2025 NBA Draft Prospects

Post #321 » by **DuckIII** » Fri Jan 3, 2025 11:30 pm

othawhitemeat wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:Kasparas’ low production in the first half was for the most part a combination of foul trouble and the fact his teammates were on fire. The game flow didn’t go his way.

But I was extremely impressed with his second half. Granted, Illinois was up big for most of it, so you could chalk up some of his numbers to garbage time, but Oregon never stopped playing hard and he just made them look silly. There were even plays where he looked explosive off the dribble, which has been my biggest concern about him.

After cooling on him somewhat after the Mizzou game, I’m hyped about how he looked in this one.

Dude is special in terms of bball IQ. Whoever drafts him - he will have some off days, but IMO, the dude is going to be special. his athleticism is not great, but he can dribble, pass, see things in advance, fights on defense, shoot well, creative, etc....

And he’s a gamer. Oozes “it” leadership factor both verbally and through actions.

Jstock12 · Post #322 » by **Jstock12** » Sun Jan 5, 2025 10:01 pm

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Chi town · Post #323 » by **Chi town** » Mon Jan 6, 2025 3:50 am

KJ with another great game today.

Kid is clutch and so darn good in crunch time.

Donkedave · Post #324 » by **Donkedave** » Mon Jan 6, 2025 10:35 am

Hey all, found this site for college stats , by the looks everything is there. still trying to learn how to drive it but worth a look.

Seems like it’s good

https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?link=y&sIndex=47&sortToggle=1&yvalue=FrSo&year=2025&c=1&start=20241101&end=20250501

JimmyButler21 · Post #325 » by **JimmyButler21** » Tue Jan 7, 2025 1:42 am

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/43314437/donovan-bulls-1st-round-pick-not-part-talks-front-office

Chicago had won three of four going into Monday night's game against San Antonio, leaving the Bulls with a 16-19 record. Chicago owes its first-round selection in the 2025 draft to San Antonio as part of the 2021 DeMar DeRozan trade, but the pick is top-10 protected.

"No one's saying to me, hey, listen, wait a second with this draft pick right now, we need to make sure, it's been always the integrity of competition and playing," Donovan said, "and I appreciate that."

While Donovan said the pick hasn't been part of his conversations with the team, he also acknowledged the location of the organization in the NBA hierarchy. The Bulls went 40-42 during the 2022-23 season and 39-43 last year.

"We don't want to be just stuck in the middle. ... Absolutely. I don't think there's any question about that," Donovan said.

"I think the building out part that we got to look at is the totality of our entire team where you're identifying guys that are going to help us maybe get out of the middle and move forward. And I do think that we do have guys on our team that, to me, emulate or model a competitiveness that I like and appreciate."

Post #326 » by **DuckIII** » Tue Jan 7, 2025 4:04 am

JimmyButler21 wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/43314437/donovan-bulls-1st-round-pick-not-part-talks-front-office
Chicago had won three of four going into Monday night's game against San Antonio, leaving the Bulls with a 16-19 record. Chicago owes its first-round selection in the 2025 draft to San Antonio as part of the 2021 DeMar DeRozan trade, but the pick is top-10 protected.

"No one's saying to me, hey, listen, wait a second with this draft pick right now, we need to make sure, it's been always the integrity of competition and playing," Donovan said, "and I appreciate that."

While Donovan said the pick hasn't been part of his conversations with the team, he also acknowledged the location of the organization in the NBA hierarchy. The Bulls went 40-42 during the 2022-23 season and 39-43 last year.

"We don't want to be just stuck in the middle. ... Absolutely. I don't think there's any question about that," Donovan said.

"I think the building out part that we got to look at is the totality of our entire team where you're identifying guys that are going to help us maybe get out of the middle and move forward. And I do think that we do have guys on our team that, to me, emulate or model a competitiveness that I like and appreciate."

Yes, it’s an admirable, though incredibly dumb, approach. We have integrity.

jnrjr79 · Post #327 » by **jnrjr79** » Tue Jan 7, 2025 4:50 am

DuckIII wrote:
JimmyButler21 wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/43314437/donovan-bulls-1st-round-pick-not-part-talks-front-office
Chicago had won three of four going into Monday night's game against San Antonio, leaving the Bulls with a 16-19 record. Chicago owes its first-round selection in the 2025 draft to San Antonio as part of the 2021 DeMar DeRozan trade, but the pick is top-10 protected.

"No one's saying to me, hey, listen, wait a second with this draft pick right now, we need to make sure, it's been always the integrity of competition and playing," Donovan said, "and I appreciate that."

While Donovan said the pick hasn't been part of his conversations with the team, he also acknowledged the location of the organization in the NBA hierarchy. The Bulls went 40-42 during the 2022-23 season and 39-43 last year.

"We don't want to be just stuck in the middle. ... Absolutely. I don't think there's any question about that," Donovan said.

"I think the building out part that we got to look at is the totality of our entire team where you're identifying guys that are going to help us maybe get out of the middle and move forward. And I do think that we do have guys on our team that, to me, emulate or model a competitiveness that I like and appreciate."

Yes, it’s an admirable, though incredibly dumb, approach. We have integrity.

It’s totally fine that Billy is playing to win and isn’t looking at the draft pick. That’s his job. It’s the job of the front office to deprive him of what he needs to do it.

Jstock12 · Post #328 » by **Jstock12** » Tue Jan 7, 2025 9:08 am

Simply a coach that's unable to see the bigger picture. Which is fine. It's not the coach's job to do so. As jnrjr79 mentioned, tanking is all on the front office.

Post #329 » by **AshyLarrysDiaper** » Tue Jan 7, 2025 1:37 pm

Jstock12 wrote:Simply a coach that's unable to see the bigger picture. Which is fine. It's not the coach's job to do so. As jnrjr79 mentioned, tanking is all on the front office.

It’s possible and probably necessary for a FO and coach to be aligned on tanking. Look at the Wizards. Sarr and Carrington wouldn’t be playing more minutes than Valanciunas and Brogdon if winning was their first priority.

I don’t consider this a Billy problem btw. It’s an organizational discipline problem.

Jcool0 · Post #330 » by **Jcool0** » Tue Jan 7, 2025 1:52 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Jstock12 wrote:Simply a coach that's unable to see the bigger picture. Which is fine. It's not the coach's job to do so. As jnrjr79 mentioned, tanking is all on the front office.

It’s possible and probably necessary for a FO and coach to be aligned on tanking. Look at the Wizards. Sarr and Carrington wouldn’t be playing more minutes than Valanciunas and Brogdon if winning was their first priority.

I don’t consider this a Billy problem btw. It’s an organizational discipline problem.

Bulls will win between 35-38 games and we have a rookie who should be averaging 10 ppg in 20+ MPG playing between 2-15 MPG. That is a problem.

sco · Post #331 » by **sco** » Tue Jan 7, 2025 7:25 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Jstock12 wrote:Simply a coach that's unable to see the bigger picture. Which is fine. It's not the coach's job to do so. As jnrjr79 mentioned, tanking is all on the front office.

It’s possible and probably necessary for a FO and coach to be aligned on tanking. Look at the Wizards. Sarr and Carrington wouldn’t be playing more minutes than Valanciunas and Brogdon if winning was their first priority.

I don’t consider this a Billy problem btw. It’s an organizational discipline problem.

Bulls will win between 35-38 games and we have a rookie who should be averaging 10 ppg in 20+ MPG playing between 2-15 MPG. That is a problem.

Yeah, I'm with you. That said, most rookies hit the wall halfway through the season. I'd have no problem with Billy's approach if he gives Matas more run down the stretch and end on a high note. Matas' offensive game isn't likely going to massively improve until he gets to the offseason and put some focused work in.

Jcool0 · Post #332 » by **Jcool0** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:03 am

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Jstock12 · Post #333 » by **Jstock12** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 1:04 pm

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I know people only like to use white comparisons for white players, but I do see some Kevin Garnett in Flagg's game. KG had a bit more length, but they do have a lot of things in common.

sco · Post #334 » by **sco** » Wed Jan 8, 2025 1:36 pm

Jstock12 wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:

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I know people only like to use white comparisons for white players, but I do see some Kevin Garnett in Flagg's game. KG had a bit more length, but they do have a lot of things in common.

That's a good comp.

Guru · Post #335 » by **Guru** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:57 am

The more I explore this draft the more I am happy to lose the pick.

Outside the top 2 players it's going to be a poor draft.

Donkedave · Post #336 » by **Donkedave** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:06 am

Guru wrote:The more I explore this draft the more I am happy to lose the pick.

Outside the top 2 players it's going to be a poor draft.

Based on what? Genuine question not having a go just trying to gauge your thoughts?

Guru · Post #337 » by **Guru** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:41 pm

Donkedave wrote:
Guru wrote:The more I explore this draft the more I am happy to lose the pick.

Outside the top 2 players it's going to be a poor draft.

Based on what? Genuine question not having a go just trying to gauge your thoughts?

I have been looking through the draft and there really aren't exciting guys beyond the first MAYBE 4. Its a mess after 4. I'd gladly give up the pick next year to retain it next. Plus it just makes sense based on the trade market.

drosestruts · Post #338 » by **drosestruts** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:32 pm

College fans - are college stats just down in general?

People want to tell me Cooper Flagg will be a great defensive prospect - but his production isn't on par with an actual great defensive prospect like Anthony Davis.

Dylan Harper is supposed to be a great scorer but his stats are nowhere near great scoring prospects like Michael Beasley or Damian Lillard

I've seen what great prospects look like. I've seen their stats too.

I keep being told this draft is great - but when comparing the production of these players, prospects in this draft routinely fall short of previous, actual great prospects.

Guru · Post #339 » by **Guru** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:59 pm

I am curious for those who want to keep the pick......we are most likely to pick maybe 6-10? Who would you want there? I just don't see a player that excites me.

I have no problem trying to get a late first for a flyer though

Rose2Boozer · Post #340 » by **Rose2Boozer** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:49 pm

Guru wrote:I am curious for those who want to keep the pick......we are most likely to pick maybe 6-10? Who would you want there? I just don't see a player that excites me.

I have no problem trying to get a late first for a flyer though

At the tenth pick, I'd probably draft Thomas Sorber center from Georgetown. He seems like the best and safest combination of all of the top prospects at the center position.

That being said, the Bulls is going to lose out on a good prospect whether it's 2025 or 2026. Personally, I like the 2025 draft due to its quality big man depth around the range the Bulls should be drafting.