Jaden Springer Appreciation Thread

[ConstableGeneva]

Agreed I was hopeful when he got here but I’m not appreciating his costing the team two draft picks to do close to nothing.

I do appreciate Brad recognizing when a miscalculation was made and cutting bait early instead of being prideful and just prolonging the inevitable.

[itrsteve]

Farewell good sir.

Glad he got a VC on the way out, name etched in RGM history forever.

[Hal14]

Have to chalk it up as an L for Brad and the FO to give a (good) 2nd rounder for him, get basically nothing, and then pay a (seemingly not good) 2nd to dump him.

Eh, idk about that.

We traded the 41st pick for Springer. I wouldn't call that a good 2nd rounder. The hit rate is so low on 2nd round picks, it might be reaching to call any of them "good".

If I was going to call any 2nd rounder a good 2nd rounder, it would be a one that's in the first 3-5 picks of the 2nd round...*maybe* if I'm being generous it would be one of the first 10 picks of the 2nd round. But calling it a "good 2nd rounder" when it's not even one of the first 10 picks in the 2nd round is a reach imo.

Not to mention that we've accumulated a million 2nd round picks over the past few yrs so losing these 2 2nd rounders is no big deal.

Especially on a team as deep and talented as the Celtics, any guy we use a 2nd round pick on (especially one that deep into the 2nd round) is a long shot to contribute anything.

It was certainly worth the gamble to take a flier on Springer, a former 1st round pick (who many felt was a a lottery level talent) already had 2.5 years of NBA experience but was still very young at age 21 rather than taking some guy in the mid 2nd round with no NBA experience who would probably not contribute anything anyways.

IMO, only way this ends up being an L is if Springer ends up becoming a really good player somewhere else in the next year or 2 and then we're all wishing that Brad kept him.

Not an L imo if a guy doesn't contribute much when all it took was a mid to late 2nd rounder or 2 to get/move him since picks that late in the draft rarely hit anyways.

Also, we do not win that Clippers game without Springer. He could've helped us win more games than that - Joe didn't play him, though. There was lots of games where an opposing guard was going off and we could've used Springer in there for a few mins to slow him down (losses this season vs CLE, OKC and Sixers on xmas, etc) so it's not really fair to give Brad an L when Joe is the one who didn't play him more. Perhaps partly Joe's fault, but might simply be the reality of having such a deep/talented roster that some guys just don't play as much.

And while we can't tell for sure, my guess is that he brought a lot of defensive intensity to practice to help push Tatum, Brown, Hauser, Pritchard, Jrue and White to become better offensive players.

Lastly, we get a $4mil TPE with the trade so let's wait and see if Brad ends up using that prior to the trade deadline..he might scoop up a pretty good player and then this won't look like an L for Brad.

[djFan71]

The worst part is validating smug Nick Nurse. I'd pay a few more 2nds for that not to have happened.

[Red2]

I really liked springer and thought he should have played more. I hate the salary rules. Hope we can pick up someone who can help

[50yrceltsfan]

The fact that it's a 2030 2nd rounder depreciates the cost to about zero, there's 5 other drafts between now and that one. So this was Brad doing ownership a favor and saving $15m on a guy that plays once a month.

[ConstableGeneva]

Brad doesn't miss and can do no wrong. So whatever happened here is a mistake by someone else entirely.

[brackdan70]

Part of me is disappointed, but 16 million$ is not nothing.

[Gant]

The Celtics took a low risk gamble on Springer which did not pay off. He made more money than he was worth so they moved him. Maybe he'll succeed in the future sometime as he's a pitbull on D.

It opens a roster spot, which gives everybody a tantalizing few hours of extra entertainment.

I'm 99% convinced Springer would not have been acquired had he not blocked Tatum's shot that time.

Watch on YouTube

[Parliament10]

Read on Twitter

I was just starting to Appreciate the Kid. Gotta Respect his lock-down Defense.
Farewell, young fella.

2 Open Roster Spots. We gotta fill at least one, pretty soon.
We could Start doing 10-Days with our Current Maine Squad?

Lonnie Walker
Drew Peterson

[return2glory]

Sucks, gave up on young talent because we overpaid some of our starters. Springer was one of few players on this team that gave max effort when he got the rare chance to play.

Springer was good as gone because the team didn't want to take that tax hit. They don't even know who the owners are going to be.

[return2glory]

We need a wing off the bench in a big way. Only way Brad can make up for this is get back Lonnie.

[bisme37]

Respect to Jaden for always playing his butt off. Best of luck to the homie.

[ParticleMan]

Jaden seemed like a good hardworking dude but it was physically hurtful seeing him on offense.
Would love to pick up a solid vet from a rebuilding team with that trade exception.
If not, i guess LWIV is fine tho i'm not too high on that guy.

[31to6]

Shhh.... Jordan Mickey.... don't tell.

when does the Jordan Mickey embargo end??

I feel like someone squealed about Springer. And then teams asked for him in trades, and we had to send a SRP with him

[31to6]

I'd never asked if a Boston Celtic was even any good at basketball until I'd watched Jaden on offense for a while. I do not think he would light up my rec league team. He'd get into the paint, plant, pivot, and ... possibly score. But maybe not.

Then he won me over with like 10 minutes of the elite defense we knew he had, and I said hooray, we've moved from 2 2nds to get rid of him to just 1.

Seemed like a good young man and I wish him well as he ventures out to infuse his championship DNA into the Houston Rockets.

[cloverleaf]

Let's hope the young man is put on the Nesmith plan with his new team.

[redslastlaugh]

Have to chalk it up as an L for Brad and the FO to give a (good) 2nd rounder for him, get basically nothing, and then pay a (seemingly not good) 2nd to dump him.

Eh, idk about that.

We traded the 41st pick for Springer. I wouldn't call that a good 2nd rounder. The hit rate is so low on 2nd round picks, it might be reaching to call any of them "good".

It’s a moot point by now, but there were several draftees who’d be really useful that we could have drafted

Adem Bona
Nikola Djurisic
Pelle Larsson
Jamal Shead
Cam Christie

Those were 5/6 players drafted starting from pick #41, what we gave up for Springer. Anyone one of those players would be useful for us on a minimum and all of them would have gotten us a 2nd if we wanted to trade out, not cost us additional picks to dump like Springer. In particular Jamal Shead had 12pts/3reb/9assts of the bench for the Raps last night and looks like a nice cost controlled guard depth piece.

Totally moot, spent cost at this point. But I don’t like wasting picks and you can’t just say well #41 is not “good” pick anyway… after all, literally Nikola Jokic was a #41 pick.

[Hal14]

It’s a moot point by now, but there were several draftees who’d be really useful that we could have drafted

Adem Bona
Nikola Djurisic
Pelle Larsson
Jamal Shead
Cam Christie

Those were 5/6 players drafted starting from pick #41, what we gave up for Springer. Anyone one of those players would be useful for us on a minimum and all of them would have gotten us a 2nd if we wanted to trade out, not cost us additional picks to dump like Springer. In particular Jamal Shead had 12pts/3reb/9assts of the bench for the Raps last night and looks like a nice cost controlled guard depth piece.

Totally moot, spent cost at this point. But I don’t like wasting picks and you can’t just say well #41 is not “good” pick anyway… after all, literally Nikola Jokic was a #41 pick.

There's literally zero evidence that any of those players would have done anything on this celtics squad. All got picked later than Schierman, who is in Maine all season.

Schead is the only one who has done anything in the NBA so far and he's on a Toronto team that's one of the worst in the league, has no guard depth, Quickley has been injured a lot so of course Shead is able to get some playing time. He'd likely be in Maine all season if he was in Boston, just like Scheierman is.

Again, the hit rate on picks in the 41-60 range is very low. They're throw away picks. Very rate for them to end up being a good player - and it's even more rare for them to end up being a good player for a team as good as the Celtics are.

Jokic is an outlier, a 1 in a million case. And Jokic was drafted 11 years ago. That was a lifetime ago. You simply don't see players that good getting drafted that late these days.

Brad still drafted 2 guys in the 2024 draft (Scheierman, Watson) which is more than he selected in any of the previous 3 drafts since he took over as POBO - in each of those first 3 drafts, he only drafted 1 player.

So there's no way he was gonna draft 3 guys from in the same draft. One of those picks was going to get traded - if not more. And he saw a chance to take a flier on a really good athlete with high defensive potential who had already been developing on another team's dime for 2.5 years so he went for it.

[cloverleaf]

I think the C's have been borrowing Matt Groh for their drafts the last 4 or 5 years anyway.