Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Giannis Thoughts on Middleton Trade Page 90

slos · Post #1821 » by **slos** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 10:54 pm

Looking at younger distressed assets, maybe Grant is a target at this point.

Brook + Pat + 2025 WAS SRP for Grant + Reath

Lillard/Green/Wright
Jackson/Trent/Marjon
Kuzma/Prince/Baldwin
Grant/Bobby/Livingston
Giannis/Reath/Smith

If the plan is turning Giannis into a full time C, I guess it's a more viable option pairing him with two big forwards at all times.

tedbrogen · Post #1822 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 10:56 pm

Prez wrote:Feels likely that we make one small move for a whatever player like Cody Martin or something and that’s it.

I mean, there also the argument that shipping out four or five more guys leads to massive chemistry issues (that Doc won’t be quick to remedy) when really the ten had a couple months of being top 10 in O and D before the point of attack and wing D starting getting them shredded again.

So a couple of smaller moves involving bench players (sorry Midds IS a bench player) to give them younger athletic guys might stabilize things to get back to the nice run they were on.

Martin would be a solid guy to help D up 2s and 3s. You hope his 3P% goes up with Dame/Giannis gravity.

RiotPunch · Post #1823 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 10:57 pm

MKE: Gafford, Marshall, Martin, Exum
DAL: Lopez, Wright, MKE '31 2nd
CHA: Connaughton, Beauchamp, 2nd via WAS

tedbrogen · Post #1824 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 10:58 pm

slos wrote:Looking at younger distressed assets, maybe Grant is a target at this point.

Brook + Pat + 2025 WAS SRP for Grant + Reath

Lillard/Green/Wright
Jackson/Trent/Marjon
Kuzma/Prince/Baldwin
Grant/Bobby/Livingston
Giannis/Reath/Smith

If the plan is turning Giannis into a full time C, I guess it's a more viable option pairing him with two big forwards at all times.

Blazers might be down with that as a way to get out of Grant’s deal almost immediately.

tedbrogen · Post #1825 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:01 pm

Licensed to Il wrote:I could see Giannis asking out as early as this summer. Not that he’s a quitter or a front runner, but I see no path to him winning another title here. From the minute we hired Griffin, everything has turned to poop. I want to be more optimistic, but we’re not good enough as is, and have no legit avenue to getting better.

If they don’t at least get to a tightly contested ECSF, I think they ship out Dame and try to use the new found financial flexibility to retool around Giannis.

Unless Dame looks absolutely terrible in the playoffs, he’ll still have trade value because he’d only have two years left on his deal.

FrieAaron · Post #1826 » by **FrieAaron** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:02 pm

Licensed to Il wrote:I could see Giannis asking out as early as this summer. Not that he’s a quitter or a front runner, but I see no path to him winning another title here. From the minute we hired Griffin, everything has turned to poop. I want to be more optimistic, but we’re not good enough as is, and have no legit avenue to getting better.

As long as Giannis is Giannis we have a path. Getting the MVP-caliber player is the hardest part.

SupremeHustle · Post #1827 » by **SupremeHustle** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:03 pm

Bobby and Pat for Duren and THJ.

I'm just trying to help you, Horst.

tedbrogen · Post #1828 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:05 pm

FrieAaron wrote:
Licensed to Il wrote:I could see Giannis asking out as early as this summer. Not that he’s a quitter or a front runner, but I see no path to him winning another title here. From the minute we hired Griffin, everything has turned to poop. I want to be more optimistic, but we’re not good enough as is, and have no legit avenue to getting better.

As long as Giannis is Giannis we have a path. Getting the MVP-caliber player is the hardest part.

Top two player in the world who last time he was healthy in the playoffs almost single handedly carried them to the finals (and probably would have beaten GSW by himself).

Bernman · Post #1829 » by **Bernman** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:06 pm

Licensed to Il wrote:I could see Giannis asking out as early as this summer. Not that he’s a quitter or a front runner, but I see no path to him winning another title here. From the minute we hired Griffin, everything has turned to poop. I want to be more optimistic, but we’re not good enough as is, and have no legit avenue to getting better.

That should tarnish his legacy in Milwaukee because he influenced the Griffin hire, which led to Doc's. And multiple player moves that had questionable results he had input in too.

He can't then bounce immediately after they don't work out. Can at least put in a couple more years, seeing out Dame being washed too, before jumping ship. Wouldn't hold it against him if he wanted out after '27-'28 or so.

Licensed to Il · Post #1830 » by **Licensed to Il** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:08 pm

I definitely don’t want to lose Giannis. I just feel like we’re almost in the ballpark of contending… but the ballpark is in the rear view mirror and we’re driving towards Brookfield.

drew881 · Post #1831 » by **drew881** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:10 pm

PG Graveyard wrote:Lol at reading anything at all into Giannis comments there. Although I hope the Nets read it the same way and trade Cam Johnson to us for the 2031 pick now

The pick that is now watered down?

RRyder823 · Post #1832 » by **RRyder823** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:13 pm

drew881 wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:Lol at reading anything at all into Giannis comments there. Although I hope the Nets read it the same way and trade Cam Johnson to us for the 2031 pick now

The pick that is now watered down?

it was a pick we swaped with Portland that got watered down. Not 31

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JEIS · Post #1833 » by **JEIS** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:13 pm

We might get Jimmy Butler for scraps, unless the Suns give up KD.

drew881 · Post #1834 » by **drew881** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:14 pm

RRyder823 wrote:
drew881 wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:Lol at reading anything at all into Giannis comments there. Although I hope the Nets read it the same way and trade Cam Johnson to us for the 2031 pick now

The pick that is now watered down?

it was a pick we swaped with Portland that got watered down. Not 31

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Oh ok. Did not know that.

Post #1835 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:17 pm

Brook is playing tonight

randy84 · Post #1836 » by **randy84** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:17 pm

Licensed to Il wrote:I could see Giannis asking out as early as this summer. Not that he’s a quitter or a front runner, but I see no path to him winning another title here. From the minute we hired Griffin, everything has turned to poop. I want to be more optimistic, but we’re not good enough as is, and have no legit avenue to getting better.

If Giannis is going to ask out, then the Bucks should've taken the Luka deal.

mcfromage · Post #1837 » by **mcfromage** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:21 pm

I wouldn't hate Grant but he's been worsening and his contract is ugly.

Baddy Chuck · Post #1838 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:24 pm

Bobby, Pat and the first for Cam Johnson **** it.

Expecting no follow ups.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #1839 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:24 pm

RiotPunch wrote:MKE: Gafford, Marshall, Martin, Exum
DAL: Lopez, Wright, MKE '31 2nd
CHA: Connaughton, Beauchamp, 2nd via WAS

I like it, I'm not sure Dallas bites on that with Lively out but maybe they would? I think it checks a lot of boxes for us.

SirChurros · Post #1840 » by **SirChurros** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:29 pm

fansinceforever wrote:
SirChurros wrote:
fansinceforever wrote:Is the correct response to totally ignore that quote...?

I mean… kind of?

What do you really expect to get out of a quote like that other than what he said? Were you expecting something different?

It’s a pretty run-of-the-mill quote for a scenario where a guy you’ve played with forever gets traded. Nothing shocking or out of the ordinary.

When your franchise player directly eludes to his eventual exit from the team, I'd say that warrants conversation on a Bucks forum. It's not a code red scenario but its not nothing either.

That’s how you’re interpreting it. “Until I dip,” could also mean retire.