2024-2025 Regular Season Game 49: Orlando Magic (24-24) at Portland Trail Blazers (18-29) - 10pm
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 49: Orlando Magic (24-24) at Portland Trail Blazers (18-29) - 10pm
Weltman is probably sleeping like a baby right now without a care in the world.
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thelead wrote:ogmagicfan wrote:Idiosyncratic wrote:
Looked like he would fit right in.
I dont know if this is a positive cosign or not
Look at the +/- for all the starters and tell me who does not look like the others…
Hence why he's been on the trade block for as long as he's been
The Blazers GM/Ownership also sits on their hands, similar to the Magic.
They shouldve traded Grant last year, his numbers this year look horrendous. They only want to make a trade if they feel theyre winning. Problem is they arent savvy enough
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thelead wrote:I HATE Mosley’s offense but this is 95% on Weltman and Parker. No excuse in 2025 to have a team that is dead last in 3pt shooting percentage by a wide margin if you are not explicitly tanking.
When you create a historically bad 3pt shooting team in this era is time you are to be sent packing.
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VFX wrote:ogmagicfan wrote:I really wish we got atleast one of Cason Wallace or Dereck Lively in 2023. Those were my favorite 2 players available when we were drafting
AB & Jett just aint cutting it, and we dont have the luxury of time or fit to wait for them to figure it out
TOO BADDD
It's ridiculous
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I’m not even mad. I’m disgusted by the product they’re putting out there.

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OrlChamps2030 wrote:GameOver25 wrote:ogmagicfan wrote:I really wish we got atleast one of Cason Wallace or Dereck Lively in 2023. Those were my favorite 2 players available when we were drafting
AB & Jett just aint cutting it, and we dont have the luxury of time or fit to wait for them to figure it out
AB is so disappointing. Mosley clearly states he's at his best when he attacks. He's in the starting lineup and does absolutely nothing. Just says a lot when you don't even attempt to be aggressive.
The lack of aggression from AB is such a red flag
Trade bait.
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Optimus_Steel wrote:thelead wrote:I HATE Mosley’s offense but this is 95% on Weltman and Parker. No excuse in 2025 to have a team that is dead last in 3pt shooting percentage by a wide margin if you are not explicitly tanking.
When you create a historically bad 3pt shooting team in this era is time you are to be sent packing.
Then you go out and get a guy who averaged 40% from 3 over the last 5 seasons and he ends up shooting 31%. lol.
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If Suggs comes back and they look fine then I will have to agree with the Suggs +100 Aura points people lol.
I agree he has aura points and lifts the team, I just think they legitimately stink right now even if he's playing. I'm as patient as anyone, but it really does look like they have been figured out by the league.
Maybe I'm wrong and they just start winning again. But something feels off and I would usually be one to not overreact to a small sample set of games.
We will see I guess!
I agree he has aura points and lifts the team, I just think they legitimately stink right now even if he's playing. I'm as patient as anyone, but it really does look like they have been figured out by the league.
Maybe I'm wrong and they just start winning again. But something feels off and I would usually be one to not overreact to a small sample set of games.
We will see I guess!
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Optimus_Steel wrote:thelead wrote:I HATE Mosley’s offense but this is 95% on Weltman and Parker. No excuse in 2025 to have a team that is dead last in 3pt shooting percentage by a wide margin if you are not explicitly tanking.
When you create a historically bad 3pt shooting team in this era is time you are to be sent packing.
Its shocking how good we have been doing in spite of having no 3 pt shooting past couple years
I'm happy this is happening now rather than next season-2 seasons down the road. This is something that had to be solved. That means getting players who cant shoot 3's off the dribble, not just C&S.
That means getting an actual PG, not just forcing your forwards to tire themselves out and do it all for you
No wonder they both tore their obliques for God's sake they're carrying our whole damn team on their backs
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Driguez wrote:RichCollab wrote:Fire coach to send a message.
What no
When the group looks bad and you go on a down spiral I do think you need to look at the coach.
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Looks like WePark screwed up the 2023 draft. Enough time now to make determinations. Just keep drafting non shooters…
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Can't win without Goga has expired, give me some can't win without Suggs
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Audi wrote:Optimus_Steel wrote:thelead wrote:I HATE Mosley’s offense but this is 95% on Weltman and Parker. No excuse in 2025 to have a team that is dead last in 3pt shooting percentage by a wide margin if you are not explicitly tanking.
When you create a historically bad 3pt shooting team in this era is time you are to be sent packing.
Then you go out and get a guy who averaged 40% from 3 over the last 5 seasons and he ends up shooting 31%. lol.
Turns out you need to have a system blanket surrounding him to actually pull that role off.
Jokic isnt on this roster. Jamal Murray isnt on this roster. KCP is the furthest thing from a "playmaker". He's a role player that has made a career off being a double/triple team outlet for players a million times better.
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The lineup numbers for the starters over the last 10 games (3 for Franz) is woeful. Goga and TDS are the only positives in 2-man lineups for both Paolo and Franz.
Paolo and Franz are -10 in +/- and -18.7 in netrtg.
KCP is -16 in +/- and -41.9 netrtg with Franz. He’s -6 +/- and -15 net with Paolo.
WCJ is -6 +/- and -14 net with both Franz and Paolo.
KCP and WCJ are dead money and liabilities. Gotta move them.
Cole, to his credit, is only just in the negative with both.
That’s without factoring in tonight’s game.
Paolo and Franz are -10 in +/- and -18.7 in netrtg.
KCP is -16 in +/- and -41.9 netrtg with Franz. He’s -6 +/- and -15 net with Paolo.
WCJ is -6 +/- and -14 net with both Franz and Paolo.
KCP and WCJ are dead money and liabilities. Gotta move them.
Cole, to his credit, is only just in the negative with both.
That’s without factoring in tonight’s game.
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Idiosyncratic wrote:If Suggs comes back and they look fine then I will have to agree with the Suggs +100 Aura points people lol.
I agree he has aura points and lifts the team, I just think they legitimately stink right now even if he's playing. I'm as patient as anyone, but it really does look like they have been figured out by the league.
Maybe I'm wrong and they just start winning again. But something feels off and I would usually be one to not overreact to a small sample set of games.
We will see I guess!
It would be one thing to be the 20th best offense in the league but to be the absolute worst over the last month and second to last for the whole season? Fire alarms should be going off. Not to mention the slide on defense…

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They have to focus on next season. They aren’t winning **** this year.
Fire Weltman tonight. Hire a serious GM.
Move Pope, Cold, WVJ, Harrris and the two lotto busts (black, jett) for whatever they can get.
Fire Weltman tonight. Hire a serious GM.
Move Pope, Cold, WVJ, Harrris and the two lotto busts (black, jett) for whatever they can get.
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Da Silva is honestly not that great, team is lower iq than they were last year. Gary, Ingles, Mo and yes Fultz were better, higher iq offensive players than Silva, Black, or Goga.
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Man watching teams like the Grizzlies and Rockets battle it out without Ja or Sengun and showcasing their coaching/depth hurts. It’s what the Magic should be.
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SloNick Russia wrote:Can't win without Goga has expired, give me some can't win without Suggs
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We need Goga, Suggs, JI, and Mo… to go along with Paolo and Franz being able to hit 3’s. WCJ forgetting how to shoot has also killed us. Suggs is a difference maker but he wouldn’t have won this game by himself. He’d break his body trying to drag the other guys as much as he could though.

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Idk how we go from being one of the top 3 defenses to bottom 8 over the last 10 games. Our offense always sucked but it was our defense that gave us a chance to win. Makes no sense.







