REPORT: AD out indefinitely

[dhsilv2]

Why would he leave a well paid job?

This is a business move.

For as much as we blame Nico why aren't we giving the same energy to the Mavs owner who has the final say on this move?

Again the Mavs owner had to sign off on this. Why would he trade the bigger younger star for a aging AD?

It's not hard to see what happened behind the scenes. This was a move made for the entire league. The league had no superstar who could replace LeBron/Curry. Their best chance was to put Luka a international star in LA. The NBA got their next guy and his name is Luka and he plays in the best market for the most popular franchise in the league.

Wade told you what happened believe him.

The owner is just that. An owner. They are even known to not be basketball people. So they'll get left alone. Nico is supposed to be an expert. No fan base anywhere is going to want this guy there. It's a huge reputation issue. He'll be a joke in the community he lives in (do the owners even have a home in dallas?). I mean imagine your kids come home crying "daddy all the kids say you're an idiot for trading Luka". This isn't going to be a comfortable time for him in Dallas going forward.

And before all this, he was well respected. He'd have been able to get a new job no problem.

So you're telling me the Mavs owner didn't know Luka was an international superstar who was just entering his prime and the guy they were trading him for was a aging 32yr injury prone AD?

You're insulting the worlds basketball knowledge and you're also insulting all owners when you don't think they know who their top money maker is. Luka was Dallas money maker. The owner knew this was a bad trade and he signed off on it because the NBA as a whole had to do something about the ratings. You better believe these billionaires talk behind the scenes. This is just a hobby for them they make shady moves if it helps the business overall.

There is no reason to justify the Mavs owner signing off on this unless it was something shady happening behind the scenes point blank.

I'm stating there won't be blow back on an owner like a GM. I also think the whole LA conspiracy you're pitching is tinfoil hat level but that's another story.

[An Unbiased Fan]

I actually hate the Mavs organization so much. Imagine you have a 25 year old superstar, acquired a 2nd option in Kyrie Irving for peanuts to form one of the most potent offensive backcourts in NBA history. They make the finals in their first full year together, winning 3 straight series without HCA. The team retools in the summer, improving their weaknesses by swapping DJJ/THJ/Josh Green for Klay/Grimes/Naji...

Then they trade their 25 year old superstar for the most injury prone player in the league who is THIRTY TWO. Don't even give the guys a chance to run it back after making the finals in their FIRST YEAR TOGETHER!!!

**** piece of trash miserable franchise wasting the twilight of Kyrie's prime and effectively killing any chance at another ring. I don't know why I'm surprised. Same franchise that traded Nash because they didn't want to pay him. Same franchise that made the EXACT same mistake with Brunson a couple decades later. Same franchise that made no effort to retain the championship roster from 2011.

Some franchises just don't deserve to exist.

Let me understand this.

You hate the Mavs franchise. Cool. No challenge there. Understandable.

But you have a Lakers logo... a team that gets things gifted to them? Do you not feel bad about the field not balanced in the NBA? Shouldn't you hate the fact that the Lakers have benefits that most other franchises don't have?

Lakers aren't "gifted" anything. They had the CP3 trade blocked.

They are just a great organization that builds through culture as opposed to drafts.

[JustBuzzin]

Nico might go down as the worst GM of all time.

What accountability does the Mavs owner have?

I mean the last say has to be signed off by the owner. Just curious as to why the owner gets let off the hook.

[liquidswords]

Feels like Dallas rushed him back to try to save face with the fans.

[JustBuzzin]

The owner is just that. An owner. They are even known to not be basketball people. So they'll get left alone. Nico is supposed to be an expert. No fan base anywhere is going to want this guy there. It's a huge reputation issue. He'll be a joke in the community he lives in (do the owners even have a home in dallas?). I mean imagine your kids come home crying "daddy all the kids say you're an idiot for trading Luka". This isn't going to be a comfortable time for him in Dallas going forward.

And before all this, he was well respected. He'd have been able to get a new job no problem.

So you're telling me the Mavs owner didn't know Luka was an international superstar who was just entering his prime and the guy they were trading him for was a aging 32yr injury prone AD?

You're insulting the worlds basketball knowledge and you're also insulting all owners when you don't think they know who their top money maker is. Luka was Dallas money maker. The owner knew this was a bad trade and he signed off on it because the NBA as a whole had to do something about the ratings. You better believe these billionaires talk behind the scenes. This is just a hobby for them they make shady moves if it helps the business overall.

There is no reason to justify the Mavs owner signing off on this unless it was something shady happening behind the scenes point blank.

I'm stating there won't be blow back on an owner like a GM. I also think the whole LA conspiracy you're pitching is tinfoil hat level but that's another story.

Wade said it. Colin Cowherd confirmed it.

Those are well connected people we are just fans I'm just telling you what they said lol

[Dacost]

Windy needs some time off this guys are working triple time with this crazy trade.

[Kobeskillz]

The Hoop Collective episode about AD injury was a complete **** show
Windhorst visibly frustrated and snippy, insisting that AD injury doesn't matter on the big picture of the trade and players always get injured.
Windhorst also went out of his way to defend Dumont.
Tim McMahon got his feeling hurt because a young local journalist (who actually travels and follows the team everywhere) exposed his lies about the death threats towards Nico Harrison, and calls him wannabe journalist.

Damn now I have to listen to the Hoop Collective although I’m seriously starting to dislike Bontemps.

Bontemps has always been god awful. He has such a unlikeable personality with zero charisma and is wrong often but talks like his word is law.

Just terrible. Howdy Partner isn't far behind lol. Wendy needs better crew.

[JonFromVA]

Like, I have a car worth 50k, but I personally feel it sucks, so it is smart to sell if for 15k now? How are these morons even have money in their lives, stupidest businessmen I have ever seen.

Now imagine because you tried to shop that car around to the highest bidder, your car finds out about it and starts insisting it will only be owned by certain people, and then your sister leaks that you don't trust the car because it never starts up in the morning, burns oil, and is going to need $70M/year in maintenance.

The problem isn't necessarily targeting a player and acting on it, so much as targeting Anthony Davis. Of course we can't ignore that the Mavs have so many hopes resting on Kyrie ... who is basically the poster boy for the dark scenario I laid out for your car.

But car does start in the morning, it drives me to nba finals. All gripes i have with my car is irrelevant to its current value at least, and everyone thinks my car is all time great.

Problem, I dont even want to shop, i just really want this jalopy the other guy has, so I just call him myself, and offer him my expensive car, one of the best cars there is or ever was, for his jalopy, because damn I love that Jalopy. Everyone in the world will say its a bad move, or at least get another 40k of compensation back, but nah man, the jalopy is good.

This whole analogy has failed, I am just literally saying what MAVS have done

That's so last season. This season your car keeps popping it's tires because it's too heavy.

[UcanUwill]

If owner make you do this, you resign, plain and simple. Resignation hurts your career far less than this move. This makes Nico not just a clown, his name will forever be remembered in history as a guy who made stupidest move in sports history. You **** resign...

These morons were on it together, the more they speak, the more apparent it is that they really don't know how stupid they are, they really do not get what they have done. Their justification on that Luka has no worketic is the poorest excuse ever, even if the owner is that stupid, he really thinks Shaq was hard working one, not Luka, it doesn't mean you didn't shipped third best asset in the nba for not even the third of its worth.

Like, I have a car worth 50k, but I personally feel it sucks, so it is smart to sell if for 15k now? How are these morons even have money in their lives, stupidest businessmen I have ever seen.

Normally, I'd say this is idiotic. You do what the owners say and you'll get another GM deal later if you need it. Again owners will know you did it for them. But this is truly a once in a generation level clown move that will never be lived down. You really might have to resign before you put your name on this.

Why would he leave a well paid job?

This is a business move.

For as much as we blame Nico why aren't we giving the same energy to the Mavs owner who has the final say on this move?

Again the Mavs owner had to sign off on this. Why would he trade the bigger younger star for a aging AD?

It's not hard to see what happened behind the scenes. This was a move made for the entire league. The league had no superstar who could replace LeBron/Curry. Their best chance was to put Luka a international star in LA. The NBA got their next guy and his name is Luka and he plays in the best market for the most popular franchise in the league.

Wade told you what happened believe him.

Owner gets plenty of blame, especially now when he opened his mouth.

Resigning would have been career move. As said, Nico was well respected, he will soon take the blame and who will hire again after this trade? Keeping the job and taking the blame is not always best career move, quite the opposite. He didn't do it, because he probably really thought trade is fair. You will never see such a move, because it has to be two independent intelligent parties (owner and gm) who facilitate the move, and when the move is this bad, one party will talk sense into another who would do the move. This is first time in history where both parties were out of their mind, or sonething trully was corrupt, I still can't grasp how any of this has happened.

[Pattycakes]

I actually hate the Mavs organization so much. Imagine you have a 25 year old superstar, acquired a 2nd option in Kyrie Irving for peanuts to form one of the most potent offensive backcourts in NBA history. They make the finals in their first full year together, winning 3 straight series without HCA. The team retools in the summer, improving their weaknesses by swapping DJJ/THJ/Josh Green for Klay/Grimes/Naji...

Then they trade their 25 year old superstar for the most injury prone player in the league who is THIRTY TWO. Don't even give the guys a chance to run it back after making the finals in their FIRST YEAR TOGETHER!!!

**** piece of trash miserable franchise wasting the twilight of Kyrie's prime and effectively killing any chance at another ring. I don't know why I'm surprised. Same franchise that traded Nash because they didn't want to pay him. Same franchise that made the EXACT same mistake with Brunson a couple decades later. Same franchise that made no effort to retain the championship roster from 2011.

Some franchises just don't deserve to exist.

Let me understand this.

You hate the Mavs franchise. Cool. No challenge there. Understandable.

But you have a Lakers logo... a team that gets things gifted to them? Do you not feel bad about the field not balanced in the NBA? Shouldn't you hate the fact that the Lakers have benefits that most other franchises don't have?

If we’re talking about teams getting gifted top free agents every year, I don’t want a mavs mod starting that conversation

[BruttoNostra]

Nico Harrison is worried of Luka's conditioning yet traded him for a 32 years old dude with this kind of injury history


AD career injury history

Fractured left hand, January 13, 2013

Dislocated finger left hand, January 29, 2014

Sprained ankle, March 28, 2014

Back spasm, 9 April 2014

Chest contusion, December 13, 2014

Sprained left big toe, January 16, 2015

Groin strain, January 30, 2015

Sprained right shoulder, February 7, 2015

Sprained right shoulder, February 21, 2015

Sprained ankle, March 19, 2015

Hip strain, November 11, 2015

Shoulder pain, November 18, 2015

Back injury, January 8, 2016

Concussion, January 25, 2016

Sprained right big toe, 27 February 2016

Knee pain, left knee, 18 May 2016

Sprained ankle, 12 October 2016

Lower back pain, November 12, 2016

Quadriceps, 16 November 2016

Quadriceps, 18 November 2016

Contusion left leg, 17 December 2016

Bruised hip, 11 January 2017

Sprained left thumb, 17 January 2017

Right quadriceps impingement, 23 January 2017

Sickness, 17 October 2017

Inflammation left knee, 25 October 2017

Concussion, 18 November 2017

Groin strain, 1 December 2017

Groin pain, December 11, 2017

Sprained ankle, 8 January 2018

Sprained ankle, 7 March 2018

Elbow impingement, 27 October 2018

Sprained elbow, 1 November 2018

Elbow sprain, November 4, 2018

Sprained hip, 24 November 2018

Illness, 20 December 2018

Sickness, January 1, 2019

Sprained ankle, 12 January 2019

Dislocated index finger, 19 January 2019

Back spasm, 8 March 2019

Right shoulder pain, 13 November 2019

Sprained right ankle, 17 December 2019

Gluteal contusion, January 20, 2020

Right knee pain, March 1, 2020

Calf strain, December 27, 2020

Abductor strain, January 8, 2021

Quadriceps contusion, January 28, 2021

Achilles tendon tendonitis, 8 February 2021

Achilles tendonitis, 16 February 2021

Groin strain, May 30, 2021

MCL Sprain, December 18, 2021

Mid-foot Sprain, February 16, 2022

Foot Injury, April 5, 2022

Back Injury, October 18, 2022

Calf Injury, November 28, 2022

Back Injury, December 4, 2022

Foot Injury, January 25, 2023

Foot Injury, March 29, 2023

Head Injury, May 12, 2023

Groin Injury, November 10, 2023

Hip Injury, November 5, 2024

Abdominal strain, January 28, 2025

Adductor Injury, February 8, 2025 - out indefinitely

Reading this is like watching the opening text in star wars.

Great idea!
Done:
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[mastermixer]

The owner is just that. An owner. They are even known to not be basketball people. So they'll get left alone. Nico is supposed to be an expert. No fan base anywhere is going to want this guy there. It's a huge reputation issue. He'll be a joke in the community he lives in (do the owners even have a home in dallas?). I mean imagine your kids come home crying "daddy all the kids say you're an idiot for trading Luka". This isn't going to be a comfortable time for him in Dallas going forward.

And before all this, he was well respected. He'd have been able to get a new job no problem.

So you're telling me the Mavs owner didn't know Luka was an international superstar who was just entering his prime and the guy they were trading him for was a aging 32yr injury prone AD?

You're insulting the worlds basketball knowledge and you're also insulting all owners when you don't think they know who their top money maker is. Luka was Dallas money maker. The owner knew this was a bad trade and he signed off on it because the NBA as a whole had to do something about the ratings. You better believe these billionaires talk behind the scenes. This is just a hobby for them they make shady moves if it helps the business overall.

There is no reason to justify the Mavs owner signing off on this unless it was something shady happening behind the scenes point blank.

I'm stating there won't be blow back on an owner like a GM. I also think the whole LA conspiracy you're pitching is tinfoil hat level but that's another story.

It is pretty funny.

You get an owner like Vivek in Sacramento with viral clips of him confirming they should pick Stauskas and everyone goes “omg this guy is way too hands on! A real owner hires a GM or President of Basketball Operations and lets them do their job!”

Then you get the mavs trading Luka and you get “what kind of owner would allow this! The buck stops with the owner!”

You’ll always hear it both ways I guess

[dhsilv2]

So you're telling me the Mavs owner didn't know Luka was an international superstar who was just entering his prime and the guy they were trading him for was a aging 32yr injury prone AD?

You're insulting the worlds basketball knowledge and you're also insulting all owners when you don't think they know who their top money maker is. Luka was Dallas money maker. The owner knew this was a bad trade and he signed off on it because the NBA as a whole had to do something about the ratings. You better believe these billionaires talk behind the scenes. This is just a hobby for them they make shady moves if it helps the business overall.

There is no reason to justify the Mavs owner signing off on this unless it was something shady happening behind the scenes point blank.

I'm stating there won't be blow back on an owner like a GM. I also think the whole LA conspiracy you're pitching is tinfoil hat level but that's another story.

Wade said it. Colin Cowherd confirmed it.

Those are well connected people we are just fans I'm just telling you what they said lol

Cowherd....connected...umm riiiiiiiiiight

[dhsilv2]

So you're telling me the Mavs owner didn't know Luka was an international superstar who was just entering his prime and the guy they were trading him for was a aging 32yr injury prone AD?

You're insulting the worlds basketball knowledge and you're also insulting all owners when you don't think they know who their top money maker is. Luka was Dallas money maker. The owner knew this was a bad trade and he signed off on it because the NBA as a whole had to do something about the ratings. You better believe these billionaires talk behind the scenes. This is just a hobby for them they make shady moves if it helps the business overall.

There is no reason to justify the Mavs owner signing off on this unless it was something shady happening behind the scenes point blank.

I'm stating there won't be blow back on an owner like a GM. I also think the whole LA conspiracy you're pitching is tinfoil hat level but that's another story.

It is pretty funny.

You get an owner like Vivek in Sacramento with viral clips of him confirming they should pick Stauskas and everyone goes “omg this guy is way too hands on! A real owner hires a GM or President of Basketball Operations and lets them do their job!”

Then you get the mavs trading Luka and you get “what kind of owner would allow this! The buck stops with the owner!”

You’ll always hear it both ways I guess

I think there's a huge difference in a draft pick and a top 5 player, who's just taken you to the finals. I wouldn't want an owner being ultra involved in a draft. But with if you trade away a PROVEN superstar is a bit different. Owner should get all kinds of criticism, but the reality is people will forget the owner's name unless he goes out of his way to be known. A GM is a public facing person.

[trickshot]

He had something to prove and rushed himself. The energy he exerted in that fast game off an abdominal strain just looked unhealthy for AD standards. He will almost always get re-injured without a cautious timeline. He was the Lakers main big all season and is coming to the Mavs with a ton of season mileage.

[JonFromVA]

I'm stating there won't be blow back on an owner like a GM. I also think the whole LA conspiracy you're pitching is tinfoil hat level but that's another story.

It is pretty funny.

You get an owner like Vivek in Sacramento with viral clips of him confirming they should pick Stauskas and everyone goes “omg this guy is way too hands on! A real owner hires a GM or President of Basketball Operations and lets them do their job!”

Then you get the mavs trading Luka and you get “what kind of owner would allow this! The buck stops with the owner!”

You’ll always hear it both ways I guess

I think there's a huge difference in a draft pick and a top 5 player, who's just taken you to the finals. I wouldn't want an owner being ultra involved in a draft. But with if you trade away a PROVEN superstar is a bit different. Owner should get all kinds of criticism, but the reality is people will forget the owner's name unless he goes out of his way to be known. A GM is a public facing person.

Yes, of course the owner signed off on all of this, but it's still Nico's job to suggest ways to navigate the trade and convince the owner of the best path. They're both complicit.

It reminds me a bit of when the Cavs traded Kyrie and tried to get something for the future and something for the present and ended up doing neither very well; but the big difference is the Mavs didn't have to make the trade at the deadline.

[Ken Bannister]

Nico Harrison is worried of Luka's conditioning yet traded him for a 32 years old dude with this kind of injury history


AD career injury history

Fractured left hand, January 13, 2013

Dislocated finger left hand, January 29, 2014

Sprained ankle, March 28, 2014

Back spasm, 9 April 2014

Chest contusion, December 13, 2014

Sprained left big toe, January 16, 2015

Groin strain, January 30, 2015

Sprained right shoulder, February 7, 2015

Sprained right shoulder, February 21, 2015

Sprained ankle, March 19, 2015

Hip strain, November 11, 2015

Shoulder pain, November 18, 2015

Back injury, January 8, 2016

Concussion, January 25, 2016

Sprained right big toe, 27 February 2016

Knee pain, left knee, 18 May 2016

Sprained ankle, 12 October 2016

Lower back pain, November 12, 2016

Quadriceps, 16 November 2016

Quadriceps, 18 November 2016

Contusion left leg, 17 December 2016

Bruised hip, 11 January 2017

Sprained left thumb, 17 January 2017

Right quadriceps impingement, 23 January 2017

Sickness, 17 October 2017

Inflammation left knee, 25 October 2017

Concussion, 18 November 2017

Groin strain, 1 December 2017

Groin pain, December 11, 2017

Sprained ankle, 8 January 2018

Sprained ankle, 7 March 2018

Elbow impingement, 27 October 2018

Sprained elbow, 1 November 2018

Elbow sprain, November 4, 2018

Sprained hip, 24 November 2018

Illness, 20 December 2018

Sickness, January 1, 2019

Sprained ankle, 12 January 2019

Dislocated index finger, 19 January 2019

Back spasm, 8 March 2019

Right shoulder pain, 13 November 2019

Sprained right ankle, 17 December 2019

Gluteal contusion, January 20, 2020

Right knee pain, March 1, 2020

Calf strain, December 27, 2020

Abductor strain, January 8, 2021

Quadriceps contusion, January 28, 2021

Achilles tendon tendonitis, 8 February 2021

Achilles tendonitis, 16 February 2021

Groin strain, May 30, 2021

MCL Sprain, December 18, 2021

Mid-foot Sprain, February 16, 2022

Foot Injury, April 5, 2022

Back Injury, October 18, 2022

Calf Injury, November 28, 2022

Back Injury, December 4, 2022

Foot Injury, January 25, 2023

Foot Injury, March 29, 2023

Head Injury, May 12, 2023

Groin Injury, November 10, 2023

Hip Injury, November 5, 2024

Abdominal strain, January 28, 2025

Adductor Injury, February 8, 2025 - out indefinitely

Reading this is like watching the opening text in star wars.

Lmaoooooo I'm done with this thread!!

[Message Boar]

Oof, that's tough. Also a tough look for the journalists/Laker fans who were assuring me that the "injury-prone"-label was a thing of the past and no longer accurate. Even if on a sample size basis, this could just be horrendous bad luck.

The only thing left to say is that I wish AD a speedy and full recovery. And that I still feel bad for Mavs fans; hang in there, fellas.

[Knicks218]

The NBA should look into this for collusion. Rob Pelinka and Nico are friends because of Kobe Byrant and Nico trades an MVP Hall of Famer candidate in Luka for peanuts.

Just like Jerry west did when he traded Pau Gasol to the Lakers, It's collusion and cheating to help keep the Lakers relevant!

[Cassius]

The worst part is that the Star Wars timeline starts in 2021, and not when AD's career began.