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Post#1201 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:31 am

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Gobert went for 4 picks,Mitchell for 5 (I think)..



That is assuming all 29 other teams believed that Luka was durable and said no.

Clearly Mavs ownership had zero confidence with Luka being able to handle the rigors of a whole NBA season and have enough left for a strong finals run. Their money, their choice. I'm not taking sides, I'm just reading the situation. Time will tell if it's right or wrong.


Yup,time will tell...but since the reports are that Luka is shocked ,and I'm sure dissapointed, maybe that's exactly what he needs(to light a fire under him) to make that final step in getting better(condition) and show a big F U to the Mavs owners...cause I don't think Nico would do this without the pressure from the owners...or Nico is a great poker Player,considering he was talking how the team is good,they Just need to get healthy


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Post#1202 » by Apz » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:37 am

Wouldnt surprise me if luka says **** your **** league and moves back to europe when his contract ends. I bet he feels really betrayed and prefer to play out his career in madrid. He has made enough money
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Post#1203 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:42 am

Apz wrote:Wouldnt surprise me if luka says **** your **** league and moves back to europe when his contract ends. I bet he feels really betrayed and prefer to play out his career in madrid. He has made enough money



It's a free country. I'd like to believe he's free to move to wherever he likes.

But for the record, he's the one who applied for the NBA draft and not the other way around. If he feels he's made enough money to retire then I don't see the problem with it. Like an employee moving out of the company, he is free to resign anytime as long as his contract obligations are up.
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Post#1204 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:49 am

For the record, I think the reason why Luka was traded for so little is Luka also has a player option next year. Which means any team he gets traded to, he's essentially a one year rental. No guarantee he stays and re-signs with the Lakers as well. He's a one year rental if he doesn't like a Luka - Bronny James backcourt, he'll move to another team that has cap space.
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Post#1205 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:51 am

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Apz wrote:Wouldnt surprise me if luka says **** your **** league and moves back to europe when his contract ends. I bet he feels really betrayed and prefer to play out his career in madrid. He has made enough money



It's a free country. I'd like to believe he's free to move to wherever he likes.

But for the record, he's the one who applied for the NBA draft and not the other way around. If he feels he's made enough money to retire then I don't see the problem with it. Like an employee moving out of the company, he is free to resign anytime as long as his contract obligations are up.


Nah, won't happen....if he's not happy with the Lakers he can always go where he wants in the FA...besides, I don't think Lakers are done...I could see a mayor FA signings in the next two years(Giannis,Joker,....)

Also...Lakers(because of Kobe) ,Chicago(MJ) and Spurs(Golden era) are probably the most popular teams in Slovenia...mine were also the Mavs,cause Dirk was my favorite Player...at least some people will be happy there won't be anymore slovenian fans in here :lol: ...I'll still check up on the Mavs, but now will have to add some Laker games I guess :roll:
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Post#1206 » by Bob8 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:56 am

arkuo wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote::roll: ki
arkuo wrote:

Fox will play where Rich Paul tells him to play. Fox and AD share the same agent. Something to add to the mix.


Fox ain't making Mavs a contender...stop with the nonsense...only a true superstar like SGA, Jokić would make them a contender


Like I said, the whole disconnect with fans here is because you guys assume that the goal is to contend and fail to realize that moving Luka was a financial move. A financial move was for a financial goal. If the goal was to earn the same amount of money from a sports team and get out of an obligation to pay a supermax for a superstar that you dont see finishing the season healthy, then mission accomplished. Objective is to fill seats and get advertising money. Doesn't matter where the money and savings come from if the bottomline is the same.

The fanbase is expecting contention, sports wins etc. I fully agree. But if the owners' goals differ from the fans, then this is where the disconnect lies. I'm not for the situation, I'm just reading it as it is.


How is this a financial move, if AD is on supermax too? AD will be 35 years old getting 66 mio per year.
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Post#1207 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:57 am

This tweet summaries the events probably the most accurate:

Imagine the phone call

Mavs- “we want AD”

Lakers- “not available”

Mavs- “for Luka”

Lakers- “AD will be there in the morning”

:P
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Post#1208 » by Henry Turner » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:57 am

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I hate the lakers with passion.
Really feel its God telling me to stop spending time on sports and focus on my family….
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Post#1209 » by ACMFFL » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:10 am

I feel so bad..

Wtf did it happen? Why???
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Post#1210 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:10 am

Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote::roll: ki

Fox ain't making Mavs a contender...stop with the nonsense...only a true superstar like SGA, Jokić would make them a contender


Like I said, the whole disconnect with fans here is because you guys assume that the goal is to contend and fail to realize that moving Luka was a financial move. A financial move was for a financial goal. If the goal was to earn the same amount of money from a sports team and get out of an obligation to pay a supermax for a superstar that you dont see finishing the season healthy, then mission accomplished. Objective is to fill seats and get advertising money. Doesn't matter where the money and savings come from if the bottomline is the same.

The fanbase is expecting contention, sports wins etc. I fully agree. But if the owners' goals differ from the fans, then this is where the disconnect lies. I'm not for the situation, I'm just reading it as it is.


How is this a financial move, if AD is on supermax too? AD will be 35 years old getting 66 mio per year.


You have to email them to find out.

Here.

MavsTV@DallasMavs.com

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Post#1211 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:12 am

NBA is rigged.

Audience is low, they need a move. This is the move.
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Post#1212 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:13 am

41Dirk41 wrote:NBA is rigged.

Audience is low, they need a move. This is the move.



Boston vs LA. Blockbuster :nod:
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Post#1213 » by ACMFFL » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:14 am

arkuo wrote:For the record, I think the reason why Luka was traded for so little is Luka also has a player option next year. Which means any team he gets traded to, he's essentially a one year rental. No guarantee he stays and re-signs with the Lakers as well. He's a one year rental if he doesn't like a Luka - Bronny James backcourt, he'll move to another team that has cap space.


But why did we trade our 26 years old franchise player?
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Post#1214 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:16 am

The problem is not trade Luka or not, it's what we took for him.

28 teams would have beaten for sure this offer.

Silver move. Sure
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Post#1215 » by Bob8 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:16 am

arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Like I said, the whole disconnect with fans here is because you guys assume that the goal is to contend and fail to realize that moving Luka was a financial move. A financial move was for a financial goal. If the goal was to earn the same amount of money from a sports team and get out of an obligation to pay a supermax for a superstar that you dont see finishing the season healthy, then mission accomplished. Objective is to fill seats and get advertising money. Doesn't matter where the money and savings come from if the bottomline is the same.

The fanbase is expecting contention, sports wins etc. I fully agree. But if the owners' goals differ from the fans, then this is where the disconnect lies. I'm not for the situation, I'm just reading it as it is.


How is this a financial move, if AD is on supermax too? AD will be 35 years old getting 66 mio per year.


You have to email them to find out.

Here.

MavsTV@DallasMavs.com

:lol: :lol: :lol:


You're claiming all night long it's financial reasons, so I'm asking you.
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Post#1216 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:18 am

ACMFFL wrote:
arkuo wrote:For the record, I think the reason why Luka was traded for so little is Luka also has a player option next year. Which means any team he gets traded to, he's essentially a one year rental. No guarantee he stays and re-signs with the Lakers as well. He's a one year rental if he doesn't like a Luka - Bronny James backcourt, he'll move to another team that has cap space.


But why did we trade our 26 years old franchise player?



Simple. New ownership has zero confidence in 26 year old franchise player getting back to shape. They've seen more than us. They know more than us. So a decision was made. Up to Luka to prove them wrong now.
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Post#1217 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:21 am

41Dirk41 wrote:The problem is not trade Luka or not, it's what we took for him.

28 teams would have beaten for sure this offer.

Silver move. Sure


Yup..that Houston and SAS swap picks are worth Gold right now...I regije to believe this is the Best deal they could have gotten
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Post#1218 » by Doranku » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:22 am

Is it crazy to think this Mavs team could win a title if they're healthy (which is obviously a big if given their personnel) this year?

Kyrie
Klay
PJ
AD
Lively

Dinwiddie/Exum
Grimes
Naji
OMax
Gafford

That is a TOUGH roster to score on.
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Post#1219 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:22 am

Maverick41 wrote:So what's the plan? Try and contend with 2 career 2nd options? And how in the world do we only get 1 FRP? And how do WE give up a SRP too?

What a frustrating trade. I've been a Mavs fan for over 3 decades. This is the most pissed I've ever been for a Mavs trade. It's not even close.

That made the least sense. I could accept maybe there's stuff in the background that made them no longer want Luka but to only get one FRP to build for the future is total negligence
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Post#1220 » by Mavrelous » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:24 am

Doranku wrote:Is it crazy to think this Mavs team could win a title if they're healthy (which is obviously a big if given their personnel) this year?

Kyrie
Klay
PJ
AD
Lively

Dinwiddie/Exum
Grimes
Naji
OMax
Gafford

That is a TOUGH roster to score on.

HAve you been watching? Kyrie is not a PG, this team will not know what to do in halfcourt offense in PO setting.
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