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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#381 » by Jcool0 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:53 pm

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2023 Carroll led a meh Seahawks roster to a 9-8 record and Geno freakin' Smith made the Pro Bowl.


Geno Smith 2023: 20 TDs 9 INTs 92.1 QB rating 8-7 record

Geno Smith 2024: 21 TDs 15 INTs 93.2 QB rating 10-7 record


So...Geno had a slightly worse year in 2024? Ok.


Where are you getting that? He had a better year in 2024.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#382 » by Betta Bulleavit » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:18 pm

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Geno Smith 2023: 20 TDs 9 INTs 92.1 QB rating 8-7 record

Geno Smith 2024: 21 TDs 15 INTs 93.2 QB rating 10-7 record


So...Geno had a slightly worse year in 2024? Ok.


Where are you getting that? He had a better year in 2024.

This is true. But Smith having a better year in 24 than he did in 23 doesn’t mean that Carroll is washed. His resurgence came under Carroll. But I get it. You’re not a Carroll fan. I just happen to think that he’d bring forth the right thing for this particular team.
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Post#383 » by jnrjr79 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:18 pm

Your own data shows it:

2023: 1.3 TD/game, .6 INT/game
2024: 1.23 TD/game, .88 INT/game

Also:

QBR 2023: 60.3
QBR 2024: 53.8

Sacks taken 2023: 31 (2.07/game)
Sacks taken 2024: 50 (2.94/game)

He threw for 13 yards/game more in 2024. I guess that's something.

You're also omitting his breakout year in 2022, which was his best statistical season (and still under the Carroll regime), when he earned Comeback Player of the Year.

He made the Pro Bowl outright in 2022 and 2023. He did not make the Pro Bowl in 2024, but did end up participating as Stafford's replacement.

Better year in 2024? If you say so!
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So...Geno had a slightly worse year in 2024? Ok.


Where are you getting that? He had a better year in 2024.

This is true. But Smith having a better year in 24 than he did in 23 doesn’t mean that Carroll is washed. His resurgence came under Carroll. But I get it. You’re not a Carroll fan. I just happen to think that he’d bring forth the right thing for this particular team.


His resurgence came under Shane Waldron who Carroll was going to fire and Dave Canales the QB coach in 2022 who is now the Panthers head coach. Carroll is a defensive coach CEO type he lets his coordinators do there thing. What Carroll was known for defense, hasn't been good in 8 years. So his upside based on his last years in Seattle is a .500 coach and since he will be 74 to start the season (which would make him the oldest coach in NFL history beating George Halas at 72 and Romeo Crennel at 73) so you are looking to also hire his successor. Gus Bradley is available, does that work for you?
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#386 » by jnrjr79 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:02 pm

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Where are you getting that? He had a better year in 2024.

This is true. But Smith having a better year in 24 than he did in 23 doesn’t mean that Carroll is washed. His resurgence came under Carroll. But I get it. You’re not a Carroll fan. I just happen to think that he’d bring forth the right thing for this particular team.


His resurgence came under Shane Waldron who Carroll was going to fire and Dave Canales the QB coach in 2022 who is now the Panthers head coach. Carroll is a defensive coach CEO type he lets his coordinators do there thing. What Carroll was known for defense, hasn't been good in 8 years. So his upside based on his last years in Seattle is a .500 coach and since he will be 74 to start the season (which would make him the oldest coach in NFL history beating George Halas at 72 and Romeo Crennel at 73) so you are looking to also hire his successor. Gus Bradley is available, does that work for you?


Glad to see you agree Geno did not perform better after Carroll's departure.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#387 » by Jcool0 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:08 pm

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Betta Bulleavit wrote:This is true. But Smith having a better year in 24 than he did in 23 doesn’t mean that Carroll is washed. His resurgence came under Carroll. But I get it. You’re not a Carroll fan. I just happen to think that he’d bring forth the right thing for this particular team.


His resurgence came under Shane Waldron who Carroll was going to fire and Dave Canales the QB coach in 2022 who is now the Panthers head coach. Carroll is a defensive coach CEO type he lets his coordinators do there thing. What Carroll was known for defense, hasn't been good in 8 years. So his upside based on his last years in Seattle is a .500 coach and since he will be 74 to start the season (which would make him the oldest coach in NFL history beating George Halas at 72 and Romeo Crennel at 73) so you are looking to also hire his successor. Gus Bradley is available, does that work for you?


Glad to see you agree Geno did not perform better after Carroll's departure.


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Post#388 » by fleet » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:22 pm

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Spytek is the best talent available I hear from one Raiders beat guy.
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Post#389 » by Jcool0 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:35 pm

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Spytek is the best talent available I hear from one Raiders beat guy.


GMs are so hard to predict who will be good. You just done know until they are on the job. So much luck involved in the draft. Everyone says Chris Ballard is the best but he cant seem to figure out the QB position and was almost fired this off season. For my 49ers John Lynch has done a good job and he had no experience doing it before.
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Post#390 » by biggestbullsfan » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:40 pm

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Spytek is the best talent available I hear from one Raiders beat guy.


GMs are so hard to predict who will be good. You just done know until they are on the job. So much luck involved in the draft. Everyone says Chris Ballard is the best but he cant seem to figure out the QB position and was almost fired this off season. For my 49ers John Lynch has done a good job and he had no experience doing it before.


Ian was a finalist for the Titans job a few years ago. I feel like he has to be in the top two choices given he’s made it past the first round.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#391 » by biggestbullsfan » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:40 pm

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Spytek is the best talent available I hear from one Raiders beat guy.


GMs are so hard to predict who will be good. You just done know until they are on the job. So much luck involved in the draft. Everyone says Chris Ballard is the best but he cant seem to figure out the QB position and was almost fired this off season. For my 49ers John Lynch has done a good job and he had no experience doing it before.


Ian was a finalist for the Titans job a few years ago. I feel like he has to be in the top two choices given he’s made it past the first round.
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Post#392 » by fleet » Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:48 am

Hodge and Jahns: ‘You begin to hear it in national reports…Does the Bears interview process appear laughable nationally? Maybe’

The Bears are still the different, weird kid down the block. And they don’t want to change that. If the Bears strike out on the top names, we will know why it happened, and how avoidable it would have been.


Over/under on 24 interview candidates? I think 30 is in play

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Post#394 » by Betta Bulleavit » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:10 am

fleet wrote:Hodge and Jahns: ‘You begin to hear it in national reports…Does the Bears interview process appear laughable nationally? Maybe’

The Bears are still the different, weird kid down the block. And they don’t want to change that. If the Bears strike out on the top names, we will know why it happened, and how avoidable it would have been.

Over/under on 24 interview candidates? I think 30 is in play

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So, because they are interviewing more candidates than most people think they should, the process is laughable? I mean, besides the number of candidates that they are interviewing, what are they really doing that’s all that different? We came into the office season with 6 openings. One got filled and another one (Dallas) just opened up. It’s not like all the top candidates are flying off the shelves right now.
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Post#395 » by fleet » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:15 am

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fleet wrote:Hodge and Jahns: ‘You begin to hear it in national reports…Does the Bears interview process appear laughable nationally? Maybe’

The Bears are still the different, weird kid down the block. And they don’t want to change that. If the Bears strike out on the top names, we will know why it happened, and how avoidable it would have been.

Over/under on 24 interview candidates? I think 30 is in play

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So, because they are interviewing more candidates than most people think they should, the process is laughable? I mean, besides the number of candidates that they are interviewing, what are they really doing that’s all that different? We came into the office season with 6 openings. One got filled and another one (Dallas) just opened up. It’s not like all the top candidates are flying off the shelves right now.

There’s a perception out there that they appear outwardly like they don’t know what they are doing, or looking for. They interview over a dozen OC candidates, and come up with Shane Waldron. They bring everyone in the NFL for their HC process, and it begins to be a chuckle nationally. They neglect to bring in all the top quarterbacks during the last draft, and come up with the worst one so far. Everything they do is wrong. All of the sudden being different is supposed to serve them well. Ok.
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Post#396 » by Dresden » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:26 am

Looks like the Vikes might be the first upset of the playoffs.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#397 » by Betta Bulleavit » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:29 am

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fleet wrote:Hodge and Jahns: ‘You begin to hear it in national reports…Does the Bears interview process appear laughable nationally? Maybe’

The Bears are still the different, weird kid down the block. And they don’t want to change that. If the Bears strike out on the top names, we will know why it happened, and how avoidable it would have been.

Over/under on 24 interview candidates? I think 30 is in play

Read on Twitter

So, because they are interviewing more candidates than most people think they should, the process is laughable? I mean, besides the number of candidates that they are interviewing, what are they really doing that’s all that different? We came into the office season with 6 openings. One got filled and another one (Dallas) just opened up. It’s not like all the top candidates are flying off the shelves right now.

There’s a perception out there that they appear outwardly like they don’t know what they are doing, or looking for. They interview over a dozen OC candidates, and come up with Shane Waldron. They bring everyone in the NFL for their HC process, and it begins to be a chuckle nationally. They neglect to bring in all the top quarterbacks during the last draft, and come up with the worst one so far. Everything they do is wrong. All of the sudden being different is supposed to serve them well. Ok.


Fleet, half of the things that you just mentioned don’t have anything to do with this particular search. It’s just another airing of personal grievances which you continue to do (Mike Brown alert)…..

Over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over….well, you get the point.

We understand your position. But it’s as if you’re willing it to happen a certain way just to be right. Why not just sit back and let it play out?? If you’re that confident that they are going to screw this up, just chill and let it happen. I promise you. I’ll eat the crow. I crap you not.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#398 » by Dresden » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:34 am

Betta Bulleavit wrote:
fleet wrote:Hodge and Jahns: ‘You begin to hear it in national reports…Does the Bears interview process appear laughable nationally? Maybe’

The Bears are still the different, weird kid down the block. And they don’t want to change that. If the Bears strike out on the top names, we will know why it happened, and how avoidable it would have been.

Over/under on 24 interview candidates? I think 30 is in play

Read on Twitter

So, because they are interviewing more candidates than most people think they should, the process is laughable? I mean, besides the number of candidates that they are interviewing, what are they really doing that’s all that different? We came into the office season with 6 openings. One got filled and another one (Dallas) just opened up. It’s not like all the top candidates are flying off the shelves right now.


The Bears just have to tune out all the negative Nellies and go about their business. Until they find some success on the field, the media and fans are going to continue to mock them and portray them as bumbling idiots.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#399 » by fleet » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:35 am

Betta Bulleavit wrote:
fleet wrote:
Betta Bulleavit wrote:So, because they are interviewing more candidates than most people think they should, the process is laughable? I mean, besides the number of candidates that they are interviewing, what are they really doing that’s all that different? We came into the office season with 6 openings. One got filled and another one (Dallas) just opened up. It’s not like all the top candidates are flying off the shelves right now.

There’s a perception out there that they appear outwardly like they don’t know what they are doing, or looking for. They interview over a dozen OC candidates, and come up with Shane Waldron. They bring everyone in the NFL for their HC process, and it begins to be a chuckle nationally. They neglect to bring in all the top quarterbacks during the last draft, and come up with the worst one so far. Everything they do is wrong. All of the sudden being different is supposed to serve them well. Ok.


Fleet, half of the things that you just mentioned don’t have anything to do with this particular search. It’s just another airing of personal grievances which you continue to do (Mike Brown alert)…..

Over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over….well, you get the point.

We understand your position. But it’s as if you’re willing it to happen a certain way just to be right. Why not just sit back and let it play out?? If you’re that confident that they are going to screw this up, just chill and let it happen. I promise you. I’ll eat the crow. I crap you not.

I’m tired of you **** talking people you disagree with. It’s getting to the point where you haven’t gained from incidents past, and I wonder what it’s gonna take for you to be civil in this thread. Play it out? You’ve been defending the Bears shenanigans for the better part of 10 years. I have consistently called it out. I was proven right. You, wrong. And you talk to me like I am the crazy one. Anyway, stop.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#400 » by Betta Bulleavit » Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:05 am

Dresden wrote:
Betta Bulleavit wrote:
fleet wrote:Hodge and Jahns: ‘You begin to hear it in national reports…Does the Bears interview process appear laughable nationally? Maybe’

The Bears are still the different, weird kid down the block. And they don’t want to change that. If the Bears strike out on the top names, we will know why it happened, and how avoidable it would have been.

Over/under on 24 interview candidates? I think 30 is in play

Read on Twitter

So, because they are interviewing more candidates than most people think they should, the process is laughable? I mean, besides the number of candidates that they are interviewing, what are they really doing that’s all that different? We came into the office season with 6 openings. One got filled and another one (Dallas) just opened up. It’s not like all the top candidates are flying off the shelves right now.


The Bears just have to tune out all the negative Nellies and go about their business. Until they find some success on the field, the media and fans are going to continue to mock them and portray them as bumbling idiots.

Agreed and I was saying this same thing last week. The Bears have not gotten a coaching hire right in almost 20 years. So the general perception is that they will find a way to screw this up and the first step towards not doing that is to tune out the noise and just focus on hiring the candidate that they believe in….even if it’s not the most popular choice.

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