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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA 

Post#1561 » by Archx » Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:20 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:But he has a gun so he can take care of Harrison... Trade for him!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:


Soooo, you're the guy Nico is hiding from.
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Post#1562 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:24 am

I know this topic is for the summer and all, but when Kyrie re-signs with Dallas (even after Luka got traded and all), I think you have to start the conversation about seriously retiring his jersey in the AAC rafters when it's all said and done.
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Post#1563 » by Mavrelous » Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:32 am

arkuo wrote:I know this topic is for the summer and all, but when Kyrie re-signs with Dallas (even after Luka got traded and all), I think you have to start the conversation about seriously retiring his jersey in the AAC rafters when it's all said and done.

You never know with Kyrie but he's on the right track IMO, he's leading, the only well spoken guy in the org, and what's missing is a championship or multiple deep runs.
P.S. I tjink Kyrie opts in and extends to allow space to target KD.
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Post#1564 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:39 am

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arkuo wrote:I know this topic is for the summer and all, but when Kyrie re-signs with Dallas (even after Luka got traded and all), I think you have to start the conversation about seriously retiring his jersey in the AAC rafters when it's all said and done.

You never know with Kyrie but he's on the right track IMO, he's leading, the only well spoken guy in the org, and what's missing is a championship or multiple deep runs.
P.S. I tjink Kyrie opts in and extends to allow space to target KD.


Yeah and he does community stuff in Dallas and beyond. I think he gets it done in Dallas.

Regarding KD, I feel the same way. I mean, we're all on this boat right. So why pray it sinks. If Nico feels he's going all in, then why tap the brakes on KD. He's getting traded for sure. Might as well throw your name into the hat. I'm not 100% on the KD idea, but I can see the reasoning behind it. If you have a shot at winning it all, then why hold back.
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Post#1565 » by Mavrelous » Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:42 am

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arkuo wrote:I know this topic is for the summer and all, but when Kyrie re-signs with Dallas (even after Luka got traded and all), I think you have to start the conversation about seriously retiring his jersey in the AAC rafters when it's all said and done.

You never know with Kyrie but he's on the right track IMO, he's leading, the only well spoken guy in the org, and what's missing is a championship or multiple deep runs.
P.S. I tjink Kyrie opts in and extends to allow space to target KD.


Yeah and he does community stuff in Dallas and beyond. I think he gets it done in Dallas.

Regarding KD, I feel the same way. I mean, we're all on this boat right. So why pray it sinks. If Nico feels he's going all in, then why tap the brakes on KD. He's getting traded for sure. Might as well throw your name into the hat. I'm not 100% on the KD idea, but I can see the reasoning behind it. If you have a shot at winning it all, then why hold back.

Mavs package is clear, PJ, Gafford and Klay + LAL 1st, I'm torn TBH, I really hate to lose PJ I think he's very underrated, but I think this package pulls it off.
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Post#1566 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:52 am

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Mavrelous wrote:You never know with Kyrie but he's on the right track IMO, he's leading, the only well spoken guy in the org, and what's missing is a championship or multiple deep runs.
P.S. I tjink Kyrie opts in and extends to allow space to target KD.


Yeah and he does community stuff in Dallas and beyond. I think he gets it done in Dallas.

Regarding KD, I feel the same way. I mean, we're all on this boat right. So why pray it sinks. If Nico feels he's going all in, then why tap the brakes on KD. He's getting traded for sure. Might as well throw your name into the hat. I'm not 100% on the KD idea, but I can see the reasoning behind it. If you have a shot at winning it all, then why hold back.

Mavs package is clear, PJ, Gafford and Klay + LAL 1st, I'm torn TBH, I really hate to lose PJ I think he's very underrated, but I think this package pulls it off.


I think 2 firsts gets it done. 1 Mavs first and 1 first from the LA trade maybe.

Agree with PJ. Losing him would mean losing like 14 ppg. He's up for a new contract in a year. With KD, you get 26 ppg and actually get a secondary creator on offense. The latter part I'm actually interested in because now the offense changes and you can have the offense initiated by Kyrie or KD. And you have AD waiting in the post on top of all that. Sure the bench will be thin though. You gotta fill it up with guys earning way less. But it's not like it hasn't been done before.
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Post#1567 » by Mavrelous » Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:53 am

PJ production is in rebounding, switchability 2 to 5 and secondary rim protection, perfect modern 4.
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Post#1568 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:57 am

Mavrelous wrote:PJ production is in rebounding, switchability 2 to 5 and secondary rim protection, perfect modern 4.



Losing this part will hurt. And being able to defend guys like SGA.

If it comes to that, I think Max Christie, Naji will have to have bigger roles on defense. AD, KD and Lively will have to pitch in with the rebounds.

I think when you're on a position to land a KD, you do it then figure it out. Pat Riley did the same with Bron, Wade and Bosh. The roles will change drastically but overall you allow the league to adjust to you as you set the bar rather than be the one adjusting to whoever it is you're chasing.
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Post#1569 » by ACMFFL » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:03 am

I also think that Mavs will go after KD but I just hope that clueless Nico mf doesnt give up the farm for a fragile soon to be 37 years old KD..I think he's slightly more value than what Jimmy netted to Miami last TDL, so no Lively, no Christie and no 2031 pick.

Something like Klay/PJ/Gaff/Hardy/Omax/2029 LAL 1st.
And even then I still dont know if it's worth the candle.

Lively / Powell / min vet
AD / Marshall / Edwards
KD / Martin / min vet
Christie / Exum / 2025 rookie
Kyrie / Dinwiddie / min vet

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Post#1570 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:06 am

ACMFFL wrote:I also think that Mavs will go after KD but I just hope that clueless Nico mf doesnt give up the farm for a fragile soon to be 37 years old KD..I think he's slightly more value than what Jimmy netted to Miami last TDL, so no Lively, no Christie and no 2031 pick.

Something like Klay/PJ/Gaff/Hardy/Omax/2029 LAL 1st.
And even then I still dont know if it's worth the candle.

Lively / Powell / min vet
AD / Marshall / Edwards
KD / Martin / min vet
Christie / Exum / 2025 rookie
Kyrie / Dinwiddie / min vet

The new brand Dallas Mercenaricks.


Kyrie and AD are texting KD at the moment tampering and all that ****.

Kyrie and KD on the fastbreak is like Magic and Worthy running the floor. AD doesn't even have to run down. Just stay back there like Kareem :lol:
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Post#1571 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:09 am

Oh and speaking of guys earning way less, I think Nico makes another run at Yabusele in the offseason. He tried to trade for him but didn't go through.
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Post#1572 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:15 am

ACMFFL wrote:I also think that Mavs will go after KD but I just hope that clueless Nico mf doesnt give up the farm for a fragile soon to be 37 years old KD..I think he's slightly more value than what Jimmy netted to Miami last TDL, so no Lively, no Christie and no 2031 pick.

Something like Klay/PJ/Gaff/Hardy/Omax/2029 LAL 1st.
And even then I still dont know if it's worth the candle.

Lively / Powell / min vet
AD / Marshall / Edwards
KD / Martin / min vet
Christie / Exum / 2025 rookie
Kyrie / Dinwiddie / min vet

The new brand Dallas Mercenaricks.


If all those salaries will have to go through I think you need to fill the bench with journeymen. Guys like Drummond, Nick Alexander Walker and Gerson Yabusele are all UFA in the summer and could fill certain roles. Similar to the Heatles and Pat Riley, it could work.

C- Lively / Drummond / Powell
PF- Davis / Yabusele / Edwards
SF- Durant / Martin / Alexander-Walker
SG- Christie / Marshall / Hardy
PG- Kyrie / Exum / Dinwiddie


Sure it's an older team with Kyrie and AD being 32 and KD being 37. But is it really a team you want to game plan for for a 7 game series? Guarding KD is still a tall order in 2025. There will be teams that will choose to game plan for SGA and his barking and howling buddies rather than face that. :lol:
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Post#1573 » by Mavrelous » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:26 am

arkuo wrote:
ACMFFL wrote:I also think that Mavs will go after KD but I just hope that clueless Nico mf doesnt give up the farm for a fragile soon to be 37 years old KD..I think he's slightly more value than what Jimmy netted to Miami last TDL, so no Lively, no Christie and no 2031 pick.

Something like Klay/PJ/Gaff/Hardy/Omax/2029 LAL 1st.
And even then I still dont know if it's worth the candle.

Lively / Powell / min vet
AD / Marshall / Edwards
KD / Martin / min vet
Christie / Exum / 2025 rookie
Kyrie / Dinwiddie / min vet

The new brand Dallas Mercenaricks.


If all those salaries will have to go through I think you need to fill the bench with journeymen. Guys like Drummond, Nick Alexander Walker and Gerson Yabusele are all UFA in the summer and could fill certain roles. Similar to the Heatles and Pat Riley, it could work.

C- Lively / Drummond / Powell
PF- Davis / Yabusele / Edwards
SF- Durant / Martin / Alexander-Walker
SG- Christie / Marshall / Hardy
PG- Kyrie / Exum / Dinwiddie


Sure it's an older team with Kyrie and AD being 32 and KD being 37. But is it really a team you want to game plan for for a 7 game series? Guarding KD is still a tall order in 2025. There will be teams that will choose to game plan for SGA and his barking and howling buddies rather than face that. :lol:

NAW would be outside of Mavs range IMO, they will only have TPMLE, Yabusele is a long shot also, I prefer to throw the TPMLE on Capela if he doesn't get good offers, 1M in DAL is 1.5M in California/NY if you account for taxes and housing.
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Post#1574 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:27 am

An underrated angle in getting KD is it allows you to rest like one guy each game for load management rather than have Kyrie play 40 mins a night. These guys can take turns resting and have all 3 guys be ready for the playoffs. Rather than playing 40 mins per game for all 3 and risking injuries late in the season.

These guys are not playing all 82 games. So in theory you get at least 2 stars every game and have all 3 stars playing come playoff time. Followill said that one of the reasons the Spurs didnt win back to back rings with all that talent is because they didnt load manage.
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Post#1575 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:27 am

Mavrelous wrote:
arkuo wrote:
ACMFFL wrote:I also think that Mavs will go after KD but I just hope that clueless Nico mf doesnt give up the farm for a fragile soon to be 37 years old KD..I think he's slightly more value than what Jimmy netted to Miami last TDL, so no Lively, no Christie and no 2031 pick.

Something like Klay/PJ/Gaff/Hardy/Omax/2029 LAL 1st.
And even then I still dont know if it's worth the candle.

Lively / Powell / min vet
AD / Marshall / Edwards
KD / Martin / min vet
Christie / Exum / 2025 rookie
Kyrie / Dinwiddie / min vet

The new brand Dallas Mercenaricks.


If all those salaries will have to go through I think you need to fill the bench with journeymen. Guys like Drummond, Nick Alexander Walker and Gerson Yabusele are all UFA in the summer and could fill certain roles. Similar to the Heatles and Pat Riley, it could work.

C- Lively / Drummond / Powell
PF- Davis / Yabusele / Edwards
SF- Durant / Martin / Alexander-Walker
SG- Christie / Marshall / Hardy
PG- Kyrie / Exum / Dinwiddie


Sure it's an older team with Kyrie and AD being 32 and KD being 37. But is it really a team you want to game plan for for a 7 game series? Guarding KD is still a tall order in 2025. There will be teams that will choose to game plan for SGA and his barking and howling buddies rather than face that. :lol:

NAW would be outside of Mavs range IMO, they will only have TPMLE, Yabusele is a long shot also, I prefer to throw the TPMLE on Capela if he doesn't get good offers, 1M in DAL is 1.5M in California/NY if you account for taxes and housing.



Gotcha. I have no idea how much NAW or Yabusele earns and should earn for their next contract.
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Post#1576 » by Mavrelous » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:30 am

I think NAW will be at 30/3 range IMO, Yabusele may be available for TPMLE, but there's lots of bad blood with Exum, and he seems content in PHI, they'll pay him and he'll continue there.
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Post#1577 » by ACMFFL » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:31 am

Yeah, definitely. I'd love Yabu but we could only offer the TMLE (unless Kyrie takes a huge Dirkesque discount in order to allow us to stay under the 1st apron but I can't see it at all), I dont know if it's enough to entice him.
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Post#1578 » by 41Dirk41 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:33 am

So will we become the new Phoenix Suns or Brooklyn Nets? Wow.It's exciting.

Or maybe not. People will never understand.
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Post#1579 » by ACMFFL » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:34 am

Capela is a very nice target, there aren't better centers available for the TxMLE than him.
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Post#1580 » by arkuo » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:36 am

ACMFFL wrote:Yeah, definitely. I'd love Yabu but we could only offer the TMLE (unless Kyrie takes a huge Dirkesque discount in order to allow us to stay under the 1st apron but I can't see it at all), I dont know if it's enough to entice him.


Is Yabusele an upgrade over Omax? S&T maybe?

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