Anthony Edwards Thread: Part Two (Read First Post)

[FrenchMinnyFan]

I understand your point of view. On the other hand, was KAT the piece who will allowed us to win a title? Probably not. What is frustrating is what we got for KAT trade, not the fact of trading KAT. We would have trade KAT for Markkanen or another good player, things would have been different. Randle is clearly far from KAT production specially in defense and DDV have too many up and down.
Hopefully TC fix it before the deadline.

To me, it's a combination of the two.

To this day, I'm befuddled as to why the team wasn't given the chance to run it back. Even if the first half of the season didn't go as planned, that trade with New York is very likely to be on the table at the deadline.

But yes, the inclusion of Randle soured the deal from the jump.

The Knicks only upped their offer because of the Robinson injury. If he is healthy, the trade is off the table.

Yes totally true. But i'm pretty sure TC would have try to trade KAT to another team.

[frankenwolf]

To me, it's a combination of the two.

To this day, I'm befuddled as to why the team wasn't given the chance to run it back. Even if the first half of the season didn't go as planned, that trade with New York is very likely to be on the table at the deadline.

But yes, the inclusion of Randle soured the deal from the jump.

The Knicks only upped their offer because of the Robinson injury. If he is healthy, the trade is off the table.

Yes totally true. But i'm pretty sure TC would have try to trade KAT to another team.

Nope, I disagree. The Knicks might not have been as pressured to make that trade (with Robinson healthy), but I think it would have been dangled to the Wolves as it seems the Knicks really wanted KAT and it seems like Robinson would have gone down sometime this season, then there would have been more pressure on NY to do the trade. Not sure how many other teams were interested in KAT (beside NOP)

[Loaf_of_bread]

Put on a t-shirt during post game interviews. Stop airing dirty laundry. Stop being jovial. Stop talking so much postgame.

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[TimberKat]

During DEN game, ESPN mentioned that Ant seek out Michael Jordan to talk about how to deal with constant double team defense. I bet MJ show him this video: https://youtu.be/NgblTQV43lQ?si=TQeObWPg03IGka14

Good thing he didn't seek out Gilbert Arenas or JR Smith for advice.

[shrink]

During DEN game, ESPN mentioned that Ant seek out Michael Jordan to talk about how to deal with constant double team defense.

Great to hear!

I think Ant’s pathway to greatness isn’t just his jaw-dropping athleticism. It’s combining it with his desire to be great by asking questions. I loved how he was constantly asking Rubio,Pat Bev and Conley how to be better. At the Olympics, he was constantly questioning his superstar teammates about everything, from three pointers shooting footwork to LeBron’s off court preparations. He studied Tim Duncan videos to improve his footwork in the post. He asked freakin’ Luka Garza how to do that slow-step!

I’m sure getting advice from Jordan is the highest of bars, but Ant will talk to anyone if they can improve his game. It’s very rare to see a 23 year old that is wise enough to ask questions, and even rarer when everyone tells that 23 year old what a stud he is - for him to just shut up and listen. To me, this is what gives Ant the chance to become a HOF player.

[Loaf_of_bread]

During DEN game, ESPN mentioned that Ant seek out Michael Jordan to talk about how to deal with constant double team defense.

Great to hear!

I think Ant’s pathway to greatness isn’t just his jaw-dropping athleticism. It’s combining it with his desire to be great by asking questions. I loved how he was constantly asking Rubio,Pat Bev and Conley how to be better. At the Olympics, he was constantly questioning his superstar teammates about everything, from three pointers shooting footwork to LeBron’s off court preparations. He studied Tim Duncan videos to improve his footwork in the post. He asked freakin’ Luka Garza how to do that slow-step!

I’m sure getting advice from Jordan is the highest of bars, but Ant will talk to anyone if they can improve his game. It’s very rare to see a 23 year old that is wise enough to ask questions, and even rarer when everyone tells that 23 year old what a stud he is - for him to just shut up and listen. To me, this is what gives Ant the chance to become a HOF player.

I remember from the olympics that ant was self proclaiming himself as the no. 1 on the team. Doesn't quite seem like a guy willing to "shut up and listen".

[TheZachAttack]

I have called a couple of Edwards "leaps" prior to them happening. I have also been somewhat critical of Edwards this season (although more-so about the structure around him), but I think he's taking the leap. He's started to play at his own pace and get into the middle of the floor a lot more on his drives. I believe that in order to take the next step in his game, this is really what he needs to unlock. This is what unlocks his ability to beat a lot of the coverages he is facing, become a more consistent playmaker, and more consistently get to the free throw line.

The main problem for Edwards is that he has struggled with a consistent floater/mid range game. The majority of his mid range shots were situations in which he was trying to out athleticism his way to the rim and stopped and then trying to react on the fly and make tough shots. One of the things that has unlocked Ant's 3 point shooting is the combination of dribble moves he has to get himself into rhythm and to spots on the floor that basically make them practice shots for him even if they look tough.

Edwards has been really willing to get into the middle of the floor without trying to beat the defense to the rim. He's been really willing to pin his defender on his hip and let the angles develop as Rudy rolls to the rim. This has also set up for him getting into that mid range or floater range with a lot more control and gets him into spaces where he can intentionally get to spots on the floor and make shots more like practice shots.

This is also the unlock that helps a player get to the FT line. I'm not sure if I think it should be this way, but the way you get to the line consistently is by making defenders start to react to you and then drawing contact. When Ant is flying 100mph around and through players and there's a lot of contact he's not making defenses react to him and refs usually consider that a player contesting in the space he has a right to occupy. When Ant, is creating advantages by making defenses start to react to him he can then draw the foul and get guys to reach and swipe.

Playing at this pace and with this patience also allows Edwards to more easily find the lob pass and the corner 3 pass and creates time and space for angles and cutters and passes to open up.

If Ant can continue to do this consistently and pair that with his 3 point shot... this is how Edwards gets to the next level as a player who controls and dominates the game and not just a player who scores a lot. To me, if this leap in this area is real this is how Edwards becomes a 28-30+ point - 5-6 assist - 5-6 rebound per game guy. I think we may look back at Edwards stats starting in January and see a player who averaged a stat line like this

[shrink]

During DEN game, ESPN mentioned that Ant seek out Michael Jordan to talk about how to deal with constant double team defense.

Great to hear!

I think Ant’s pathway to greatness isn’t just his jaw-dropping athleticism. It’s combining it with his desire to be great by asking questions. I loved how he was constantly asking Rubio,Pat Bev and Conley how to be better. At the Olympics, he was constantly questioning his superstar teammates about everything, from three pointers shooting footwork to LeBron’s off court preparations. He studied Tim Duncan videos to improve his footwork in the post. He asked freakin’ Luka Garza how to do that slow-step!

I’m sure getting advice from Jordan is the highest of bars, but Ant will talk to anyone if they can improve his game. It’s very rare to see a 23 year old that is wise enough to ask questions, and even rarer when everyone tells that 23 year old what a stud he is - for him to just shut up and listen. To me, this is what gives Ant the chance to become a HOF player.

I remember from the olympics that ant was self proclaiming himself as the no. 1 on the team. Doesn't quite seem like a guy willing to "shut up and listen".

I think Ant plays a character when the lights go up and the media asks him questions. I think he likes attention, he thinks it’s fun, but he doesn't really give a crap what he says. So no, I don’t think he “Swims like Phelps” or thinks he’s the #1 on a team with his heroes like LeBron, KD and Steph. But he knows the media will eat it up, and that amuses him.

[Loaf_of_bread]

Great to hear!

I think Ant’s pathway to greatness isn’t just his jaw-dropping athleticism. It’s combining it with his desire to be great by asking questions. I loved how he was constantly asking Rubio,Pat Bev and Conley how to be better. At the Olympics, he was constantly questioning his superstar teammates about everything, from three pointers shooting footwork to LeBron’s off court preparations. He studied Tim Duncan videos to improve his footwork in the post. He asked freakin’ Luka Garza how to do that slow-step!

I’m sure getting advice from Jordan is the highest of bars, but Ant will talk to anyone if they can improve his game. It’s very rare to see a 23 year old that is wise enough to ask questions, and even rarer when everyone tells that 23 year old what a stud he is - for him to just shut up and listen. To me, this is what gives Ant the chance to become a HOF player.

I remember from the olympics that ant was self proclaiming himself as the no. 1 on the team. Doesn't quite seem like a guy willing to "shut up and listen".

I think Ant plays a character when the lights go up and the media asks him questions. I think he likes attention, he thinks it’s fun, but he doesn't really give a crap what he says. So no, I don’t think he “Swims like Phelps” or thinks he’s the #1 on a team with his heroes like LeBron, KD and Steph. But he knows the media will eat it up, and that amuses him.

Fair, and i don't disagree, but time for him to either step it up, or be humbled. We will all find out.

[TheZachAttack]

I remember from the olympics that ant was self proclaiming himself as the no. 1 on the team. Doesn't quite seem like a guy willing to "shut up and listen".

I think Ant plays a character when the lights go up and the media asks him questions. I think he likes attention, he thinks it’s fun, but he doesn't really give a crap what he says. So no, I don’t think he “Swims like Phelps” or thinks he’s the #1 on a team with his heroes like LeBron, KD and Steph. But he knows the media will eat it up, and that amuses him.

Fair, and i don't disagree, but time for him to either step it up, or be humbled. We will all find out.

In Edwards last 12 games, he's averaging 31.5-5.7-5.5 on while shooting 45% from 3 on the 7th most attempts per game and t4th in the league in free throws per game at 8.1 and a TS of 62.2%. Over his last 17 games, he's averaging 28-6-5.1 on 60% TS. He's doing this while facing the highest number of double teams and the most help defenders in the league in the paint -- meaning there's no player in the NBA who creates more of an advantage in terms of shifted defense.


Is this stepping up?

[Loaf_of_bread]

I think Ant plays a character when the lights go up and the media asks him questions. I think he likes attention, he thinks it’s fun, but he doesn't really give a crap what he says. So no, I don’t think he “Swims like Phelps” or thinks he’s the #1 on a team with his heroes like LeBron, KD and Steph. But he knows the media will eat it up, and that amuses him.

Fair, and i don't disagree, but time for him to either step it up, or be humbled. We will all find out.

In Edwards last 12 games, he's averaging 31.5-5.7-5.5 on while shooting 45% from 3 on the 7th most attempts per game and t4th in the league in free throws per game at 8.1 and a TS of 62.2%. Over his last 17 games, he's averaging 28-6-5.1 on 60% TS. He's doing this while facing the highest number of double teams and the most help defenders in the league in the paint -- meaning there's no player in the NBA who creates more of an advantage in terms of shifted defense.


Is this stepping up?

Ok, I may have explained myself incorrectly. I am not talking about ANT playing better, and putting up numbers..efficiency, etc.

Looking for ANT to grow as a leader. Being a bit more humble. Limiting his foul complaining. Not having kids with multiple women..

He's got his style, and I think it's fine.. but imo could use a better mentor to help him refine himself a bit long-term. Thinking big picture.

Not quite sure I'm seeing as much positive progression as a whole compared to what I was expecting.

Maybe I'm wrong, just my thoughts.

[guest81]

Fair, and i don't disagree, but time for him to either step it up, or be humbled. We will all find out.

In Edwards last 12 games, he's averaging 31.5-5.7-5.5 on while shooting 45% from 3 on the 7th most attempts per game and t4th in the league in free throws per game at 8.1 and a TS of 62.2%. Over his last 17 games, he's averaging 28-6-5.1 on 60% TS. He's doing this while facing the highest number of double teams and the most help defenders in the league in the paint -- meaning there's no player in the NBA who creates more of an advantage in terms of shifted defense.


Is this stepping up?

Ok, I may have explained myself incorrectly. I am not talking about ANT playing better, and putting up numbers..efficiency, etc.

Looking for ANT to grow as a leader. Being a bit more humble. Limiting his foul complaining. Not having kids with multiple women..

He's got his style, and I think it's fine.. but imo could use a better mentor to help him refine himself a bit long-term. Thinking big picture.

Not quite sure I'm seeing as much positive progression as a whole compared to what I was expecting.

Maybe I'm wrong, just my thoughts.

Who cares what he does in his free time as long as it's legal. Jordan gambled, kobe cheated on his wife, kg punched teammates. Were they not good leaders?

[WolfAddict]

Fair, and i don't disagree, but time for him to either step it up, or be humbled. We will all find out.

In Edwards last 12 games, he's averaging 31.5-5.7-5.5 on while shooting 45% from 3 on the 7th most attempts per game and t4th in the league in free throws per game at 8.1 and a TS of 62.2%. Over his last 17 games, he's averaging 28-6-5.1 on 60% TS. He's doing this while facing the highest number of double teams and the most help defenders in the league in the paint -- meaning there's no player in the NBA who creates more of an advantage in terms of shifted defense.


Is this stepping up?

Ok, I may have explained myself incorrectly. I am not talking about ANT playing better, and putting up numbers..efficiency, etc.

Looking for ANT to grow as a leader. Being a bit more humble. Limiting his foul complaining. Not having kids with multiple women..

He's got his style, and I think it's fine.. but imo could use a better mentor to help him refine himself a bit long-term. Thinking big picture.

Not quite sure I'm seeing as much positive progression as a whole compared to what I was expecting.

Maybe I'm wrong, just my thoughts.

Agree with pretty much all, except the bolded part - I have kids with multiple women (2) and I'd consider myself a leader in my profession/place of business. Pretty confident that my colleagues would agree.

[Loaf_of_bread]

In Edwards last 12 games, he's averaging 31.5-5.7-5.5 on while shooting 45% from 3 on the 7th most attempts per game and t4th in the league in free throws per game at 8.1 and a TS of 62.2%. Over his last 17 games, he's averaging 28-6-5.1 on 60% TS. He's doing this while facing the highest number of double teams and the most help defenders in the league in the paint -- meaning there's no player in the NBA who creates more of an advantage in terms of shifted defense.


Is this stepping up?

Ok, I may have explained myself incorrectly. I am not talking about ANT playing better, and putting up numbers..efficiency, etc.

Looking for ANT to grow as a leader. Being a bit more humble. Limiting his foul complaining. Not having kids with multiple women..

He's got his style, and I think it's fine.. but imo could use a better mentor to help him refine himself a bit long-term. Thinking big picture.

Not quite sure I'm seeing as much positive progression as a whole compared to what I was expecting.

Maybe I'm wrong, just my thoughts.

Agree with pretty much all, except the bolded part - I have kids with multiple women (2) and I'd consider myself a leader in my profession/place of business. Pretty confident that my colleagues would agree.

Did you have them within a 3 month time frame?

Don't quite think your colleagues would approve.

Or maybe they do, lol.

[WolfAddict]

Ok, I may have explained myself incorrectly. I am not talking about ANT playing better, and putting up numbers..efficiency, etc.

Looking for ANT to grow as a leader. Being a bit more humble. Limiting his foul complaining. Not having kids with multiple women..

He's got his style, and I think it's fine.. but imo could use a better mentor to help him refine himself a bit long-term. Thinking big picture.

Not quite sure I'm seeing as much positive progression as a whole compared to what I was expecting.

Maybe I'm wrong, just my thoughts.

Agree with pretty much all, except the bolded part - I have kids with multiple women (2) and I'd consider myself a leader in my profession/place of business. Pretty confident that my colleagues would agree.

Did you have them within a 3 month time frame?

Don't quite think your colleagues would approve.

Or maybe they do, lol.

No, but even if I did, that has no bearing on me being a leader in the IT industry...

Do you really judge your workmates private lives in this way? If my colleagues didn't "approve" (strange workplace if you have to have them approve your private life) they can find other work. As I alluded to, I'm very well respected in my profession so I can guarantee they'd leave before I did.

[Loaf_of_bread]

Agree with pretty much all, except the bolded part - I have kids with multiple women (2) and I'd consider myself a leader in my profession/place of business. Pretty confident that my colleagues would agree.

Did you have them within a 3 month time frame?

Don't quite think your colleagues would approve.

Or maybe they do, lol.

No, but even if I did, that has no bearing on me being a leader in the IT industry...

Do you really judge your workmates private lives in this way? If my colleagues didn't "approve" (strange workplace if you have to have them approve your private life) they can find other work. As I alluded to, I'm very well respected in my profession so I can guarantee they'd leave before I did.

You are funny. You eluded to yourself twice in how good you think you are in your profession. Proud of you for being so successful. Gold star.

I didn't once mention your professional credibility. You brought your own baggage into comparing your life experience into a comment I made regarding ANT.

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Frustrating to see ant laugh about this.

[WolfAddict]

Did you have them within a 3 month time frame?

Don't quite think your colleagues would approve.

Or maybe they do, lol.

No, but even if I did, that has no bearing on me being a leader in the IT industry...

Do you really judge your workmates private lives in this way? If my colleagues didn't "approve" (strange workplace if you have to have them approve your private life) they can find other work. As I alluded to, I'm very well respected in my profession so I can guarantee they'd leave before I did.

You are funny. You eluded to yourself twice in how good you think you are in your profession. Proud of you for being so successful. Gold star.

I didn't once mention your professional credibility. You brought your own baggage into comparing your life experience into a comment I made regarding ANT.

I am It's "alluded" and yeah, I was bringing up my success in terms of being a leader in my profession after fathering children to multiple women. Which, according to your narrow mind, is a bad thing.

And you can **** right off champ, I have no baggage. I have children, not the same thing.

You must be a great workmate... being the judgemental prick you come across as.

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Frustrating to see ant laugh about this.

On one hand, I absolutely get why you are feeling this way. It feels dismissive and borderline disrespectful for him to just laugh off something that his coach says.

However, that's just Ant. Love him or hate him, Ant is Ant. This is not out of character for him. It's not so much that he's trying to undermine the coach in a coup to take over the franchise. He's just the kind of guy who doesn't really take life too seriously. And I can respect that, as long as it is him staying true to who he is.