantly cheaper Reaves, plus Rui, a pick and some depth for Beal? I guess a hail mary with them floundering isn't a crazy idea.

PHX: Butler
LAC: Beal
MIA: Norm Powell, PJ Tucker, Derrick Jones Jr, Bones Hyland, Batum and a 1st

Would LAC make that move? Ballmer has the money, but they haven't even seen their team with Kawhi this year.


I would think no one in their right mind would trade so much for Beal. Even if he can score well again, which is a Big If, he is just a bad defender for a playoff series.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 

Post#165 » by cl2117 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:26 pm

playa-hater wrote:
cl2117 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
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The plot thickens!

I think winning last season's mid season CUP has made the LA Lakers a trade destination.

Just looking at the trade machines and it feels like none of those trade destinations are realistic.

Miami are apparently very much against taking back Beal thanks to his contract and no-trade clause. Denver can't make the money work.

Clippers and Lakers could work but it's gotta be a 4/5 for 1 trade where Miami isn't really getting much value back and the LA teams are gutting depth.

PHX: Butler
LAL: Beal, Love
MIA: Reaves, Rui, Vincent, Vanderbilt, Wood and a 1st

Would the Lakers trade the significantly cheaper Reaves, plus Rui, a pick and some depth for Beal? I guess a hail mary with them floundering isn't a crazy idea.

PHX: Butler
LAC: Beal
MIA: Norm Powell, PJ Tucker, Derrick Jones Jr, Bones Hyland, Batum and a 1st

Would LAC make that move? Ballmer has the money, but they haven't even seen their team with Kawhi this year.


I would think no one in their right mind would trade so much for Beal. Even if he can score well again, which is a Big If, he is just a bad defender for a playoff series.

I can kind of see it for the Lakers. I don't think anyone has any expectations for them actually coming out of the West. Adding Beal can be a bit of a hail-mary. The AD / LeBron / Beal trio is a solid fit as well (assuming Beal can play like he did in Washington).

Depending on how stuck both Miami and Phoenix are there maybe no draft capital involved either, so could be a good deal on paper. Beal's no-trade clause is a real killer though because if he flames out he becomes an albatross that leads to LeBron walking away and them becoming a late lottery team.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 

Post#166 » by Hal14 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:48 pm

Dogen wrote:
cl2117 wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:Orlando Robinson was waived
I always liked him when he played us in Miami and summer league

Moses Brown reincarnated.

Would take him in the Maine, but think he's an empty stats guy. He's got tools, but really low BBIQ. Box score stats will occasionally pop but think it's fool's gold. Definitely worth a flyer but wouldn't waste a roster spot or even a two-way on him.



Moses Brown seems about right, but I do recall during those summer games against Miami we were like, "Why can't the Celtics get a big like that?"

Not sure if he fits our system though, or Miami's for that matter. A bit of a throwback type of big, but he deserves a chance somewhere.

One thing I'm realizing more and more is that Summer League means very little.

Robinson went undrafted. He's 24 yrs old. Usually with guys like that, the one team that can turn them into an NBA player is Miami. They no longer wanted him and the Kings don't want him either.

Pass..
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 

Post#167 » by 165bows » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:57 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Dogen wrote:
cl2117 wrote:Moses Brown reincarnated.

Would take him in the Maine, but think he's an empty stats guy. He's got tools, but really low BBIQ. Box score stats will occasionally pop but think it's fool's gold. Definitely worth a flyer but wouldn't waste a roster spot or even a two-way on him.



Moses Brown seems about right, but I do recall during those summer games against Miami we were like, "Why can't the Celtics get a big like that?"

Not sure if he fits our system though, or Miami's for that matter. A bit of a throwback type of big, but he deserves a chance somewhere.

One thing I'm realizing more and more is that Summer League means very little.

Robinson went undrafted. He's 24 yrs old. Usually with guys like that, the one team that can turn them into an NBA player is Miami. They no longer wanted him and the Kings don't want him either.

Pass..

Kornet played on five teams over parts of two years at 25-26. Odds are Robinson goes nowhere but he has a very similar career path up until now as Luke did.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 

Post#168 » by Triple M » Wed Jan 8, 2025 6:25 pm

Any chance Malik Beasley ask for a buy out
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Post#169 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Jan 8, 2025 6:32 pm

Triple M wrote:Any chance Malik Beasley ask for a buy out

I doubt it. He's a rotation player on a likely playoff team. Pistons been playing well. Well enough that they'd get into the play-in at least.
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Post#170 » by 165bows » Wed Jan 8, 2025 8:02 pm

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Triple M wrote:Any chance Malik Beasley ask for a buy out

I doubt it. He's a rotation player on a likely playoff team. Pistons been playing well. Well enough that they'd get into the play-in at least.

If Chris Boucher gets traded/bought out I think he’s a guy they have been rumored to like, plus he’s in the role that’s open on the team right now.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 

Post#171 » by 165bows » Thu Jan 9, 2025 3:50 am

Don’t look now but Daniel Thies has had a nice little surge since December.
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Post#172 » by 165bows » Thu Jan 9, 2025 1:47 pm

Jaden Springer for Daniel Thies who says no.
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Post#173 » by Larry_Russell » Thu Jan 9, 2025 2:14 pm

165bows wrote:Jaden Springer for Daniel Thies who says no.



I want to say no? only because I know that guys like Queta need some minutes to get better.

But Theis is a nice fit in that frontcourt rotation.

And of course, bring back lonnie walker.

Jrue/Pritchard
White/Lonnie
Brown/Hauser
Tatum/Horford
Porzingas/Theis/Kornet

Yeah, I like that.
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Post#174 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Jan 9, 2025 2:31 pm

Brice Sensabaugh
Talen Horton-Tucker
Torrey Craig
Javonte Green
Lonnie Walker
Kyle Filipowski
Walker Kessler
Dwight Powell
Day'Ron Sharpe
Amir Coffey
Kevin Love
Alec Burks
Nassir Little
Julian Champagnie
Daniel Theis
Keita Bates-Diop
Others

There are players out there that may be available that may provide some extra depth. It all depends how much the Celtics want to spend, what Stevens believes are weaknesses on the Celtics and who would be a fit. I trust Brad Stevens to make the right decision. My guess is maybe they move Springer for cap reasons and then sign Peterson to a regular contract. That's what I am expecting.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 

Post#175 » by Hal14 » Thu Jan 9, 2025 2:52 pm

165bows wrote:Jaden Springer for Daniel Thies who says no.

I don't know if we really need Theis. We're pretty well covered at the 5. Not positive he would get mins over any of the 5 bigs we already have.

Think if we add someone, it would be more of a 2/3 wing or perhaps a bigger wing 3/4.

New Orleans could be a good landing spot for Springer though. They're a bad team..they're tanking for a high draft pick..so he could get some good playing time there. Kind of like how last year we sent Banton to Portland and Stevens to Memphis..both bad tanking teams where they could get more playing time.

Plus, a few folks have mentioned Dyson Daniels as a guy who Springer could maybe develop into a player like that if he was given the opportunity. Well, the Pelicans traded Daniels so now they have a void on their roster for a guy like that so Springer could perhaos fill that void..
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 

Post#176 » by 165bows » Thu Jan 9, 2025 3:26 pm

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165bows wrote:Jaden Springer for Daniel Thies who says no.

I don't know if we really need Theis. We're pretty well covered at the 5. Not positive he would get mins over any of the 5 bigs we already have.

Think if we add someone, it would be more of a 2/3 wing or perhaps a bigger wing 3/4.

New Orleans could be a good landing spot for Springer though. They're a bad team..they're tanking for a high draft pick..so he could get some good playing time there. Kind of like how last year we sent Banton to Portland and Stevens to Memphis..both bad tanking teams where they could get more playing time.

Plus, a few folks have mentioned Dyson Daniels as a guy who Springer could maybe develop into a player like that if he was given the opportunity. Well, the Pelicans traded Daniels so now they have a void on their roster for a guy like that so Springer could perhaos fill that void..

Last trade deadline they stated the position they needed depth at was someone who could play both the 4 and the 5, sort of the combo big role. So they landed Tillman but I'm not sure he's really in he rotation anymore so stands to reason that with the same group, that's still the most open role on the team (as the only 4/5 type center in the rotation currently is Al).

Theis has had a .660TS% since December and is familiar with the team.
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Post#177 » by playa-hater » Thu Jan 9, 2025 3:57 pm

Just read the Rumor, The Pacers sell high on Hali and send him to SAS for Keldon Johnon, talented rookie Castle and a boat load of 1st rders. SAS wants to go all in this year and Indiana cashes out while still having a young team overall.

Don't know what will happen but I love all the smoke of trade deadlines.
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Post#178 » by Fierce1 » Thu Jan 9, 2025 4:02 pm

165bows wrote:
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165bows wrote:Jaden Springer for Daniel Thies who says no.

I don't know if we really need Theis. We're pretty well covered at the 5. Not positive he would get mins over any of the 5 bigs we already have.

Think if we add someone, it would be more of a 2/3 wing or perhaps a bigger wing 3/4.

New Orleans could be a good landing spot for Springer though. They're a bad team..they're tanking for a high draft pick..so he could get some good playing time there. Kind of like how last year we sent Banton to Portland and Stevens to Memphis..both bad tanking teams where they could get more playing time.

Plus, a few folks have mentioned Dyson Daniels as a guy who Springer could maybe develop into a player like that if he was given the opportunity. Well, the Pelicans traded Daniels so now they have a void on their roster for a guy like that so Springer could perhaos fill that void..

Last trade deadline they stated the position they needed depth at was someone who could play both the 4 and the 5, sort of the combo big role. So they landed Tillman but I'm not sure he's really in he rotation anymore so stands to reason that with the same group, that's still the most open role on the team (as the only 4/5 type center in the rotation currently is Al).

Theis has had a .660TS% since December and is familiar with the team.

An alternative to Sam is more important than adding another big.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 

Post#179 » by 165bows » Thu Jan 9, 2025 4:03 pm

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Hal14 wrote:I don't know if we really need Theis. We're pretty well covered at the 5. Not positive he would get mins over any of the 5 bigs we already have.

Think if we add someone, it would be more of a 2/3 wing or perhaps a bigger wing 3/4.

New Orleans could be a good landing spot for Springer though. They're a bad team..they're tanking for a high draft pick..so he could get some good playing time there. Kind of like how last year we sent Banton to Portland and Stevens to Memphis..both bad tanking teams where they could get more playing time.

Plus, a few folks have mentioned Dyson Daniels as a guy who Springer could maybe develop into a player like that if he was given the opportunity. Well, the Pelicans traded Daniels so now they have a void on their roster for a guy like that so Springer could perhaos fill that void..

Last trade deadline they stated the position they needed depth at was someone who could play both the 4 and the 5, sort of the combo big role. So they landed Tillman but I'm not sure he's really in he rotation anymore so stands to reason that with the same group, that's still the most open role on the team (as the only 4/5 type center in the rotation currently is Al).

Theis has had a .660TS% since December and is familiar with the team.

An alternative to Sam is more important than adding another big.

Nah Walsh is fine as a third string forward. The alternative to Sam Hauser is just more Sam Hauser.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Conversion Thread, 2024-25 

Post#180 » by Fierce1 » Thu Jan 9, 2025 4:09 pm

165bows wrote:
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165bows wrote:Last trade deadline they stated the position they needed depth at was someone who could play both the 4 and the 5, sort of the combo big role. So they landed Tillman but I'm not sure he's really in he rotation anymore so stands to reason that with the same group, that's still the most open role on the team (as the only 4/5 type center in the rotation currently is Al).

Theis has had a .660TS% since December and is familiar with the team.

An alternative to Sam is more important than adding another big.

Nah Walsh is fine as a third string forward. The alternative to Sam Hauser is just more Sam Hauser.

Cs don't have that slasher type player.

Sam and PP are having a hard time finishing on fast breaks.

Theis becoming the 6th big man will just be a case of diminishing returns.

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