Look at the last 6 years of Giannis Antetokounmpo he's never finished outside the top 4 in MVP voting. Tatum has yet to crack top 3. Giannis probably gets another top 3-5 vote for MVP and he's putting up 32/12/6/1/2 those are insane numbers without a 3 point shot and being a good free throw shooter. If Giannis gets to 3+ threes a game and 75% free throw it's over he's the best player in the league. Tatum is very good but he doesn't have the killer instinct Giannis hasesvl wrote:Tatum’s 5 years contract is somehow worse that 2 years of Doncic and 3 years of Giannis
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Mr Swagtastic wrote:Look at the last 6 years of Giannis Antetokounmpo he's never finished outside the top 4 in MVP voting. Tatum has yet to crack top 3. Giannis probably gets another top 3-5 vote for MVP and he's putting up 32/12/6/1/2 those are insane numbers without a 3 point shot and being a good free throw shooter. If Giannis gets to 3+ threes a game and 75% free throw it's over he's the best player in the league. Tatum is very good but he doesn't have the killer instinct Giannis hasesvl wrote:Tatum’s 5 years contract is somehow worse that 2 years of Doncic and 3 years of Giannis
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Might be easily true should we compare same term contracts. We do not, as fas as I am concerned. Luka can easily quit your team after 2 years, Giannis after 3. How would you then value them against each 3d, 4th, 5th contract year of Tatum?
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esvl wrote:Mr Swagtastic wrote:Look at the last 6 years of Giannis Antetokounmpo he's never finished outside the top 4 in MVP voting. Tatum has yet to crack top 3. Giannis probably gets another top 3-5 vote for MVP and he's putting up 32/12/6/1/2 those are insane numbers without a 3 point shot and being a good free throw shooter. If Giannis gets to 3+ threes a game and 75% free throw it's over he's the best player in the league. Tatum is very good but he doesn't have the killer instinct Giannis hasesvl wrote:Tatum’s 5 years contract is somehow worse that 2 years of Doncic and 3 years of Giannis
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Might be easily true should we compare same term contracts. We do not, as fas as I am concerned. Luka can easily quit your team after 2 years, Giannis after 3. How would you then value them against each 3d, 4th, 5th contract year of Tatum?
I think both are fair points. Giannis is a better player than Tatum but older and makes more per year on a shorter contract. Tatum has 5.5 years left under contract. This year he is 15 million cheaper than Giannis, and roughly 4 million cheaper for the next 3. After that Giannis is a FA and is likely upwards of 10 million more per year than Tatum.
As far as valuing the contracts I have them pretty close.
Luka is younger and arguably better than Tatum, but less available and only two years under contract. He will be a super max making significantly more than Tatum after that.
I’d value Luka’s contract a bit lower.
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MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Not to clog the thread but I have Giannis, Tatum, and Luka relatively close in value, but still with a current clear order.
But I have a big drop off after that as we go from the proven star category to the players with potential or a step down in talent/favorable contracts.
For sure. This top 6 was obvious af, then it gets more interesting.
I had Wemby-Jokic-SGA-Giannis-Luka-Tatum, but this is close enough.

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