Official Scottie All Star Barnes Thread 9

GoRapstheoriginal · Post #341 » by **GoRapstheoriginal** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:57 pm

Hopefully a MONSTER game incoming from Barnes today.

Post #342 » by **HiJiNX** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:04 am

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The beauty of Scottie Barnes. Tells Dick to get out of the paint. Side screen action with Poeltl draws attention away from Walter on the weakside. Then he drives left to bring Harden toward him, knowing that would open up Walter and then delivers the pass for the dunk. All intentional. This is the stuff the stats doesn’t capture.

Post #343 » by **Duffman100** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:06 am

Really impressed by him lately. Steady effort, that mid range is reliable, seems like he's taking a leader role and people are giving him the ball.

MEDIC · Post #344 » by **MEDIC** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:40 am

If Scottie keeps this up, he might become my GROAT.

I like his all around game better than any previous star we have drafted.

6'8" Kyle Lowry

Scase · Post #345 » by **Scase** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:56 am

HiJiNX wrote:

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The beauty of Scottie Barnes. Tells Dick to get out of the paint. Side screen action with Poeltl draws attention away from Walter on the weakside. Then he drives left to bring Harden toward him, knowing that would open up Walter and then delivers the pass for the dunk. All intentional. This is the stuff the stats doesn’t capture.

Yeah that was beautiful, he made that decision the second he saw Harden hedging, this is the kind of play making no one else on the team brings, not all assists are created equal.

Raps in 4 · Post #346 » by **Raps in 4** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:13 am

Scase wrote:
HiJiNX wrote:

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The beauty of Scottie Barnes. Tells Dick to get out of the paint. Side screen action with Poeltl draws attention away from Walter on the weakside. Then he drives left to bring Harden toward him, knowing that would open up Walter and then delivers the pass for the dunk. All intentional. This is the stuff the stats doesn’t capture.

Yeah that was beautiful, he made that decision the second he saw Harden hedging, this is the kind of play making no one else on the team brings, not all assists are created equal.

There are very few players in the league with his playmaking instincts.

WuTang_CMB · Post #347 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 2:32 pm

Tf

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Post #348 » by **tsherkin** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 2:36 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Tf

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Bruin · Post #349 » by **Bruin** » Tue Feb 4, 2025 5:48 am

Crazy how similar their builds are. Great view of them next to each other

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFnkNFfvhAC/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

HumbleRen · Post #350 » by **HumbleRen** » Tue Feb 4, 2025 6:03 am

Bruin wrote:Crazy how similar their builds are. Great view of them next to each other

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFnkNFfvhAC/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Their upper half yeah. Kawhi got blessed with a proportionate body in terms of upper body and legs.

Scottie got cursed with tall ass legs lol, makes a lot. Makes a lot of his athleticism inaccessible.

Tripod · Post #351 » by **Tripod** » Tue Feb 4, 2025 1:14 pm

His stats are almost identical to last year pre-All Star game.

All Star 20.1pts, 8.1reb, 6asts, 1.5blk, 1.2stl
No Star 20.1pts, 8.1reb, 6.4asts, 0.9blk, 1.4stl

His efficiency is worse this year but it also took a hit playing with the bad ankle and broken face for a month.

And of course last year he had Siakam to draw more attention from teams vs RJ this year and OG as a shooter last year vs Gradey...or Ochai this year.

Given that it's the 1st time where he actually is expected to help lead, he has played very well. And he has been very good defensively since his ankle fully healed up.

Kingsway_fan · Post #352 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Tue Feb 4, 2025 4:04 pm

MEDIC wrote:If Scottie keeps this up, he might become my GROAT.

I like his all around game better than any previous star we have drafted.

6'8" Kyle Lowry

Yes.. THAT "star" .. the one who has taken this team to 5th worst record in the NBA... that type of "6'8" Lowry star".... lol... if Vince had HALF this level of talent around him back then, Raptors would be finals favorites... every year. VINCE WAS A Generational Superstar... Man, so glad I had seasons tickets then... what we have now is a joke ... putting lipstick on a pig ... lol

Scottie is a good player, but like Lowry, carried NO ONE. .. but hopefully with a top 5 pick, then next 'one' may facilitate that... leap...

TorontoBarneys · Post #353 » by **TorontoBarneys** » Tue Feb 4, 2025 4:09 pm

Tripod wrote:His stats are almost identical to last year pre-All Star game.

All Star 20.1pts, 8.1reb, 6asts, 1.5blk, 1.2stl
No Star 20.1pts, 8.1reb, 6.4asts, 0.9blk, 1.4stl

His efficiency is worse this year but it also took a hit playing with the bad ankle and broken face for a month.

And of course last year he had Siakam to draw more attention from teams vs RJ this year and OG as a shooter last year vs Gradey...or Ochai this year.

Given that it's the 1st time where he actually is expected to help lead, he has played very well. And he has been very good defensively since his ankle fully healed up.

He's better this year compared to last but it's not the major leap people hoped for. That's all. If he continues getting incrementally better year after year then it's still a very good outcome.

Post #354 » by **tsherkin** » Tue Feb 4, 2025 4:23 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:He's better this year compared to last but it's not the major leap people hoped for.

As a scorer, he isn't. He's considerably less efficient. Draw rate and 3pt rate have been the same, obviously the fall-off from 3 is a big issue. But he's still not getting to the rim enough. The improvement as a mid-range shooter is nice, but he's regressed in enough areas that he's under 54% TS, which is pretty bad, and definitely worse than last season. I guess it's a learning season and he's showcasing a new skill which we were asking for him to develop, but he's pretty objectively not better this year than last year. Offensive impact is, across the board, worse as well.

Once again, we find ourselves in a season where our greatest hope is next year with him. This feels like DeRozan all over again, where he's inching his way forward without huge improvement every year. There are some positives to take away from the season, but net improvement is not one of them at this point.

EDIT: The last few games have been really good, though, so we'll see how the rest of the season goes.

Basketball_Jones · Post #355 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:53 am

We seem to compete even when he’s not playing all that great. Imagine if he really took a leap forward in his offensive repertoire we’d be talking playoffs.

LoveMyRaps · Post #356 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:57 am

WuTang_OG wrote:Tf

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He tries way too hard to be different.

Raps in 4 · Post #357 » by **Raps in 4** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:58 am

Basketball_Jones wrote:We seem to compete even when he’s not playing all that great. Imagine if he really took a leap forward in his offensive repertoire we’d be talking playoffs.

A Scottie that is at or above league average TS% is a top-15 player.

Thaddy · Post #358 » by **Thaddy** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 7:31 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:We seem to compete even when he’s not playing all that great. Imagine if he really took a leap forward in his offensive repertoire we’d be talking playoffs.

A Scottie that is at or above league average TS% is a top-15 player.

There is no guarantee he gets to that level. He hasn't improved much if at all this year. I don't see the specialness with Barnes, we should be considering him tradeable for the right package.

Raps in 4 · Post #359 » by **Raps in 4** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 7:41 am

Thaddy wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:We seem to compete even when he’s not playing all that great. Imagine if he really took a leap forward in his offensive repertoire we’d be talking playoffs.

A Scottie that is at or above league average TS% is a top-15 player.

There is no guarantee he gets to that level. He hasn't improved much if at all this year. I don't see the specialness with Barnes, we should be considering him tradeable for the right package.

Agreed. Not only has he not shown abything special as a scorer, he's actually regressed this season. I still think there is potential for him to figure things out, but he's running out of time. He's going to be in his fifth season next year, and if by that point he hasn't figured it out, I think it's safe to say he probably never will.

He can still be a useful player without the ability to score efficiently, but that's a role player and this team needs a star.

RoteSchroder · Post #360 » by **RoteSchroder** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 7:56 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
Scase wrote:
HiJiNX wrote:

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The beauty of Scottie Barnes. Tells Dick to get out of the paint. Side screen action with Poeltl draws attention away from Walter on the weakside. Then he drives left to bring Harden toward him, knowing that would open up Walter and then delivers the pass for the dunk. All intentional. This is the stuff the stats doesn’t capture.

Yeah that was beautiful, he made that decision the second he saw Harden hedging, this is the kind of play making no one else on the team brings, not all assists are created equal.

There are very few players in the league with his playmaking instincts.

Damn, that was hella disappointing. I thought he made a Doncic-level eyes behind the head type of play based on your descriptions.

You guys are talking about how he ran a play at the top of the arc, drove 1-2 steps and passed to a painfully obvious wide open Ja’Kobe cutting to the basket right in front of him right?