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Re: PG Clippers - Great Win! 

Post#101 » by emunney » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:03 pm

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emunney wrote:Don't know if we went over this in the GT, but Giannis absolutely relishes playing Kawhi, and Kawhi absolutely hates playing Giannis.


clippers special for him, kawhi harden and simmons guys he all hates


I think he hates Harden and Simmons. The Kawhi thing I think is just looking to demonstrate that a legendary defender **** can not deal with him whatsoever.
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Post#103 » by Bernman » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:18 pm

old skool wrote:Listening to Justin Garcia on the Bucks post game radio show after the game last night was different. In multiple segments he sounded more like part of the coaching staff than a media member.

He talked about advice he gave Portis on how to deal with his suspension.

He said that Portis is a key voice at practice, generating energy for the entire team, and that with Portis' recent absences, he (Garcia) has filled that void.

He said that Sims told him that he was a 1-5 defender, so Garcia shouted to the team what Sims had said and told them to challenge Sims and attack him.

He talked a lot about the Portis suspension, that the failed drug test occurred last fall, and that Rivers said that the team could not appeal, because that would be "too risky". He said that Rivers didn't want to go into too many specific details, implying that he (Garcia) didn't want to go there and provide too much information. Super vague.


Garcia acts like he's independent while he's on LOB, when he's a team employee. It goes against the idea of media. He's basically a p.r. guy for the Bucks.

He's been minimizing Sims a lot, to back up Doc's dismissiveness about him. He's a playable big in plenty of situations, & the last few weeks we've needed that. He's a change-up from Brook, even Bobby when around.

A prime example of how he's a p.r. guy for the Bucks is Trent replaces Beasley, then Justin argues it's refreshing to get a guy who can finish inside actually. If anything Trent's worse at it. Beasley had a high glasser & could throw it down on occasion.
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Post#105 » by chonestown » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:43 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:Kris Dunn might legitimately be the best "point-of-attack" defender in the league right now. Not exactly a surprise that a slightly hampered Dame had a rough efficiency night (and yet he still came through when it mattered most). Equally not surprising that the usual suspects would use that to bludgeon their narratives home.



When the usual suspects repeatedly pined for adding Kris Dunn, they were told he sucks.


Aw man, you just like guys named Dunn is what it comes down to is what I think it is.
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Post#106 » by -Jragon- » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:48 pm

To me it's simple as Bobby was suspended so Doc wasn't able to play him and that's why we won. He would have tried a Bobby/Brook lineup and we would have went down 15+.. I didn't see 1 player Bobby could have covered on the Clippers. Feels like the game has passed players like this behind. Wayyy better off getting Sims acclimated like tonight and him/Kuz get ALL of Bobby's minutes in the playoffs and keep Bobby on the bench as Brook insurance. Kuz playing more 4 and GA getting min at the 5, the next guys off the bench before Bobby should be Rollins and AJJ .. we just need the D and (functional) hustle more than the jumpers. Bobby appears to hustle at times but it rarely ends with him being in position to make a play -- he gives up just before that too consistently.
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Post#107 » by -Jragon- » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:50 pm

There was not 1 Clippers posession at the end of this game where I didn't believe we could get a stop right now... that was a nice feeling that I haven't felt for a long time -- since Jrue left actually.
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Post#108 » by tedbrogen » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:02 pm

-Jragon- wrote:There was not 1 Clippers posession at the end of this game where I didn't believe we could get a stop right now... that was a nice feeling that I haven't felt for a long time -- since Jrue left actually.


I haven’t felt that way since game five 2022 when they actually did get stops when it mattered. Game six no one could get a stop on Tatum, game seven they let Grant Williams having shooting practice on corner threes, the next season they rarely tried full effort on D, and then Jrue got roasted by Butler in the first round. Then we get to Beas as the POA defender era.
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Post#109 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:11 pm

Sims is in no way a better player than Bobby and he never will be, but him just being an active/athletic rim-protector out there without attempting a single shot, yet still impacting the game in a positive way is exactly what some of us have been talking about for years. Get him some pick & roll chemistry with Dame and I bet he'll even become a semi-useful offensive player.
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Post#110 » by Shaffty » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:59 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Sims is in no way a better player than Bobby and he never will be, but him just being an active/athletic rim-protector out there without attempting a single shot, yet still impacting the game in a positive way is exactly what some of us have been talking about for years. Get him some pick & roll chemistry with Dame and I bet he'll even become a semi-useful offensive player.



it will be interesting these next 25 games. quite the test case to see if we are fine w/o bobby and if we are, bringing him back could be system shattering
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Post#111 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:19 pm

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You confusing people saying they wouldn't give up assets to trade for him with "he sucks"?


A couple 2nd round picks for a player who can eliminate a $48.7 million player who's entire value is offense? That's wasting assets?


At what point could we have acquired and then retained Dunn on the deal the Clippers gave him (3-yrs $15 million) when we were over the 2nd apron? Or are you seriously suggesting that we should have dumped useful players (salary) plus some assets just to sign Kris Dunn?


I wanted to sign him out of the G League, and after we whiffed on that, trade for him. We signed Dragic over Dunn
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Post#112 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:20 pm

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ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Kris Dunn might legitimately be the best "point-of-attack" defender in the league right now. Not exactly a surprise that a slightly hampered Dame had a rough efficiency night (and yet he still came through when it mattered most). Equally not surprising that the usual suspects would use that to bludgeon their narratives home.



When the usual suspects repeatedly pined for adding Kris Dunn, they were told he sucks.


Aw man, you just like guys named Dunn is what it comes down to is what I think it is.



You've Dunn figured me out, I reckon. I'm Dunn here.
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Post#113 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:22 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Sims is in no way a better player than Bobby and he never will be, but him just being an active/athletic rim-protector out there without attempting a single shot, yet still impacting the game in a positive way is exactly what some of us have been talking about for years. Get him some pick & roll chemistry with Dame and I bet he'll even become a semi-useful offensive player.


I want to see some Giannis/Sims pick and roll.
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Post#114 » by soxperry » Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:23 pm

chonestown wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Kris Dunn might legitimately be the best "point-of-attack" defender in the league right now. Not exactly a surprise that a slightly hampered Dame had a rough efficiency night (and yet he still came through when it mattered most). Equally not surprising that the usual suspects would use that to bludgeon their narratives home.



When the usual suspects repeatedly pined for adding Kris Dunn, they were told he sucks.


Aw man, you just like guys named Dunn is what it comes down to is what I think it is.


i know you are seldom being serious, but in all seriousness, i think this board is in love with the "lock down defender" thing that very seldom exists and almost never exists within a player who is adequate offensively.
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Post#115 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:37 pm

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Garcia acts like he's independent while he's on LOB, when he's a team employee. It goes against the idea of media. He's basically a p.r. guy for the Bucks.


I listened to the LOB earlier in the week when Frank, Camile and Justin were all on. I did appreciate Justin presenting the team side on the Middleton deal. As Frank and Camile were lamenting it as a mess, Justin rebutted with what is the definition of insanity, i.e. doing the same thing over and over.

His obvious point was keeping Khris around for yet another run seemed like a dubious proposition given his health situation.

Justin is a smart guy. You just have to appreciate that he's sort of taken on the Duke H. role here.
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Post#116 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:47 pm

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Bernman wrote:
Garcia acts like he's independent while he's on LOB, when he's a team employee. It goes against the idea of media. He's basically a p.r. guy for the Bucks.


I listened to the LOB earlier in the week when Frank, Camile and Justin were all on. I did appreciate Justin presenting the team side on the Middleton deal. As Frank and Camile were lamenting it as a mess, Justin rebutted with what is the definition of insanity, i.e. doing the same thing over and over.

His obvious point was keeping Khris around for yet another run seemed like a dubious proposition given his health situation.

Justin is a smart guy. You just have to appreciate that he's sort of taken on the Duke H. role here.


And Khris all but confirmed this in that interview that just dropped when he joked about the idea of him playing 35-minutes a night ("I wish"). Was a refreshingly honest take and further illustrated why we had already reached Defcon 1 with his medicals. I'm still on the we-should-have-traded-for-Jimmy move (maybe Bobby's looming suspension made that impossible, IDK), but we really did need to flip him for any starting caliber wing that could soak up 30-35 playoff minutes. Just seemed like Kuzma was Plan C (I think if Beal had waived his NTC, LaVine would be a Buck right now).
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Post#117 » by emunney » Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:47 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
Bernman wrote:
Garcia acts like he's independent while he's on LOB, when he's a team employee. It goes against the idea of media. He's basically a p.r. guy for the Bucks.


I listened to the LOB earlier in the week when Frank, Camile and Justin were all on. I did appreciate Justin presenting the team side on the Middleton deal. As Frank and Camile were lamenting it as a mess, Justin rebutted with what is the definition of insanity, i.e. doing the same thing over and over.

His obvious point was keeping Khris around for yet another run seemed like a dubious proposition given his health situation.

Justin is a smart guy. You just have to appreciate that he's sort of taken on the Duke H. role here.


The counter-point is of course that "doing the same thing again" would necessitate having ever done the thing before. We're talking about one year with that group of three and *Giannis* was hurt. So the idea that we'd just be ramming the same heads against the same wall is not reflective of reality. I hope he got pushback. Particularly when there's a perfectly good justification (team didn't think Khris would ever be healthy enough to play more than half a game consistently again, even in the playoffs) sitting right there.

Or just say they **** love Kuzma, as that is obviously true and a huge reason they pushed so hard for this specific trade. They've been trying to get him for years!
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Post#118 » by Shaffty » Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:10 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
Bernman wrote:
Garcia acts like he's independent while he's on LOB, when he's a team employee. It goes against the idea of media. He's basically a p.r. guy for the Bucks.


I listened to the LOB earlier in the week when Frank, Camile and Justin were all on. I did appreciate Justin presenting the team side on the Middleton deal. As Frank and Camile were lamenting it as a mess, Justin rebutted with what is the definition of insanity, i.e. doing the same thing over and over.

His obvious point was keeping Khris around for yet another run seemed like a dubious proposition given his health situation.

Justin is a smart guy. You just have to appreciate that he's sort of taken on the Duke H. role here.



cant stand most of those guys, they think their job is to like keep realistic expectations and stomp on any sort of fan excitement
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This is the good stuff right here. Never out of position. Quick twitch in the hips allows him to react and stay in front on the dribble drive. Always challenges the jump shot with his length. Switchable 1-5. Huge get.
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Post#120 » by crowhead76 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:21 pm

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Bernman wrote:
Garcia acts like he's independent while he's on LOB, when he's a team employee. It goes against the idea of media. He's basically a p.r. guy for the Bucks.


I listened to the LOB earlier in the week when Frank, Camile and Justin were all on. I did appreciate Justin presenting the team side on the Middleton deal. As Frank and Camile were lamenting it as a mess, Justin rebutted with what is the definition of insanity, i.e. doing the same thing over and over.

His obvious point was keeping Khris around for yet another run seemed like a dubious proposition given his health situation.

Justin is a smart guy. You just have to appreciate that he's sort of taken on the Duke H. role here.



Frank has become a very wet blanket with zero humility on that show, he has become a very tough listen. Kane Pittman is sorely missed.
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