2024-2025 Regular Season Game 60: Cleveland Cavaliers (47-10) at Orlando Magic (29-30) - 7:30pm

[Rainwater]

Anyone blaming Mose: we have no PG, no SG, no guard penetration, no shooting, no ball handlers, no playmakers, no bench scoring

Sooooooooo um what is Paolo and Franz?

We do understand that this is not 1990s. Everyone on the court should be able to handle the ball and make plays these days.

I watch all these teams like the Cavs, Celtics, Thunder, Grizzlies that have players nobody heard of that fit into their scheme and are productive.

What tf is our scheme? Mid range shots?

Aren't you kinda proving his point though? The magic need to get better players that fit their scheme. Missing wide open threes is not a coaching issue? Not having a PG is not a coaching issue. These are personnel/player skill issues rather than coaching issues.

[KillMonger]

Weltman got a lot of work ahead of him..... There is at least 3 or 4 ROTATION players that HAVE to go....WCJ....harris.....Cole....JI....Caleb... Maybe even KCP

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I think we shouldn't pick up Jett's $5m option. Malik Beasley and Ty Jerome got $2m this season.

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Maybe you should be president of basketball opps

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[DiplomaticMagic]

I stopped watching once Mosley didnt challenge Franz's 3rd foul. We arent going to win **** with him as a coach. He is a pussy.

Hes a really good assistant coach, culture builder, but not a head coach.

[Optimus_Steel]

Weltman got a lot of work ahead of him..... There is at least 3 or 4 ROTATION players that HAVE to go....WCJ....harris.....Cole....JI....Caleb... Maybe even KCP

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I think we shouldn't pick up Jett's $5m option. Malik Beasley and Ty Jerome got $2m this season.

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Maybe you should be president of basketball opps

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If he doesn’t have a nervous tick that makes you sniff every 5 seconds that’s already an improvement over Weltman

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Weltman got a lot of work ahead of him..... There is at least 3 or 4 ROTATION players that HAVE to go....WCJ....harris.....Cole....JI....Caleb... Maybe even KCP

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I think we shouldn't pick up Jett's $5m option. Malik Beasley and Ty Jerome got $2m this season.

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Jett will get packaged with Cole/WCJ and picks as a youth player who just needs to play a ton where wins aren’t important.

[Rainwater]

Weltman got a lot of work ahead of him..... There is at least 3 or 4 ROTATION players that HAVE to go....WCJ....harris.....Cole....JI....Caleb... Maybe even KCP

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I think we shouldn't pick up Jett's $5m option. Malik Beasley and Ty Jerome got $2m this season.

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Jett will get packaged with Cole/WCJ and picks as a youth player who just needs to play a ton where wins aren’t important.

Honestly, I think that is the best thing that can happen to Jett.

[fendilim]

Its a beautiful day, I didnt watch the game. Lol

[OnlyFranz22]

Anyone blaming Mose: we have no PG, no SG, no guard penetration, no shooting, no ball handlers, no playmakers, no bench scoring

Sooooooooo um what is Paolo and Franz?

We do understand that this is not 1990s. Everyone on the court should be able to handle the ball and make plays these days.

I watch all these teams like the Cavs, Celtics, Thunder, Grizzlies that have players nobody heard of that fit into their scheme and are productive.

What tf is our scheme? Mid range shots?

Aren't you kinda proving his point though? The magic need to get better players that fit their scheme. Missing wide open threes is not a coaching issue? Not having a PG is not a coaching issue. These are personal/player skill issues rather than coaching issues.

No letting your players shoot fadeaway mid range shots is a coaching issue. It’s an egregious shot that should never be done.

Franz and Paolo are two guys a coach like SVG would put in a position to succeed.

No PG? What would having a PG do to Franz/Paolo? Anybody can be a PG these days. Franz and Paolo need the ball in their hands. They are not posting up waiting to shoot 3s off the PG running the show.

Ppl hate this but one needs dealt in a massive trade for better roster construction. Which will have to wait for a better coaching staff.

[KillMonger]

I think we shouldn't pick up Jett's $5m option. Malik Beasley and Ty Jerome got $2m this season.

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Maybe you should be president of basketball opps

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If he doesn’t have a nervous tick that makes you sniff every 5 seconds that’s already an improvement over Weltman

That was a nervous tick? I just thought he was on something

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[VFX]

It’s one of the two.

You either trade Paolo (because you simply don’t trade Franz) and you build a better system around Wagner.

OR

You get a point guard and possibly a new head coach. You cannot utilize Paolo the way he is now. It’s just bad nonsensical basketball.

So if you are a fan of Paolo, and want him to succeed, you should be praying to god for a point guard and a coach that knows how to effectively scheme around his skillset. Addressing neither isn’t an option if you have been watching this team for any stretch of time.

He is getting a healthy amount of shots. He is like top 3 in the league at drawing fouls and getting to the line. AND HES STILL inefficient. Is this loss on Paolo? No. But the offense is to blame and he’s currently half of that equation himself.

[eyriq]

Paolo's presser was fascinating. Said they can't just keep talking about things changing and actually need to change things.

[Knightro]

Paolo's presser was fascinating. Said they can't just keep talking about things changing and actually need to change things.

I hope he has a mirror.

[Rainwater]

Sooooooooo um what is Paolo and Franz?

We do understand that this is not 1990s. Everyone on the court should be able to handle the ball and make plays these days.

I watch all these teams like the Cavs, Celtics, Thunder, Grizzlies that have players nobody heard of that fit into their scheme and are productive.

What tf is our scheme? Mid range shots?

Aren't you kinda proving his point though? The magic need to get better players that fit their scheme. Missing wide open threes is not a coaching issue? Not having a PG is not a coaching issue. These are personal/player skill issues rather than coaching issues.

No letting your players shoot fadeaway mid range shots is a coaching issue. It’s an egregious shot that should never be done.

Franz and Paolo are two guys a coach like SVG would put in a position to succeed.

No PG? What would having a PG do to Franz/Paolo? Anybody can be a PG these days. Franz and Paolo need the ball in their hands. They are not posting up waiting to shoot 3s off the PG running the show.

Ppl hate this but one needs dealt in a massive trade for better roster construction. Which will have to wait for a better coaching staff.

We have a completely different views of what the issues are. Middies are not the reason why the Magic are losing, being dead last in three-point shots made is a bigger reason why the magic are losing. A lack of bench production is a massive reason why the magic are losing. Recently the Magic have been playing Paolo in a lot of pick and rolls and taking the ball out of his hands or posting him up, which has helped him quite a bit, it would be nice to have a point guard to run it with him.

Again, these are not coaching issues but personnel issues. The need to consistently blame Mose for things he cannot control is crazy especially since he has been pretty good this year.

And it's funny you bring up SVG, when he even commented throughout the game the biggest issue for the Magic is their lack of three-point shooting and how that has negatively impacted Paolo and Franz into taking more inefficient shots.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Paolo's presser was fascinating. Said they can't just keep talking about things changing and actually need to change things.

That was a rough presser.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Paolo's presser was fascinating. Said they can't just keep talking about things changing and actually need to change things.

I hope he has a mirror.

He said “we”. I think he knows.

[VFX]

Paolo's presser was fascinating. Said they can't just keep talking about things changing and actually need to change things.

Yeah?

What could he possibly be talking about?

The trade deadline is over. What could they change at this point? His shot selection could be a welcome change maybe.

[DiplomaticMagic]

Never heard Paolo that frustrated before. Very concerning.

[KillMonger]

It’s one of the two.

You either trade Paolo (because you simply don’t trade Franz) and you build a better system around Wagner.

OR

You get a point guard and possibly a new head coach. You cannot utilize Paolo the way he is now. It’s just bad nonsensical basketball.

So if you are a fan of Paolo, and want him to succeed, you should be praying to god for a point guard and a coach that knows how to effectively scheme around his skillset. Addressing neither isn’t an option if you have been watching this team for any stretch of time.

He is getting a healthy amount of shots. He is like top 3 in the league at drawing fouls and getting to the line. AND HES STILL inefficient. Is this loss on Paolo? No. But the offense is to blame and he’s currently half of that equation himself.

Trading Paolo now is a non starter.... Full stop.... Let's be serious here.... Just get the right guys around them and continue their development since our best players are both years from their primes.... Just get the right personell around them

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[thelead]

Our offense would look so much better with someone like Austin Reaves. He's not going anywhere unfortunately.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Paolo's presser was fascinating. Said they can't just keep talking about things changing and actually need to change things.

Yeah?

What could he possibly be talking about?

The trade deadline is over. What could they change at this point? His shot selection could be a welcome change maybe.

How about other players taking and making shots so he doesn’t feel like he has to take every shot.