Tired of pretending Jimmy doesn't make the Suns instant contenders

[mkot]

Playoff Jimmy exists and if he is healthy for the postseason, he definitely makes them contenders.

So we went all-in to be a very dangerous play-in team. **** yeah?

If you refuse to be optimistic about your team's chances, that's your prerogative and I have no incentive to stop you. Just stating my opinion on the matter.

Just being a realist. Jimmy defense and leadership will help a lot but him alone won't fix our soft defense and rebounding. We are so bad we have to rely on Nic Richards to be our starting 5.

And to add salt to the wound, by 2031 KD and Jimmy will be gone and Book would be 35 and most likely gone. That pick is our most valuable asset going forward into rebuilding.

[JustBuzzin]

Butler scorer
KD scorer
Booker scorer


What could go wrong...


That team needs a point guard. Your 3 best players all need the ball. Nobody is facilitating to those guys.

Maybe if they got CP3 in the buyout I can see this working, but they steal have the same issues they have with Beal. Butler is not the right player for the Suns.

Have you been living under a rock? Tyus and Monte are on this team you dummy.

The fact that you think Tyus and Monte are real difference maker pgs is hilarious. Please don't call other posters dumb k.

[DaGawd]

Butler scorer
KD scorer
Booker scorer


What could go wrong...


That team needs a point guard. Your 3 best players all need the ball. Nobody is facilitating to those guys.

Maybe if they got CP3 in the buyout I can see this working, but they steal have the same issues they have with Beal. Butler is not the right player for the Suns.

cp3?? the all geriatric team
cp0 is a sure fire way to make sure you win no chips

[DusterBuster]

He won’t.

[SkyBill40]

Narrator: He doesn't

(Works best in Ron Howards voice)

I was thinking Morgan Freeman or perhaps Matthew McConaughey, but Opie will do.

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[bledredwine]

Yesssss another bumpable thread.


I love these!

[HMFFL]

Phoenix must stop paying players superstar money when they're not a superstar. Bradley Beal and Devin Booker aren't superstars; neither is Jimmy Butler.

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[MadNESS]

Assuming no other deals:

Other than Bradley Beal outgoing and picks

Tyus Jones / Monte Morris
Devin Booker / Grayson Allen
Jimmy Butler / Ryan Dunn
Kevin Durant / Royce O’Neale
Nick Richards / Jusuf Nurkic? Mason Plumlee?

Light on the front line, and point, but they contend in the playoffs. Who knows though?

[nomansland]

I was just thinking about the Suns over the past few years.

- WCF appearance
- "We can make it better", get Durant
- Durant gets hurt, "team just needs time to gel"
- 2nd round exit
- "We can make it better", get Beal

Does that sound about right?

Next it's gonna be:

- get Butler
- 1st round exit
- "team just needs time to gel"...

[Stix]

I was just thinking about the Suns over the past few years.

- WCF appearance
- "We can make it better", get Durant
- Durant gets hurt, "team just needs time to gel"
- 2nd round exit
- "We can make it better", get Beal

Does that sound about right?

Next it's gonna be:

- get Butler
- 1st round exit
- "team just needs time to gel"...

u forgot the first round sweep from last year and "need time to gel" was the excuse also

[NoStatsGuy]

i dont think they would be instant contenders. but there is no doubt, jimmy fits a lot better and stuffs some of these holes.

[cgf]

Assuming no other deals:

Other than Bradley Beal outgoing and picks

Tyus Jones / Monte Morris
Devin Booker / Grayson Allen
Jimmy Butler / Ryan Dunn
Kevin Durant / Royce O’Neale
Nick Richards / Jusuf Nurkic? Mason Plumlee?

Light on the front line, and point, but they contend in the playoffs. Who knows though?

That team would actually be good in 2018 or 2019. Sucks for them that it's 2025. But the top of the west is weak, so who knows what the playoffs will bring if they can avoid OKC

[Exp0sed]

if Richards can keep playing like that, they'd have a shot with Butler. "instant condender" is a bit of a stretch but they'll have a puncher's chance and that's all they can ask for honestly

with that said, a Butler trade would be very complex to execute. i'm still not sure which teams they can make it work it and it basically hinges upon Beal waving his NTC to go to the Bucks (for Middelton and fillers), i'm not sure he'd do that but I guess they some indication that he would, otherwise they wouldn't have traded that 2031 pick

[Optms]

KD and Booker aren't leaders. Its gonna take more than Jimmy to carry those two frauds.

[mcmurphy]

playmaking... the unknow word

[liquidswords]

Remind me how Jimmy has performed/elevated when he has other alphas on the team?

Miami is different because he is the clear #1.

[God Squad]

I was a Phoenix believer when the KD trade went down. But after the Beal trade and seeing KD/Booker on the floor together, I'm out on them being legit contenders.

Their assets are dwindling and I personally don't believe Jimmy is the answer.

[deck]

Super teams based on a big three without a supporting cast are no longer viable. You need to win your bench minutes in today's NBA. Butler is much better than Beal, but do the Suns have enough depth to compete, especially after they send out whatever else is needed to make this trade work?

[SkyBill40]

I'd rather have two "stars" and several upper tier supporting players than three big names taking up nearly all the available cap as is the situation at present (and likely will continue into the future). That Beal acquisition killed us and getting Butler is like swapping out a band-aid for an already bloody one, which is covering a wound that isn't going to be remedied by such a simple fix. It's a stopgap measure at best and a downright bad idea at the worst.

[Daddy 801]

If they add Butler and 2-3 other good role players they could get much better.