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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#121 » by Plossum » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:58 am

What’s the Giannis equivalent of this trade?

Bucks trade Giannis and Bobby for like KD, Grayson and a pick?
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#122 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:59 am

RRyder823 wrote:The simple fact that no other executive knew Luka was available tells you all you need to know about whether or not this is just a shady ass deal.

I'll follow the Bucks as long as Giannis is here but outside of that I'm probably done

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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#123 » by HKPackFan » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:01 am

Plossum wrote:For the conspiracy theorists: what’s the quid pro quo for Dallas here? If silver has pulled the strings on this one, what has promised Dallas in return?


Owners get more hookers and blow and a nicer jet.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#124 » by AussieBuck » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:03 am

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RRyder823 wrote:The simple fact that no other executive knew Luka was available tells you all you need to know about whether or not this is just a shady ass deal.

I'll follow the Bucks as long as Giannis is here but outside of that I'm probably done

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When Giannis moves on I think I'll probably just get really back into college basketball and live and die with the lottery. That was fun.

Think I'll just watch my 2 favourite teams win in 2021 forever and pretend the outside world stopped happening about then.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#125 » by raferfenix » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:04 am

What team would say no to whatever Dallas offered?

Milwaukee, Denver and?

I don’t buy it.

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league sources say there was at least one team besides the Lakers that was approached by Dallas nearly two weeks ago about the prospect of swapping Dončić for another star.

That bid was turned down, but the message sent in the process had been clear: There was trouble brewing in Dallas. And the Lakers, in the end, were the ones who reaped the benefits.


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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#126 » by RiotPunch » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:04 am

HKPackFan wrote:
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HKPackFan wrote:I could see riot making a photo shop of the commish choking the mavs gm to force him to give away Luka for almost nothing.



Or even better jason kidd choking the gm forcing to give up Luka for nothing while Silver as a Mr burns or Palpatine smiling in the background as the evil mastermind.


This trade is downright BS. **** off NBA.

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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#127 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:08 am

raferfenix wrote:What team would say no to whatever Dallas offered?

Milwaukee, Denver and?

I don’t buy it.

Sam Amick:

league sources say there was at least one team besides the Lakers that was approached by Dallas nearly two weeks ago about the prospect of swapping Dončić for another star.

That bid was turned down, but the message sent in the process had been clear: There was trouble brewing in Dallas. And the Lakers, in the end, were the ones who reaped the benefits.


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6106343/2025/02/02/luka-doncic-trade-lakers-anthony-davis-alpha/


Milwaukee, Denver, OKC, and Minnesota are all I've got.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#128 » by AussieBuck » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:09 am

Legit the first time my young Tobes has flat out refused to believe a thing I told him in seriousness.

He's 12 and at least falls for **** briefly. Flat out wouldn't have it. "Come on Dad, you know I am going to check the news"
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#129 » by Ayt » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:09 am

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AussieBuck wrote:Even if you wanted to trade him, surely you'd shop him for 5 minutes and come away with a young gun and 6 firsts.


Yeah, no rumblings of this whatsover tells me they haven't been shopping him around very long, right? Someone somewhere would have leaked something. They traded away a 25 year old superstar for like a 2 year window?
There's gotta be some kind of corruption on this one. There's no way they couldn't have just called up OKC and gotten like 10 1sts and a young guy they like.

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They actually think they can compete for a title with AD.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#130 » by tedbrogen » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:13 am

Ayt wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
FrieAaron wrote:
Yeah, no rumblings of this whatsover tells me they haven't been shopping him around very long, right? Someone somewhere would have leaked something. They traded away a 25 year old superstar for like a 2 year window?
There's gotta be some kind of corruption on this one. There's no way they couldn't have just called up OKC and gotten like 10 1sts and a young guy they like.

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They actually think they can compete for a title with AD.


Then sell Luka to OKC for a ton of picks and someone the Lakers want and give the Lakers that guy and some of the picks. You get AD plus a bunch of picks.

Or at least extract every asset LAL has. They left a first, two young players, and a couple swaps on the table.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#131 » by raferfenix » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:14 am

Not to get political but the Adelson’s involvement is maximally shady.

DALLAS — Mark Cuban sees a future of NBA ownership where the advantages will be in real estate.

The high-profile billionaire says that’s why he sold his majority stake in the Dallas Mavericks to a pair of families with strong ties to the hotel and casino industry.

The NBA on Wednesday approved Cuban’s sale of a controlling interest in the Mavericks to the Adelson and Dumont families, who run Las Vegas Sands Corp.

The deal was approved just shy of a month since Miriam Adelson and Sivan and Patrick Dumont announced their intention to buy the club. The purchase is in the valuation range of $3.5 billion.

Patrick Dumont, Adelson’s son-in-law and president and chief operating officer of Las Vegas Sands, will serve as Mavericks governor. Adelson is the widow of casino magnate Sheldon Adelson.


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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#132 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:14 am

Just woke up and saw this thread.

At least now the Hawks can feel better about dealing the Luka pick to Dallas.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#133 » by Plossum » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:15 am

AussieBuck wrote:Legit the first time my young Tobes has flat out refused to believe a thing I told him in seriousness.

He's 12 and at least falls for **** briefly. Flat out wouldn't have it. "Come on Dad, you know I am going to check the news"

Please don’t forget his water in this heat.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#134 » by AussieBuck » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:20 am

Someone give me the script of how it went without there being non basketball stuff evening it up.

"We actually will offer up Luka to you, believe it or not"

"****. I mean, cool, I guess we could pivot there, spose we could offer AD and um, a young guy and a pick?"

"Deal my man! Good negotiating! We will gladly take the last 3 relevant AD years, some dude nobody will remember 5 years from now and just one pick for at worst the 5th most valuable guy in the world. This is a normal interaction."
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#135 » by AussieBuck » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:25 am

Plossum wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Legit the first time my young Tobes has flat out refused to believe a thing I told him in seriousness.

He's 12 and at least falls for **** briefly. Flat out wouldn't have it. "Come on Dad, you know I am going to check the news"

Please don’t forget his water in this heat.

This is good advice. My dude will run his tiny legs off and dehydrate frequently.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#136 » by raferfenix » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:25 am

Does Dallas get Jimmy now?

That team’s got a lot of centers and AD / Kyrie don’t have many years.

***and no there is no basketball justification for the Luka trade. Spitballing what’s next.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#137 » by RiotPunch » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:30 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Just woke up and saw this thread.

At least now the Hawks can feel better about dealing the Luka pick to Dallas.

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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#138 » by drew881 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:32 am

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Yea is literally stop watching entirely


Ray Allen for Gary Payton? I stopped for a while.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#139 » by RiotPunch » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:34 am

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BUCKnation wrote:Id be so done with the Bucks and the nba if we had traded giannis for like paul george 5 years ago

Yea is literally stop watching entirely


Ray Allen for Gary Payton? I stopped for a while.

I was just young enough to buy into Desmond Mason.
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Re: ATL - Luka+ for AD+ 

Post#140 » by tedbrogen » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:39 am

Is this the Mavs new owners tanking the team attendance/creating ill will to move the team to Vegas? Or the league talking the new owners into trade Luka to LAL in exchange for a massive payday from Vegas (and free new stadium) to move the team there?

Those are the only things that make sense here because any other way you look at the trade, it’s so bad the league commissioner should void it.

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