So who wants Demar?

[ConSarnit]

The folks on TV seem to think they need a guy who can facilitate the offense when SGA is out.
That's where my idea of fit comes from anyhow.

I know the Kings won't do it but they should consider moving Monk to OKC once the Fox stuff sorts itself out. With Fox gone SAC is probably going to be forced into a rebuild at some point. Move Fox and then move Monk to OKC to fill in picks around the years you didn't get picks in the Fox trade. Try to get into a position where you have 10 1sts over the next 5-6 years. Monk to OKC solves their ball handling + bench creation issues at a fair cost going forward. SAC gets Wiggins + Kenrich + 2 solid 1sts (filling in the gap years based on picks gotten in the Fox trade) + 2nds. Monk should have a better market than Demar based on age, contract and fit.

Without Fox this SAC team is going to fall off and falling off means not even being a play-in team. They should start the rebuild now. See what the market for Sabonis or Demar is as well. I know this isn't appealing to SAC fans but I can easily see world in which they spin their wheels over the next 2-3 years and are eventually forced into a rebuild as Demar ages out. When your star forces his way out it's really tough to hold the fort and probably makes a rebuild inevitable imo.

I just want to point out that if Fox is gone, Monk becomes our starting PG. In the last month since Doug Christie took over coaching Monk is averaging fantastic numbers 22.5pts 7.8Asts 3.6Rbs on great efficiency 46% FG and 89% FT. I don't see the kings trading him after moving fox. I don't see the kings moving toward a rebuild at all honestly.

We have had a bad team for such a long time I just can't imagine heading toward a rebuild again, and I don't think Vivek wants to rebuild in that situation either. Our front court has been pretty bad the last couple years if the kings use the fox trade to shore up those weaknesses I think we could be a good team, especially with how monk has performed as a starter.

Getting front court help will change our roster significantly. If we can add a good starter level PF that moves Keegan back to SF and suddenly the kings no longer have a length problem in fact we would have good size at SF and SG and PG.

I would be very excited about a depth chart that looks like this.

Monk/Carter
Derozan/Ellis
Keegan/Ellis
Starting PF/Keegan
Sabonis/Lyles

I agree that I don't think they will rebuild but I think they should. The above team still looks like a play-in team to me. Maybe the Kings can hold the fort with Monk in place of Fox but what type of fort are they holding? Chasing 44 win seasons for the next 2-3 years? It really feels like this era has run it's course and I don't see much upside to the team. I understand not wanting to rebuild after many years of futility but I believe if SAC doesn't rebuild now they will be forced to eventually.

[Cappy_Smurf]

Player X sucks, but his nickname is fantastic.

[Texas Chuck]

Most teams look at him moving forward as a 6th man at best but his contract makes that prohibitive in terms of value given his age. His contract isn't bad, its just that his remaining skills dont translate to being a starter.

He's starting and playing well right now.

I never understand all these post saying a player can't do what they are actually in the process of doing?

[nykballa2k4]

The folks on TV seem to think they need a guy who can facilitate the offense when SGA is out.
That's where my idea of fit comes from anyhow.

I know the Kings won't do it but they should consider moving Monk to OKC once the Fox stuff sorts itself out. With Fox gone SAC is probably going to be forced into a rebuild at some point. Move Fox and then move Monk to OKC to fill in picks around the years you didn't get picks in the Fox trade. Try to get into a position where you have 10 1sts over the next 5-6 years. Monk to OKC solves their ball handling + bench creation issues at a fair cost going forward. SAC gets Wiggins + Kenrich + 2 solid 1sts (filling in the gap years based on picks gotten in the Fox trade) + 2nds. Monk should have a better market than Demar based on age, contract and fit.

Without Fox this SAC team is going to fall off and falling off means not even being a play-in team. They should start the rebuild now. See what the market for Sabonis or Demar is as well. I know this isn't appealing to SAC fans but I can easily see world in which they spin their wheels over the next 2-3 years and are eventually forced into a rebuild as Demar ages out. When your star forces his way out it's really tough to hold the fort and probably makes a rebuild inevitable imo.

I just want to point out that if Fox is gone, Monk becomes our starting PG. In the last month since Doug Christie took over coaching Monk is averaging fantastic numbers 22.5pts 7.8Asts 3.6Rbs on great efficiency 46% FG and 89% FT. I don't see the kings trading him after moving fox. I don't see the kings moving toward a rebuild at all honestly.

We have had a bad team for such a long time I just can't imagine heading toward a rebuild again, and I don't think Vivek wants to rebuild in that situation either. Our front court has been pretty bad the last couple years if the kings use the fox trade to shore up those weaknesses I think we could be a good team, especially with how monk has performed as a starter.

Getting front court help will change our roster significantly. If we can add a good starter level PF that moves Keegan back to SF and suddenly the kings no longer have a length problem in fact we would have good size at SF and SG and PG.

I would be very excited about a depth chart that looks like this.

Monk/Carter
Derozan/Ellis
Keegan/Ellis
Starting PF/Keegan
Sabonis/Lyles

Dealing with Ainge is dealing with the devil, but Collins fills that gap nicely.

[NBAhipster24]

Demar for Bruce Brown. Let him and Drake hash out the Kendrick situation for three years lol perfect money match too

[longfellow44]

I know the Kings won't do it but they should consider moving Monk to OKC once the Fox stuff sorts itself out. With Fox gone SAC is probably going to be forced into a rebuild at some point. Move Fox and then move Monk to OKC to fill in picks around the years you didn't get picks in the Fox trade. Try to get into a position where you have 10 1sts over the next 5-6 years. Monk to OKC solves their ball handling + bench creation issues at a fair cost going forward. SAC gets Wiggins + Kenrich + 2 solid 1sts (filling in the gap years based on picks gotten in the Fox trade) + 2nds. Monk should have a better market than Demar based on age, contract and fit.

Without Fox this SAC team is going to fall off and falling off means not even being a play-in team. They should start the rebuild now. See what the market for Sabonis or Demar is as well. I know this isn't appealing to SAC fans but I can easily see world in which they spin their wheels over the next 2-3 years and are eventually forced into a rebuild as Demar ages out. When your star forces his way out it's really tough to hold the fort and probably makes a rebuild inevitable imo.

I just want to point out that if Fox is gone, Monk becomes our starting PG. In the last month since Doug Christie took over coaching Monk is averaging fantastic numbers 22.5pts 7.8Asts 3.6Rbs on great efficiency 46% FG and 89% FT. I don't see the kings trading him after moving fox. I don't see the kings moving toward a rebuild at all honestly.

We have had a bad team for such a long time I just can't imagine heading toward a rebuild again, and I don't think Vivek wants to rebuild in that situation either. Our front court has been pretty bad the last couple years if the kings use the fox trade to shore up those weaknesses I think we could be a good team, especially with how monk has performed as a starter.

Getting front court help will change our roster significantly. If we can add a good starter level PF that moves Keegan back to SF and suddenly the kings no longer have a length problem in fact we would have good size at SF and SG and PG.

I would be very excited about a depth chart that looks like this.

Monk/Carter
Derozan/Ellis
Keegan/Ellis
Starting PF/Keegan
Sabonis/Lyles

Dealing with Ainge is dealing with the devil, but Collins fills that gap nicely.

I agree, that is my target of choice. I think he is an ideal fit.

[One_and_Done]

No idea why Demar getting hate..

But if SA trades for Fox, they can pretty easily take Demar with him. Keldon isn’t good.

If Demar is willing to come off the bench like Keldon, then that night not be a bad idea. I kinda doubt it though.

[jayjaysee]

No idea why Demar getting hate..

But if SA trades for Fox, they can pretty easily take Demar with him. Keldon isn’t good.

If Demar is willing to come off the bench like Keldon, then that night not be a bad idea. I kinda doubt it though.

I think he would be for the right team? And SA with Fox/Wemby feel like the right team? SA has a good history of that though..

But I also think Castle, Harry or Sochan (whichever) could come off the bench and be subbed in after 1.5-2 minutes and bring Demar back in whenever one of the offensive creators goes out. Give the old man the respect nod sort of thing and imagine next year he goes into the sixth man role?

[Texas Chuck]

Who closes is always more important. And in San Antonio you just mention Manu. If Manu can come off the bench, basically anyone can.

[One_and_Done]

No idea why Demar getting hate..

But if SA trades for Fox, they can pretty easily take Demar with him. Keldon isn’t good.

If Demar is willing to come off the bench like Keldon, then that night not be a bad idea. I kinda doubt it though.

I think he would be for the right team? And SA with Fox/Wemby feel like the right team?

But I also think JC, Harry or Sochan could come off the bench and be subbed in after 1.5-2 minutes and bring Demar back in whenever one of the offensive creators goes out. Give the old man the respect nod sort of thing..

Demar is one of those vets who is kinda delusional, which isn't uncommon or unfair. To get to where he did he has to believe in himself to a high degree, but in today's league he is a bench player for a winner and has been for a long time. He will never happily consent to come off the bench until the wheels completely come off.

He would kill the Spurs starring line-up. Kill it. Just like he did in Sac and Chicago and SA before that. Subbing guys in after 2 minutes destroys line-ups and rotations. Even Keith Bogan's would get a good 9.

[One_and_Done]

Who closes is always more important. And in San Antonio you just mention Manu. If Manu can come off the bench, basically anyone can.

Manu played D and hit 3s. Demar does neither.

[Texas Chuck]

Im not comparing their games. I'm saying Manu was a HoFer. So if he can come off the bench a really good vet like DeRozan could.

But I don't have extreme takes on every player so my mileage will vary. I don't pretend to know the mentality of every player or who can and can't start on good teams etc... I'll leave that to you who are much smarter than me.

[jayjaysee]

He would kill the Spurs starring line-up. Kill it. Just like he did in Sac and Chicago and SA before that.

That’s a weird thing for a guy that usually pushes his team to around 500 ball?

He’s getting blamed for not being as good as Leonard…? SA was broken when they got him, LMA was sadly falling apart quicker than the guards could develop…

Chicago was bad with him but is terrible without him..

He’s obviously not some superstar.

[One_and_Done]

He would kill the Spurs starring line-up. Kill it. Just like he did in Sac and Chicago and SA before that.

That’s a weird thing for a guy that usually pushes his team to around 500 ball?

He’s getting blamed for not being as good as Leonard…? SA was broken when they got him, LMA was sadly falling apart quicker than the guards could develop…

Chicago was bad with him but is terrible without him..

He’s obviously not some superstar.

He's been on one playoff team in the past 5 years, and it'll soon be 6. He is a big reason for that.

[jayjaysee]

He would kill the Spurs starring line-up. Kill it. Just like he did in Sac and Chicago and SA before that.

That’s a weird thing for a guy that usually pushes his team to around 500 ball?

He’s getting blamed for not being as good as Leonard…? SA was broken when they got him, LMA was sadly falling apart quicker than the guards could develop…

Chicago was bad with him but is terrible without him..

He’s obviously not some superstar.

He's been on one playoff team in the past 5 years, and it'll soon be 6. He is a big reason for that.

Are you describing an actual star/top 2 piece on roster guy or a guy making 23 million dollars / 16% of the cap?

If Demar was supposed to carry teams to the playoffs, he’d make 10~ million more a year.

He’s supposed to score. Efficiently... He does that against almost anyone.. His teams are better when he plays?

Think teams stopped thinking he’s carrying them to a championship about 8-9 years ago?

[One_and_Done]

I don't think he helps you much either. The Bulls certainly didn't drop much without him, even though they intended to be bad this year and had injuries.

The bigger point is you don't want flawed pieces around Wemby, unless they're young guys who might fix those flaws. DDR is a known commodity.