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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 7 - It’s about to go down

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 7 - It’s about to go down 

Post#901 » by twix2500 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:45 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Interesting information is we are only 2.5 million away from getting out of 1st apron and 8 million away from getting out of tax all together. At this rate I don’t think we’ll be able to shave off Anderson’s contract completely without giving up assets which we will not but could be a chance to trade for less money coming back to get out of the 1st apron. The 1st apron rules kick in when 7 million over the tax line. Originally the Raptors were going to just take him as a asset free addition using there TPE. That looks like it fell through with them agreeing to Ingram deal.


The gamble u take asking team to not make things official until all moving parts are finalized.
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Post#902 » by inspired4fr33 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:48 pm

Yall justify this all you want but its trash and the position this team is at sucks. Riley really needs to step down and this team needs to be blown up Herro gotta go and even Bam for a haul of picks. That's reality. We need to load up for the future future. Luka about to own the league, Giannis SGA Wemby those guys are gonna dominate once Bron KD Steph retire. We have no mega star piece and even Fox wasnt that. We need a STAR. I'm tired of this.
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Post#903 » by Pokuokic » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:52 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Pokuokic wrote:What about THT he's ELITE getting to the rim huge body and a 6*5 like 250 guard with excellent handle not much chance on the Bulls but played well in Utah he's only making 2mil

We need more of another pick and roll ball handler. Someone that can control pace and settle the team down into some good offense. Malcolm Brogden is ideal

I agree I have been calling for Brogdan before the Dame situation went down but it seems kind of hard to get him imo there should be a number of teams trying to get him where as guys like THT or the brother of Tyus Jones are very gettsble
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Post#904 » by Bishop45 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:57 pm

Hope new additions come in before or by Monday's gm
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Post#905 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:00 pm

twix2500 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Interesting information is we are only 2.5 million away from getting out of 1st apron and 8 million away from getting out of tax all together. At this rate I don’t think we’ll be able to shave off Anderson’s contract completely without giving up assets which we will not but could be a chance to trade for less money coming back to get out of the 1st apron. The 1st apron rules kick in when 7 million over the tax line. Originally the Raptors were going to just take him as a asset free addition using there TPE. That looks like it fell through with them agreeing to Ingram deal.


The gamble u take asking team to not make things official until all moving parts are finalized.

They will make a move today that atleast gets them out of the 1st apron rules to stay flexible to see who shakes free in the buyout market. Anderson and Burks will get shopped around for a player making less. Elisburg almost got Mick that get out of jail free card masterclass if the Raps agreed to absorb Anderson.
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Post#906 » by DBurks2818 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:01 pm

Is Anderson being rerouted to Detroit or not?
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Post#907 » by SA37 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:02 pm

MartyConlonJr wrote:Not sure how the Warriors experiment will go. I definitely respect what Jimmy does, but what is their ceiling in terms of playoff position?

Can they realistically catch OKC, Memphis, Houston, Denver, or Lakers, when they are 5 games behind with 32 to go? Even if Lakers were a .500 squad rest of the way they are 46-36. GSW would need to go 21-11 (.656). That next tier of Minnesota and Clippers, a .500 record gets you 44-38, so Warriors would need to go 19-13 (.593). And that is all assuming those top 7 seeds play at a .500 level, which is below what they are playing now.

Then you have Dallas, who while they are now sans Luka, have been without him most of the season, 14-14 without him, 12-11 with. So now you add AD to that mix, they should improve. Add in Spurs who are 2 games behind Warriors but now have Fox, without give much up of consequence from the current roster to do it. They could be in the race too.

Really the Warriors have a lot of competition, or need to perform at a high rate in the regular season (not Jimmy's forte), to get beyond 8th seed, and it is still possible they struggle to stay out of play in.

The East is unlikely to have that run to the finish line, and so it is likely that if Warriors are the 8th seed or so, they may still have a better record than maybe 2-3 east playoff teams. That pick could very easily be 17th or better, and possibly if they miss the playoffs, that 11-14 is really in play. Part of me thinks if it conveys in such a strong year and with our ability to draft in that range, that is a big get.


Houston and Memphis are ultra vulnerable at the top. Nobody wants to play Golden St in rd 1. Injuries are likely an X factor in the West.
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Post#908 » by fincane30 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:04 pm

inspired4fr33 wrote:Yall justify this all you want but its trash and the position this team is at sucks. Riley really needs to step down and this team needs to be blown up Herro gotta go and even Bam for a haul of picks. That's reality. We need to load up for the future future. Luka about to own the league, Giannis SGA Wemby those guys are gonna dominate once Bron KD Steph retire. We have no mega star piece and even Fox wasnt that. We need a STAR. I'm tired of this.


How exactly are you going to acquire this star without contracts to trade and players that you won't trade that the star wants to play with? Is your plan to bottom out and hope to select players in the draft that turn into all-star level players to attract that franchise changing star. No star wants to come play with recently drafted players who are unproven. So now the plan is to hope your draft picks turn into viable championship pieces 3-4 years from the time they're drafted. Wait aren't there are already two all star level players on the roster?
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Post#909 » by Pokuokic » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:07 pm

With the Bulls keeping Lonzo and most likely looking like they want Giddy I would make a offer for Ayo he'd be great as a PG next to Tyler.

Ayo
Tyler
Wiggins
Bam
Ware

Probably the most athletic line up Heat have had since since the Waiters lead squad?
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Post#910 » by Moneyball_Spo » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:10 pm

I'm glad its over. Now I can't wait to see the fireworks at GS. They are out of the play ins at the moment. Regular season Jimmy is not playoff Jimmy. Can't wait to see Draymond and Jimmy go at it. Sit back boys and relax. Miami will be fine.
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Post#911 » by eddieheatfan » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:10 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Hope new additions come in before or by Monday's gm
this team needs a player that makes the other players better. herro is trying to be that guy but i have doubts that if he will even be that guy.

we need a true star that score bunch of points when the team goes through scoring droughts. tyler is trying his best to be that guy. other than that i could see wiggings as "pj brown" type of player because of his athleticism but i am not expecting any miracles from him. he is a decent role player and it depends in how spo is going to use him which adds another element to the whole thing.


as of now we are still a .500 team but with less baggage now that butler is out of the picture
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Post#912 » by SA37 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:10 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Interesting information is we are only 2.5 million away from getting out of 1st apron and 8 million away from getting out of tax all together. At this rate I don’t think we’ll be able to shave off Anderson’s contract completely without giving up assets which we will not but could be a chance to trade for less money coming back to get out of the 1st apron. The 1st apron rules kick in when 7 million over the tax line. Originally the Raptors were going to just take him as a asset free addition using there TPE. That looks like it fell through with them agreeing to Ingram deal.


From ESPN:

The Miami Heat are working through a resolution with Kyle Anderson, after the portion of the multiteam megadeal that would have sent him to the Toronto Raptors fell through, sources told ESPN's Shams Charania.
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Post#913 » by greg4012 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:11 pm

Cmon_Son-_- wrote:Beal and 3 FRPs > Wiggins, PJ Tucker and 1 FRP. They prioritized tax savings over asset building. Wiggins and Beal's contracts come off the books at the same time.


Can move Wiggins contract at the drop of a hat. Would be tied to paying Beal $50M+ per year through 2027 with no wiggle room or out.

The 3 first from PHX are the most watered down first possible. I'd bet none will be better than in the 20s.
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Post#914 » by eddieheatfan » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:11 pm

Pokuokic wrote:With the Bulls keeping Lonzo and most likely looking like they want Giddy I would make a offer for Ayo he'd be great as a PG next to Tyler.

Ayo
Tyler
Wiggins
Bam
Ware

Probably the most athletic line up Heat have had since since the Waiters lead squad?
we need a true PG thats for sure
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Post#915 » by Cmon_Son-_- » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:14 pm

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Cmon_Son-_- wrote:Beal and 3 FRPs > Wiggins, PJ Tucker and 1 FRP. They prioritized tax savings over asset building. Wiggins and Beal's contracts come off the books at the same time.


Those 3 FRP are at the bottom of the first round. Almost 2nd round picks. Heat got a top 10 protected pick.

The 3FRP are the best between Minnesota and Cleveland this league changes quick so in 2-5 years the landscape will probably change. Also the warriors are 2 games behind Minnesota, huge chance that Minnesota pick will be better.
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Post#916 » by SA37 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:17 pm

For everyone raving about Wiggins being 29, he'll be 30 on Feb 23rd :lol:

I am pretty meh on Wiggins. I would have much preferred Middleton. That said, I think Wiggins checks a lot of boxes for the Heat and he is a solid 2-way player. I just wish GP II had been sent to Miami.

Like everyone else, I am holding out hope Miami will move Rozier. Not sure if dealing Rozier makes sense if Miami is trying to get K Anderson moved to get under the tax, but maybe Miami will be able to move Rozier in the summer.
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Post#917 » by miamiballer » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:19 pm

Would def try to get a vet pg if possible, Brogdon would be ideal

Can also verify that slo mo contract doesn’t affect 2026 as 2026 is non gauranteed

Wiggins most likely will opt out in 2026 to get a new deal and if he balls out we may wish to keep him anyway

We should still be players in 2026 if we want to be

We might be able to keep Wiggins long term and still add another solid player in fa then
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Post#918 » by inspired4fr33 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:20 pm

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inspired4fr33 wrote:Yall justify this all you want but its trash and the position this team is at sucks. Riley really needs to step down and this team needs to be blown up Herro gotta go and even Bam for a haul of picks. That's reality. We need to load up for the future future. Luka about to own the league, Giannis SGA Wemby those guys are gonna dominate once Bron KD Steph retire. We have no mega star piece and even Fox wasnt that. We need a STAR. I'm tired of this.


How exactly are you going to acquire this star without contracts to trade and players that you won't trade that the star wants to play with? Is your plan to bottom out and hope to select players in the draft that turn into all-star level players to attract that franchise changing star. No star wants to come play with recently drafted players who are unproven. So now the plan is to hope your draft picks turn into viable championship pieces 3-4 years from the time they're drafted. Wait aren't there are already two all star level players on the roster?


Exactly! Wait it out develop young stars were not winning a title anytime soon so many contenders in our way. And when I say develop young stars no one on this team is it. Ware is cool but he's never gonna be a top 10 player. We need a top 10 guy on this team its Miami a great market that should be always be aiming for top 2 in the east and making Finals appearances. I know every team wants that but we actually have the coaching and front office and structure as an organization to get it done. But Riles gotta go he'd old and washed and he always wants old stars past their prime thats not gonna cut it. I'm glad we didn't get KD we need an SGA or Anthony Edwards not a KD!

Obviously thats an example name but you catch my rift and through trades aint gonna happen so yeah let's tear it down accumulate picks and draft the future stars. Perfect example this years class how amazing would Heat fans feel if we had a top 3 lottery pick instead of middling around each year for the 9th and 8th seed and playoff losses and the 14-20th pick.
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Post#919 » by Moneyball_Spo » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:23 pm

SA37 wrote:For everyone raving about Wiggins being 29, he'll be 30 on Feb 23rd :lol:

I am pretty meh on Wiggins. I would have much preferred Middleton. That said, I think Wiggins checks a lot of boxes for the Heat and he is a solid 2-way player. I just wish GP II had been sent to Miami.

Like everyone else, I am holding out hope Miami will move Rozier. Not sure if dealing Rozier makes sense if Miami is trying to get K Anderson moved to get under the tax, but maybe Miami will be able to move Rozier in the summer.


Miami has more than held its own without Jimmy for most of the year. Having a dependable player, like Wiggins, can only help. I think we did ok considering the consequences. Lets see how GS does with regular season Jimmy.
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Post#920 » by Hallstar » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:25 pm

inspired4fr33 wrote:Yall justify this all you want but its trash and the position this team is at sucks. Riley really needs to step down and this team needs to be blown up Herro gotta go and even Bam for a haul of picks. That's reality. We need to load up for the future future. Luka about to own the league, Giannis SGA Wemby those guys are gonna dominate once Bron KD Steph retire. We have no mega star piece and even Fox wasnt that. We need a STAR. I'm tired of this.

We're in much better position to get a star than with Jimmy.

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