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Around the NBA (Part Two)

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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#821 » by minimus » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:41 pm

Guest84 wrote:Question...Shrink, this might be for you.

I heard on TNT that since Luka got traded, he's no longer eligible for the supermax deal even though he met the qualifications for it. Is this valid?

Candance Parker stated that this might be a way for teams to get out of paying the supermax and that it might be something that will need to be addressed with the next CBA.

Has Luka played enough games to be eligible for the supermax?

Also once traded he can't sign supermax deal.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#822 » by Klomp » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:43 pm

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Guest84 wrote:Question...Shrink, this might be for you.

I heard on TNT that since Luka got traded, he's no longer eligible for the supermax deal even though he met the qualifications for it. Is this valid?

Candance Parker stated that this might be a way for teams to get out of paying the supermax and that it might be something that will need to be addressed with the next CBA.

Has Luka played enough games to be eligible for the supermax?

Also once traded he can't sign supermax deal.

I believe he had already done enough to qualify for the supermax. He was definitely eligible before but is no longer.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#823 » by Klomp » Wed Feb 5, 2025 5:51 pm

The "supermax" being discussed here is the Designated Veteran Extension:

7 or 8 years of service when extension signed; 1 or 2 years remaining on contract; with same team continuously (unless traded during first four years in the league); meets Designated Veteran Player 35% Max Criteria

And here are the criteria:

At least one of the following must be true:
The player was named to the All-NBA First, Second or Third team in the most recent season, or both of the two seasons that preceded the most recent season.
The player was named the Defensive Player of the Year in the most recent season, or both of the two seasons that preceded the most recent season.
The player was named the NBA Most Valuable Player in any of the three most recent seasons.

Bolded is what would have qualified him previously. Underlined is what disqualified him.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm (from 23 and 24)
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#824 » by Slim Tubby » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:44 pm

Guest84 wrote:Question...Shrink, this might be for you.

I heard on TNT that since Luka got traded, he's no longer eligible for the supermax deal even though he met the qualifications for it. Is this valid?

Candance Parker stated that this might be a way for teams to get out of paying the supermax and that it might be something that will need to be addressed with the next CBA.
The trade by DAL literally cost Doncic $116M...straight up.

Not only did this trade save money and cap space for DAL, it did exactly the same for the Lakers.

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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#825 » by Guest84 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 7:17 pm

Slim Tubby wrote:
Guest84 wrote:Question...Shrink, this might be for you.

I heard on TNT that since Luka got traded, he's no longer eligible for the supermax deal even though he met the qualifications for it. Is this valid?

Candance Parker stated that this might be a way for teams to get out of paying the supermax and that it might be something that will need to be addressed with the next CBA.
The trade by DAL literally cost Doncic $116M...straight up.

Not only did this trade save money and cap space for DAL, it did exactly the same for the Lakers.

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I heard that too and that's wild. A secret deal with no other teams involved that saved both teams $116 mil. Not to mention I heard that this deal also allows LA to be able to bring in another max player as well. How is this not considered shady? Legal loophole I'm sure but wow.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#826 » by shrink » Wed Feb 5, 2025 7:45 pm

It’s true. In general, if you stay with your own team, your max deal can include an extra 5% of the salary cap. When Luka signs his next max deal with the Lakers, it won’t be for the $345 for five years that DAL would have owed him.

The rule was designed as an incentive to get stars to stay with the markets that drafted them, rather than sign a big contract, then demand a trade to a destination they liked better. But GMs can make trades too, so …!
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#827 » by TimberKat » Wed Feb 5, 2025 8:23 pm

Guest84 wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:
Guest84 wrote:Question...Shrink, this might be for you.

I heard on TNT that since Luka got traded, he's no longer eligible for the supermax deal even though he met the qualifications for it. Is this valid?

Candance Parker stated that this might be a way for teams to get out of paying the supermax and that it might be something that will need to be addressed with the next CBA.
The trade by DAL literally cost Doncic $116M...straight up.

Not only did this trade save money and cap space for DAL, it did exactly the same for the Lakers.

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I heard that too and that's wild. A secret deal with no other teams involved that saved both teams $116 mil. Not to mention I heard that this deal also allows LA to be able to bring in another max player as well. How is this not considered shady? Legal loophole I'm sure but wow.

I think that rule was put in so Star players has more incentive to stay with current team. For situation where Luka wants out but still get the supermax so no incentive to stay. Let's call that the Butler rule. I think they just need to fix the tax so "super part" don't count towards cap. Then is fair to both sides. If Luka really wanted the Super extension, he should stay in shape but I don't know if Mavs had the balls to tell him. It sucked for Luka but overall is a good rule I believe.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#828 » by Slim Tubby » Wed Feb 5, 2025 8:45 pm

TimberKat wrote:
Guest84 wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:The trade by DAL literally cost Doncic $116M...straight up.

Not only did this trade save money and cap space for DAL, it did exactly the same for the Lakers.

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I heard that too and that's wild. A secret deal with no other teams involved that saved both teams $116 mil. Not to mention I heard that this deal also allows LA to be able to bring in another max player as well. How is this not considered shady? Legal loophole I'm sure but wow.

I think that rule was put in so Star players has more incentive to stay with current team. For situation where Luka wants out but still get the supermax so no incentive to stay. Let's call that the Butler rule. I think they just need to fix the tax so "super part" don't count towards cap. Then is fair to both sides. If Luka really wanted the Super extension, he should stay in shape but I don't know if Mavs had the balls to tell him. It sucked for Luka but overall is a good rule I believe.
You make a good point about the Super Max. Teams with top players are almost being held hostage by the results of an arbitrary vote for the three (3) All NBA teams.

I'd fully support the difference of the Super Max contract not being assessed towards the Cap or affiliated Aprons.

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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#829 » by younggunsmn » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:47 pm

Anthony Davis's contract is kinda gross too with his injury history, he's owed 62 and 66 million at ages 34 and 35.

Luka Doncic is in his 7th season, so he will still be eligible for a 35% after his 10th season, which would be starting in '28-'29.
So he will essentially miss out on the supermax for 2 seasons worth of pay.
If he signs an extension, I expect he would sign a shorter one now that gives him an opt-out in '28-29 so he can get the 35% max he deserves.

Just a brutally awful trade.
Only the Herschel Walker deal even comes close.

KAT for Randle/DDV is a similar disaster just on a smaller scale.
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Post#830 » by younggunsmn » Wed Feb 5, 2025 11:54 pm

Kings adding Valanciunas was a really good move his physicality will really help them off the bench.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#831 » by Norseman79 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 12:03 am

younggunsmn wrote:Kings adding Valanciunas was a really good move his physicality will really help them off the bench.


Assuming they don't start him and kick Sabonis to the power forward.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#832 » by winforlose » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:26 am

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Jimmy left Minnesota because of Wiggins, now he went to GSW in place of Wiggins.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#833 » by Loaf_of_bread » Thu Feb 6, 2025 3:36 am

Geez, GSW extended Jbutler. They will regret that.

Who will knock out who first.. jimmy or d green?

Ill vote jimmy, but who knows.. warriors dynasty is officially over.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#834 » by Neeva » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:22 am

Lol at least I now know Buttler will never get a ring.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#835 » by MN7725 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:47 am

Other than KD, Curry hasn't really played with anyone who could create/score/playmake at such a high level, could see Curry blow up
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#836 » by TimberKat » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:19 am

Over and under for Butler stop showing up at GSW games - 2nd game of 2025-2026 season.

Over and under for Green/Butler alteration at practice - game 65 of this season.

Over and under for when GSW regrets this trade - 1st week after all star break.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#837 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:26 am

With the Bulls extending Ball, the Raptors trading Brown, and along with our win tonight, I feel like the likelihood of us making a significant trade has fallen dramatically. Walker Kessler, save me?
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#838 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:31 am

Interesting. KAT, Wiggins and LaVine have all been traded this season.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#839 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:42 am

Klomp wrote:With the Bulls extending Ball, the Raptors trading Brown, and along with our win tonight, I feel like the likelihood of us making a significant trade has fallen dramatically. Walker Kessler, save me?

I forgot, my final hope is Atlanta...
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#840 » by Loaf_of_bread » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:07 am

MN7725 wrote:Other than KD, Curry hasn't really played with anyone who could create/score/playmake at such a high level, could see Curry blow up


Gsw too short, no depth. May not make play-in.

Green/butler... now that will be interesting.

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