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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1341 » by Archx » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:09 pm

I knew Grimes was probably gone but i don't agree with this at all... Grimes is a better defender on the perimeter something this team will badly need moving forward. How do you keep going with Kyrie/Dinwiddie backcourt, how dumb do you have to be?

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Post#1342 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:11 pm

I envy those who can still talk about basketball... you are strong people.
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Post#1343 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:12 pm

However... Grimes+SRP for Caleb Martin. Good move.

But we still need an alpha man... And we had him 2 day ago.
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Post#1344 » by Archx » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:17 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:However... Grimes+SRP for Caleb Martin. Good move.

But we still need an alpha man... And we had him 2 day ago.


You really think it was a good move? Man, i'm happy for you lol.
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Post#1345 » by joesha1698 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:26 pm

I'm not sure how I feel about the move but Caleb Martin has a little more grit than Grimes, imo. Martin (i believe, if my memory serves me ) was part of that Miami team that beat Boston some years back to go to the finals. He played tough defense and hit timely shots. I like his grit. I cannot say how I feel about this right now until I see him on the court. But from a salary perspective his last year is 27-28 and grimes wouldnt sign an extension. he fits into the kyrie/ad timeline that ends in 2028.


Note: He had a great game 7 vs Boston on the road in 23'. Like I said, I like his grit and I feel he plays a little more under control and more sure of himself than Grimes...but ultimately they wanted to get something for Grimes(comparable) because he wasn't gonna re-sign.

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Post#1346 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:29 pm

Archx wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:However... Grimes+SRP for Caleb Martin. Good move.

But we still need an alpha man... And we had him 2 day ago.


You really think it was a good move? Man, i'm happy for you lol.


I actually think Grimes is the better player...played lesa minutes,more points, better fg%...the only reason they did this trade is cause Martin is locked up while Grimes is a FA
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Post#1347 » by arkuo » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:33 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:
Archx wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:However... Grimes+SRP for Caleb Martin. Good move.

But we still need an alpha man... And we had him 2 day ago.


You really think it was a good move? Man, i'm happy for you lol.


I actually think Grimes is the better player...played lesa minutes,more points, better fg%...the only reason they did this trade is cause Martin is locked up while Grimes is a FA



I don't think it's about who's better. I think with Grimes being RFA, all it takes is one team to go pay him a bit more than what you want, then you're on the clock deciding if you want to match or have him walk for nothing.
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Post#1348 » by joesha1698 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:37 pm

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Archx wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:However... Grimes+SRP for Caleb Martin. Good move.

But we still need an alpha man... And we had him 2 day ago.


You really think it was a good move? Man, i'm happy for you lol.


I actually think Grimes is the better player...played lesa minutes,more points, better fg%...the only reason they did this trade is cause Martin is locked up while Grimes is a FA


Grimes is probably the more talented player...but there's a reason he's been on like 3 teams in his short career thus far. He's a little too unsure of himself at times which leads to the turnovers and bad defense. Martin is a gritter player and has shown that he can step up in big games. Overall, I'm satisfied and probably trust Martin a little more than Grimes as a gamer. Let's see what other moves Nico makes.

Note: One more thing that needs to be said. You need guys here under contract not playing for a contract. Sometimes when guys are playing for that contract they dont make the right pass or the right play all the time. This is also a contract move but also a culture one.
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Post#1349 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:39 pm

arkuo wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:
Archx wrote:
You really think it was a good move? Man, i'm happy for you lol.


I actually think Grimes is the better player...played lesa minutes,more points, better fg%...the only reason they did this trade is cause Martin is locked up while Grimes is a FA



I don't think it's about who's better. I think with Grimes being RFA, all it takes is one team to go pay him a bit more than what you want, then you're on the clock deciding if you want to match or have him walk for nothing.


I think Naji is gonna get traded too and one of the C's...the guard lineup is terrible
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Post#1350 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:45 pm

joesha1698 wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:
Archx wrote:
You really think it was a good move? Man, i'm happy for you lol.


I actually think Grimes is the better player...played lesa minutes,more points, better fg%...the only reason they did this trade is cause Martin is locked up while Grimes is a FA


Grimes is probably the more talented player...but there's a reason he's been on like 3 teams in his short career thus far. He's a little too unsure of himself at times which leads to the turnovers and bad defense. Martin is a gritter player and has shown that he can step up in big games. Overall, I'm satisfied and probably trust Martin a little more than Grimes as a gamer. Let's see what other moves Nico makes.

Note: One more thing that needs to be said. You need guys here under contract not playing for a contract. Sometimes when guys are playing for that contract they dont make the right pass or the right play all the time. This is also a contract move but also a culture one.


quote="Rich Michmond"]
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"I believe that defense wins championships"[/quote]

He was amazing for Dallas this year
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Post#1351 » by joesha1698 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:13 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:
joesha1698 wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:
I actually think Grimes is the better player...played lesa minutes,more points, better fg%...the only reason they did this trade is cause Martin is locked up while Grimes is a FA


Grimes is probably the more talented player...but there's a reason he's been on like 3 teams in his short career thus far. He's a little too unsure of himself at times which leads to the turnovers and bad defense. Martin is a gritter player and has shown that he can step up in big games. Overall, I'm satisfied and probably trust Martin a little more than Grimes as a gamer. Let's see what other moves Nico makes.

Note: One more thing that needs to be said. You need guys here under contract not playing for a contract. Sometimes when guys are playing for that contract they dont make the right pass or the right play all the time. This is also a contract move but also a culture one.


quote="Rich Michmond"]
zshawn10 wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=nTTEj4pYTl_o_im2gtZyQg

"I believe that defense wins championships"


He was amazing for Dallas this year[/quote]

Those stats are great. I still think he plays too unsure of himself at times. I saw what Martin did in a big series vs Boston. Not taking anything away from Grimes.
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Post#1352 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:21 pm

joesha1698 wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:
joesha1698 wrote:
Grimes is probably the more talented player...but there's a reason he's been on like 3 teams in his short career thus far. He's a little too unsure of himself at times which leads to the turnovers and bad defense. Martin is a gritter player and has shown that he can step up in big games. Overall, I'm satisfied and probably trust Martin a little more than Grimes as a gamer. Let's see what other moves Nico makes.

Note: One more thing that needs to be said. You need guys here under contract not playing for a contract. Sometimes when guys are playing for that contract they dont make the right pass or the right play all the time. This is also a contract move but also a culture one.


quote="Rich Michmond"]
zshawn10 wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=nTTEj4pYTl_o_im2gtZyQg

"I believe that defense wins championships"


He was amazing for Dallas this year


Those stats are great. I still think he plays too unsure of himself at times. I saw what Martin did in a big series vs Boston. Not taking anything away from Grimes.[/quote]

That was two years ago and he hasn't done it since
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Post#1353 » by Maverick41 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 10:50 pm

The biggest question going into the TDL is whether Dwight Powell will get traded or continue to stay as a Mav. My money is on staying. The fact that this guy has outlasted literally every Mavs player, including Luka, is wild :lol:
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Post#1354 » by HMFFL » Wed Feb 5, 2025 12:37 am

Mavs 'have dreams' of adding Kevin Durant

League sources say the Dallas Mavericks, fresh off their Luka Dončić-for-Anthony Davis swap that sent shockwaves through the Association, have dreams of adding Durant to their Davis-Kyrie Irving-led group. While the likelihood of Dallas pulling this off now appears unlikely, the mere idea of Durant joining Dallas’ star-studded group sheds new light on the thinking of Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison after he was roundly ridiculed for the Dončić deal. – via New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6113665/2025/02/04/kevin-durant-trade-rumors-suns-warriors-nba/

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Post#1355 » by GermanFan120 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 2:34 am

HMFFL wrote:Mavs 'have dreams' of adding Kevin Durant

League sources say the Dallas Mavericks, fresh off their Luka Dončić-for-Anthony Davis swap that sent shockwaves through the Association, have dreams of adding Durant to their Davis-Kyrie Irving-led group. While the likelihood of Dallas pulling this off now appears unlikely, the mere idea of Durant joining Dallas’ star-studded group sheds new light on the thinking of Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison after he was roundly ridiculed for the Dončić deal. – via New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6113665/2025/02/04/kevin-durant-trade-rumors-suns-warriors-nba/

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Post#1356 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 2:42 am

GermanFan120 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Mavs 'have dreams' of adding Kevin Durant

League sources say the Dallas Mavericks, fresh off their Luka Dončić-for-Anthony Davis swap that sent shockwaves through the Association, have dreams of adding Durant to their Davis-Kyrie Irving-led group. While the likelihood of Dallas pulling this off now appears unlikely, the mere idea of Durant joining Dallas’ star-studded group sheds new light on the thinking of Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison after he was roundly ridiculed for the Dončić deal. – via New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6113665/2025/02/04/kevin-durant-trade-rumors-suns-warriors-nba/

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Post#1357 » by wco81 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:29 am

HMFFL wrote:Mavs 'have dreams' of adding Kevin Durant

League sources say the Dallas Mavericks, fresh off their Luka Dončić-for-Anthony Davis swap that sent shockwaves through the Association, have dreams of adding Durant to their Davis-Kyrie Irving-led group. While the likelihood of Dallas pulling this off now appears unlikely, the mere idea of Durant joining Dallas’ star-studded group sheds new light on the thinking of Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison after he was roundly ridiculed for the Dončić deal. – via New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6113665/2025/02/04/kevin-durant-trade-rumors-suns-warriors-nba/

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He might have a better shot to acquire KD if he got a huge haul for Luka.

OTOH, Anthony Edwards said Luka is the best scorer in the NBA so why trade him away and now try to add a 36-year old scorer instead?
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Post#1358 » by Bob8 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 9:29 am

HMFFL wrote:Mavs 'have dreams' of adding Kevin Durant

League sources say the Dallas Mavericks, fresh off their Luka Dončić-for-Anthony Davis swap that sent shockwaves through the Association, have dreams of adding Durant to their Davis-Kyrie Irving-led group. While the likelihood of Dallas pulling this off now appears unlikely, the mere idea of Durant joining Dallas’ star-studded group sheds new light on the thinking of Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison after he was roundly ridiculed for the Dončić deal. – via New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6113665/2025/02/04/kevin-durant-trade-rumors-suns-warriors-nba/

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If they trade for KD, that means PJ/Gafford/Klay and all draft capital is gone. Basically changing Mavs in Suns in one week. And Suns apparently wanting out of that awful situation. After 2 years, Mavs will the worse team in the league for 10 years. Destruction of Mavs future in a week.
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Post#1359 » by Darren » Wed Feb 5, 2025 1:05 pm

GermanFan120 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Mavs 'have dreams' of adding Kevin Durant

League sources say the Dallas Mavericks, fresh off their Luka Dončić-for-Anthony Davis swap that sent shockwaves through the Association, have dreams of adding Durant to their Davis-Kyrie Irving-led group. While the likelihood of Dallas pulling this off now appears unlikely, the mere idea of Durant joining Dallas’ star-studded group sheds new light on the thinking of Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison after he was roundly ridiculed for the Dončić deal. – via New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6113665/2025/02/04/kevin-durant-trade-rumors-suns-warriors-nba/

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I think Butler, Isaac and Thybulle make way more sense now.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1360 » by Darren » Wed Feb 5, 2025 1:11 pm

I really don't think highly of a lineup featuring Kyrie-Klay-KD. The 3K lineup is not really better than previous lineup. Butler as a rental without giving out significant assets is a good one. The Mavs has only 3 months window anyway as a playin team. If the Mavs misses the playoff, they could still rebuild with a massive salary dump trade for Butler.

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