Butler to Suns, Beal to Orlando, Brown & Brogdon to Miami

[SkyHook]

Miami passes.

Brogdon just isn't that good. I don't see him as being a help, and a very late first just doesn't cut it.

Flip Brogdon, Brown, & the picks to Utah for Collins & Sexton? Those two have been discussed to Miami plenty of times; useful players for competing this season, no money past next season.

Utah tanks harder, but the deal doesn't work without draft compensation coming their way.

[BBallFreak]

Miami passes.

Brogdon just isn't that good. I don't see him as being a help, and a very late first just doesn't cut it.

Flip Brogdon, Brown, & the picks to Utah for Collins & Sexton? Those two have been discussed to Miami plenty of times; useful players for competing this season, no money past next season.

Utah tanks harder, but the deal doesn't work without draft compensation coming their way.

Yeah, I'm completely fine with that

[SkyHook]

Miami passes.

Brogdon just isn't that good. I don't see him as being a help, and a very late first just doesn't cut it.

Flip Brogdon, Brown, & the picks to Utah for Collins & Sexton? Those two have been discussed to Miami plenty of times; useful players for competing this season, no money past next season.

Utah tanks harder, but the deal doesn't work without draft compensation coming their way.

Yeah, I'm completely fine with that

And just for the fun of the Jazz immediately getting one of the three picks back.

[SA37]

Miami passes.

Brogdon just isn't that good. I don't see him as being a help, and a very late first just doesn't cut it.

Flip Brogdon, Brown, & the picks to Utah for Collins & Sexton? Those two have been discussed to Miami plenty of times; useful players for competing this season, no money past next season.

Utah tanks harder, but the deal doesn't work without draft compensation coming their way.

I'm not sure Ainge gives these guys away to Riley for cap relief and pretty meh picks. My guess is Miami would prefer to move Rozier rather than Brogdon or Brown if Sexton were coming in. Perhaps you'd need a 3rd team to take Collins + Brown and/or Brogdon.

Maybe something like:

Miami gets J Randle and C Sexton
Minnesota gets J Collins
Utah gets Rozier, Brown and the picks

[BBallFreak]

Miami passes.

Brogdon just isn't that good. I don't see him as being a help, and a very late first just doesn't cut it.

Flip Brogdon, Brown, & the picks to Utah for Collins & Sexton? Those two have been discussed to Miami plenty of times; useful players for competing this season, no money past next season.

Utah tanks harder, but the deal doesn't work without draft compensation coming their way.

I'm not sure Ainge gives these guys away to Riley for cap relief and pretty meh picks. My guess is Miami would prefer to move Rozier rather than Brogdon or Brown if Sexton were coming in. Perhaps you'd need a 3rd team to take Collins + Brown and/or Brogdon.

Maybe something like:

Miami gets J Randle and C Sexton
Minnesota gets J Collins
Utah gets Rozier, Brown and the picks

Pretty sure Minnesota would require picks, too.

[SA37]

Flip Brogdon, Brown, & the picks to Utah for Collins & Sexton? Those two have been discussed to Miami plenty of times; useful players for competing this season, no money past next season.

Utah tanks harder, but the deal doesn't work without draft compensation coming their way.

I'm not sure Ainge gives these guys away to Riley for cap relief and pretty meh picks. My guess is Miami would prefer to move Rozier rather than Brogdon or Brown if Sexton were coming in. Perhaps you'd need a 3rd team to take Collins + Brown and/or Brogdon.

Maybe something like:

Miami gets J Randle and C Sexton
Minnesota gets J Collins
Utah gets Rozier, Brown and the picks

Pretty sure Minnesota would require picks, too.

Not sure. Minnesota saves some ~$6-7 million in total and ~$4-$5 million next year, Randle is having his worst season in a long, long time -- Collins is arguably having a better season (19-7-4 on 47-33-81 v 18-8-2 on 53-44-86) -- and Randle clearly doesn't fit in Minnesota.

In fairness, this would be trading Randle at the worst time -- and possibly the best time for Collins -- but my feeling is Minnesota would be happy to move on and see if Collins is a better fit, especially since Collins only has a year left on his deal after this year.

I mean, I'd rather Miami keep Collins in this scenario, but I know Riley has wanted Randle in the past.

[BBallFreak]

I'm not sure Ainge gives these guys away to Riley for cap relief and pretty meh picks. My guess is Miami would prefer to move Rozier rather than Brogdon or Brown if Sexton were coming in. Perhaps you'd need a 3rd team to take Collins + Brown and/or Brogdon.

Maybe something like:

Miami gets J Randle and C Sexton
Minnesota gets J Collins
Utah gets Rozier, Brown and the picks

Pretty sure Minnesota would require picks, too.

Not sure. Minnesota saves some ~$6-7 million in total and ~$4-$5 million next year, Randle is having his worst season in a long, long time -- Collins is arguably having a better season (19-7-4 on 47-33-81 v 18-8-2 on 53-44-86) -- and Randle clearly doesn't fit in Minnesota.

In fairness, this would be trading Randle at the worst time -- and possibly the best time for Collins -- but my feeling is Minnesota would be happy to move on and see if Collins is a better fit, especially since Collins only has a year left on his deal after this year.

I mean, I'd rather Miami keep Collins in this scenario, but I know Riley has wanted Randle in the past.

You may be right but I don't think so. I believe they're owed some compensation as Randle is clearly the superior player, and I'm saying this as an avowed Randle hater.

[shrink]

Pretty sure Minnesota would require picks, too.

Not sure. Minnesota saves some ~$6-7 million in total and ~$4-$5 million next year, Randle is having his worst season in a long, long time -- Collins is arguably having a better season (19-7-4 on 47-33-81 v 18-8-2 on 53-44-86) -- and Randle clearly doesn't fit in Minnesota.

In fairness, this would be trading Randle at the worst time -- and possibly the best time for Collins -- but my feeling is Minnesota would be happy to move on and see if Collins is a better fit, especially since Collins only has a year left on his deal after this year.

I mean, I'd rather Miami keep Collins in this scenario, but I know Riley has wanted Randle in the past.

You may be right but I don't think so. I believe they're owed some compensation as Randle is clearly the superior player, and I'm saying this as an avowed Randle hater.

I think you’re right. If not picks, a useful player in the $6.4 mil salary difference between Randle and Collins.

After what seems like half a decade of people trying to trade John Collins to MIN, these days I don’t mind him as the basis of a trade. He’s having the best season of his life in Utah and maybe that would continue on the Wolves, and he can play a little small-ball five, which the Wolves need. However the “Randle doesn’t fit” argument is disappearing as he learns to play with the team. Finch said from the start Randle would be asked to do a lot of things in MIN that he hadn’t done before. Finch lately is playing him more with the faster second unit (Naz, NAW, used to be DDV), and that’s unlocked him some. MIN definitely needs his passing and playmaking, and of course, he has shown he can be an All NBA player. Twice. And both Randle and Collins have player options to consider.

I’m not trying to be a wet blanket here, and I think spinning Collins through MIN for Randle may have some legs. But I don’t think MIN can do it straight up.