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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4941 » by Rich Rane » Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:02 am

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Stearns doesn’t like these longterm contracts for pitchers. Minter might be safer pick over Scott, who’s had control issues in the past. I think that the other issue is that we’re up against most severe luxury tax where each contract will be doubled due to the penalty.


Perhaps it's my own pinstripe bias, but I still think even a short term AAV of around $30 million to Montas and Holmes is a lot riskier than Burnes's $35 million.

I get not wanting to give Tanner Scott a huge contract, especially a relief pitcher, but damn, the upside for the Dodgers was absolutely enormous and widens the gap between the Dodgers and everyone else. Yankees were never in on him despite needing a lefty and Scott's contract night mean they won't be re-signing Williams.


I think we can both agree to fuq the Dodgers.


I'm probably the only Yankees fan here that doesn't hate the Mets (sorry fellas). We're in different leagues, let alone different divisions. I never quite bought into the rivalry unless it was a Subway Series and even then I don't hate you guys. I don't even hate you guys now that you have Soto.

But yeah, :censored: the Dodgers.

The Mets are nowhere near them right now. I think we’re a wild card contender at best. Lots of question marks abound. Like last season, lots of things have to go right for us to make the playoffs.

I also think that Stearns is making a mess of the Alonso situation for no apparent reason. The two sides are only $10M apart. WTF?


That's seriously it? Just pay him. Even if you guys sign VGJ next offseason, like I said before move Alonso to third or DH.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4942 » by Luv those Knicks » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:21 pm

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That's seriously it? Just pay him. Even if you guys sign VGJ next offseason, like I said before move Alonso to third or DH.


I think it's more than 10 million. Pete wants a 3 year guaranteed contract around 80-90 with opt outs after every year.

The Mets have offered about 3 years 70, with a player opt out after 2 years, probably some deferred money.

It's hard to know what's really being offered and asked for as numbers are mostly 2nd hand and not confirmed, but I don't think they're close. If the Mets are going to be in on Vlad, then Pete doesn't make a ton of sense. It's hard to deny that. You don't need 2 first basemen and locking up DH means that other players don't get days off from playing the field.

I think Stearns wants to go in a different direction. Pete is a one tool player, low average, low OBP, bad base-running, bad fielding. Homers alone isn't enough, and I think Stearns sees his value, with the added problem that Pete might go downhill from here. It sucks, but it's a business decision.

Even though the Mets have a hole in their lineup right now at 1st, it's not just about 2025. It's also the length of the contract. They could sign Profar to a much smaller deal and Profar probably plays 1st better than Pete does and can play in other spots, though not very well. Or maybe a trade. There's time between now and the start of the season.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4943 » by Luv those Knicks » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:25 pm

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I think we can both agree to fuq the Dodgers.

The Mets are nowhere near them right now. I think we’re a wild card contender at best. Lots of question marks abound. Like last season, lots of things have to go right for us to make the playoffs.

I also think that Stearns is making a mess of the Alonso situation for no apparent reason. The two sides are only $10M apart. WTF?


The funny thing about 2024 is the Mets weren't even trying to make the playoffs. It was a re-set year. The forecast going in was maybe 80 wins. They just found some magic in the 2nd half.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4944 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:31 pm

Rich Rane wrote:
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Perhaps it's my own pinstripe bias, but I still think even a short term AAV of around $30 million to Montas and Holmes is a lot riskier than Burnes's $35 million.

I get not wanting to give Tanner Scott a huge contract, especially a relief pitcher, but damn, the upside for the Dodgers was absolutely enormous and widens the gap between the Dodgers and everyone else. Yankees were never in on him despite needing a lefty and Scott's contract night mean they won't be re-signing Williams.


I think we can both agree to fuq the Dodgers.


I'm probably the only Yankees fan here that doesn't hate the Mets (sorry fellas). We're in different leagues, let alone different divisions. I never quite bought into the rivalry unless it was a Subway Series and even then I don't hate you guys. I don't even hate you guys now that you have Soto.

But yeah, :censored: the Dodgers.

The Mets are nowhere near them right now. I think we’re a wild card contender at best. Lots of question marks abound. Like last season, lots of things have to go right for us to make the playoffs.

I also think that Stearns is making a mess of the Alonso situation for no apparent reason. The two sides are only $10M apart. WTF?


That's seriously it? Just pay him. Even if you guys sign VGJ next offseason, like I said before move Alonso to third or DH.



I also don't hate the Mets, they're my late uncle's team.

I just like to talk sh*t to Mets fans :lol:
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4945 » by knicks94 » Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:50 am

I guess it is at least one more month of slow Yankee news with Azzman having his entire infield and lineup sorted.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4946 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:34 pm

knicks94 wrote:I guess it is at least one more month of slow Yankee news with Azzman having his entire infield and lineup sorted.


We aren't making any more moves until someone trades for Stroman's contract.

Hal is an ass hole. The Dodgers won a championship and they're adding salary, yet here we are penny pinching.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4947 » by KnicksGadfly » Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:55 pm

Yep. I don’t want to hear complaints about the Dodgers…they should have been complaining about the Yankees for the past ten years and the one person who has stopped that is Hal.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4948 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:27 am

Waiting for Marcus Stroman’s money to come off the books through trade is irresponsible, directly conflicts with their desire to contend, and is about as anti-Yankee as it gets.


https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-yankees/yankees-stuck-in-an-18-million-bind-with-veteran-starter/

So let me get this straight. Brian signs Stroman to a deal no one else would have and now that contract is preventing the team from filling critical positions in order for us to contend.

This is incompetence. Ever since the team pulled that crap with Rizzo after he got concussed i had a bad feeling that the organization is full of rot and unfortunately my gut instinct was right.

They're not serious about winning. As long as the money flows in what happens on the field is irrelevant to Hal.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4949 » by blue and orange » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:38 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:Yep. I don’t want to hear complaints about the Dodgers…they should have been complaining about the Yankees for the past ten years and the one person who has stopped that is Hal.


No one hates guys that suck, opposing fan bases hated George and they just laugh at Hal.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4950 » by KnicksGadfly » Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:13 pm

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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4952 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:47 am

New York Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner acknowledged that a large portion of MLB owners are having a hard time keeping up with the spending of the Los Angeles Dodgers.

"It's difficult for most of us owners to be able to do the kind of things that they're doing,"
Steinbrenner told YES Network's Meredith Marakovits on Tuesday. "We'll see if it pays off. They still have to have a season relatively injury free for it to work out for them, and it's a long season, as you know, and once you get to the postseason, anything can happen. We've seen that time and time again."


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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4953 » by Starksfor3yes » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:27 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
New York Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner acknowledged that a large portion of MLB owners are having a hard time keeping up with the spending of the Los Angeles Dodgers.

"It's difficult for most of us owners to be able to do the kind of things that they're doing,"
Steinbrenner told YES Network's Meredith Marakovits on Tuesday. "We'll see if it pays off. They still have to have a season relatively injury free for it to work out for them, and it's a long season, as you know, and once you get to the postseason, anything can happen. We've seen that time and time again."


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Hal STFU. And Brian and Boone can GTFO.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4954 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:43 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
New York Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner acknowledged that a large portion of MLB owners are having a hard time keeping up with the spending of the Los Angeles Dodgers.

"It's difficult for most of us owners to be able to do the kind of things that they're doing,"
Steinbrenner told YES Network's Meredith Marakovits on Tuesday. "We'll see if it pays off. They still have to have a season relatively injury free for it to work out for them, and it's a long season, as you know, and once you get to the postseason, anything can happen. We've seen that time and time again."


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Gotta notice how he's trying to get himself lumped into "us owners" cause he'd be lying if he said the Yankees couldn't do what the Dodgers were doing. It's such a loser statement. He's talking about how the Dodgers need to be injury free and how he'll rely on luck in the postseason for one damn chip, whereas the Dodgers are talking about winning multiple rings.

I feel like Yankees fans aren't asking too much when we say we don't want to rely on the corpse of DJ at 3B.

I'm so happy Hal is getting exposed because there was too much slurping in this thread about him a while back.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4955 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:15 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
New York Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner acknowledged that a large portion of MLB owners are having a hard time keeping up with the spending of the Los Angeles Dodgers.

"It's difficult for most of us owners to be able to do the kind of things that they're doing,"
Steinbrenner told YES Network's Meredith Marakovits on Tuesday. "We'll see if it pays off. They still have to have a season relatively injury free for it to work out for them, and it's a long season, as you know, and once you get to the postseason, anything can happen. We've seen that time and time again."


https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/3203236

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Gotta notice how he's trying to get himself lumped into "us owners" cause he'd be lying if he said the Yankees couldn't do what the Dodgers were doing. It's such a loser statement. He's talking about how the Dodgers need to be injury free and how he'll rely on luck in the postseason for one damn chip, whereas the Dodgers are talking about winning multiple rings.

I feel like Yankees fans aren't asking too much when we say we don't want to rely on the corpse of DJ at 3B.

I'm so happy Hal is getting exposed because there was too much slurping in this thread about him a while back.


Hal trying to lump himself in with the poors is embarrassing. This isn't Pittsburgh or Kansas City.

He should sell the team if the financial burden is too much for his rich ass. What a POS this guy is.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4956 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:16 pm

There is gonna be a labor stoppage. Mark my words.

I'm not even mad at the Dodgers. They have the tools, talent and the will to win.

I can't help but notice that every team that Magic Johnson owns a stake in is focused on winning at any costs in both MLB and NFL.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4957 » by knicks94 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:25 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:There is gonna be a labor stoppage. Mark my words.

I'm not even mad at the Dodgers. They have the tools, talent and the will to win.

I can't help but notice that every team that Magic Johnson owns a stake in is focused on winning at any costs in both MLB and NFL.

Magic Johnson was the reason why the Knicks suffered under Isiah Thomas.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4958 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:29 pm

knicks94 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:There is gonna be a labor stoppage. Mark my words.

I'm not even mad at the Dodgers. They have the tools, talent and the will to win.

I can't help but notice that every team that Magic Johnson owns a stake in is focused on winning at any costs in both MLB and NFL.

Magic Johnson was the reason why the Knicks suffered under Isiah Thomas.


Wait really??

Story time?
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4959 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:45 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:There is gonna be a labor stoppage. Mark my words.

I'm not even mad at the Dodgers. They have the tools, talent and the will to win.

I can't help but notice that every team that Magic Johnson owns a stake in is focused on winning at any costs in both MLB and NFL.


Probably…it’s what Hal wants. He’s more focused on not paying MLB players rather than winning.
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Re: 2023 New York Yankees Thread 

Post#4960 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:48 pm

Kim signs with the Rays…you know it’s a good deal when even the Rays get involved. Yankees will probably try to trade for him during the deadline but the deal will fall through when they ask the Rays to pay his whole salary and then trade for some random bust reliever. For a team that wants to be the Rays, they really don’t want to follow the Rays.

Seriously…this would have been a good deal for the Yankees. Short-term, with a history of high-end returns, not costing a draft pick, not especially expensive, fixed a defensive hole. But of course…money.

I despise and abhor Hal.

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