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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1441 » by fleet » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:43 pm

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All draft picks in the next 2 years need to be linemen on both sides of the ball.

Need a fast WR3, a RB, and a safety at some point. I would guess Ben wants that RB to be pretty good too. Swift didn’t get used when Ben had him in Detroit. Not a physical runner. While these positions are not as critical in terms of dire need, they will and should be addressed, and we can draft for those positions while we address the lines via free agency and the draft both.

And to add, the Bears have 2 TE right hit now, and nobody knows if they are good fits with this offense. Either the Bears need to sign another, or draft one to develop.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1442 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:50 pm

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All draft picks in the next 2 years need to be linemen on both sides of the ball.

Need a fast WR3, a RB, and a safety at some point. I would guess Ben wants that RB to be pretty good too. Swift didn’t get used when Ben had him in Detroit. Not a physical runner. While these positions are not as critical in terms of dire need, they will and should be addressed, and we can draft for those positions while we address the lines via free agency and the draft both.

And to add, the Bears have 2 TE right hit now, and nobody knows if they are good fits with this offense. Either the Bears need to sign another, or draft one to develop.


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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1443 » by nitetrain8603 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:14 pm

Myles Garrett just announced on social media that he has requested out. Bears need to pounce on this

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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1444 » by HoopsterJones » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:19 pm

nitetrain8603 wrote:Myles Garrett just announced on social media that he has requested out. Bears need to pounce on this

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Depends on what the Browns ask for. Myles Garrett turns 30 this year too.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1445 » by Betta Bulleavit » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:24 pm

IDC how old Garrett is. You go and get him!!
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1446 » by fleet » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:30 pm

Betta Bulleavit wrote:IDC how old Garrett is. You go and get him!!

If the Bears plan on winning next season, maybe you mortgage some youth in terms of draft picks. If not, we’ll be wasting more picks on old guys like Sweat not accomplishing much in terms of team goals. I think we’re still building, and still premature on moves like that.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1447 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:38 pm

According to Cronin, Poles is about to get a 5-year extension that will "align" him with BJ.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1448 » by Betta Bulleavit » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:41 pm

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Betta Bulleavit wrote:IDC how old Garrett is. You go and get him!!

If the Bears plan on winning next season, maybe you mortgage some youth in terms of draft picks. If not, we’ll be wasting more picks on old guys like Sweat not accomplishing much in terms of team goals. I think we’re still building, and still premature on moves like that.

I get that, and we’d definitely have to operate within reason. But Garret isn’t a normal dude. And when you consider that finding another guy to bookend Sweat has been something that we’ve wanted to do, I think it’d be worth the risk.

Additionally, you and I see this roster differently. I tend to think that this roster is closer to playoff ready than most people do. So that factors into my position as well.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1449 » by HoopsterJones » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:51 pm

This morning there was talk of Dennis Allen speaking very highly about Chase Young. Speculation is there that the Bears bring him in on a short term contract.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1450 » by nomorezorro » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:18 pm

i dunno why we'd care what some old baseball player thinks of chase young, much less a dead one
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1451 » by patryk7754 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:22 pm

With Myles Garret officially asking for a trade, we should put in a call. Most people probably think our roster isn't good enough for that type of trade, but I would disagree. We need 2-3 new starters on the OL (along with excellent coaching) and a pass rusher. The rest of our roster is mostly set with good to great talent, imo. With that being said, I think the draft capital needed would be to rich for my blood (but I would get over it pretty quick after watching Garret destroy the packers). If we do pursue a trade, I think it should be Trey Hendrickson. He'll be significantly easier to trade for (probably a 2nd) and he'll be cheaper meaning we can allocate money else where.

Personally, if I'm the Lions, I'm doing whatever it takes to get Garret on the roster.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1452 » by patryk7754 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:27 pm

HoopsterJones wrote:This morning there was talk of Dick Allen speaking very highly about Chase Young. Speculation is there that the Bears bring him in on a short term contract.

yea, I've seen a couple headlines linking Young to the bears. I think I'd prefer a Mack and Allen reunion. But, i'd be ok with either (or maybe even both?)
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1453 » by molepharmer » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:35 pm

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Betta Bulleavit wrote:IDC how old Garrett is. You go and get him!!

If the Bears plan on winning next season, maybe you mortgage some youth in terms of draft picks. If not, we’ll be wasting more picks on old guys like Sweat not accomplishing much in terms of team goals. I think we’re still building, and still premature on moves like that.

Tend to agree. Timing just doesn't seem right. Garrett is 29 and only under contract for two more years. He's going to want a $30mil contract when he turns 31. I doubt the Bears would want to spend that when they'll likely have more pressing needs. Not to mention the draft capital the Bears would likely have to give up during a trade (e.g. potentially three starter quality picks).
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1454 » by nomorezorro » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:40 pm

the lesson to be learned from clowney demanding a trade is that good players become available all the time, and the bears can totally afford to wait for a more sensible opportunity to give up draft assets for a "missing piece"
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1455 » by patryk7754 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:42 pm

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Depends on what the Browns ask for. Myles Garrett turns 30 this year too.

I imagine it would be something similar to what we sent to the raiders for Mack. Maybe a little less because I think Mack was younger. I think the three main things to consider (in this order) in a potential trade for Garrett

1. Have we more than adequately addressed the OL. 2-3 new starters and great depth, at the least.
2. What will the Browns be demanding (and how it might compare in a different trade. IE, would 2 1sts and a 2nd for Garret be better than a 2nd for Hendrickson or someone else)
3. Garrett's 2025 cap hit. According to SB Nation, his cap hit would be less than 5m with 18.6 being a roster bonus. (actully with this info, I think there is little to no reason not to trade for him. I think we have 60-70m in cap space right now. his 5m cap hit would be insignificant in addressing the rest of the roster and we have enough cap to make up for whatever picks we will be trading)
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1456 » by HoopsterJones » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:42 pm

nomorezorro wrote:i dunno why we'd care what some old baseball player thinks of chase young, much less a dead one


Got the name wrong. It’s Dennis Allen.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1457 » by patryk7754 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:44 pm

nomorezorro wrote:the lesson to be learned from clowney demanding a trade is that good players become available all the time, and the bears can totally afford to wait for a more sensible opportunity to give up draft assets for a "missing piece"

sure, good players become available all the time. But, how often are they players who are DPOY candidates every year and potentially a first ballot HOFer? not as often.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1458 » by patryk7754 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:44 pm

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nomorezorro wrote:i dunno why we'd care what some old baseball player thinks of chase young, much less a dead one


Got the name wrong. It’s Dennis Allen.

Apparently, he is a dick, tho.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1459 » by HoopsterJones » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:48 pm

patryk7754 wrote:
nomorezorro wrote:the lesson to be learned from clowney demanding a trade is that good players become available all the time, and the bears can totally afford to wait for a more sensible opportunity to give up draft assets for a "missing piece"

sure, good players become available all the time. But, how often are they players who are DPOY candidates every year and potentially a first ballot HOFer? not as often.


No doubt. Would love to have a talent like Myles Garrett on this team. He is better than any other player we have on the roster today. The cost of acquiring him is what gives me pause.
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Re: Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft 

Post#1460 » by Dresden » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:56 pm

If it's going to cost 2 FRP's and possibly a second, I'd say no. We need to keep building for the future with those picks and preserve our cap space.

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