djsunyc wrote:[quote="mdenny" ]
The problem is you can't be a "ball movement" team and not turn the ball over. Those two things go hand in hand.[/quote]
for raw #'s, that is probably true.
shifting it to turnover % which adjusts it based in mins and pace, we are ranked 24th at 16.3%. worst are the jazz at 18%. best are okc at 11.7%.
so 16.3% of the time, we are turning it over.
we are middle of the pack for pace is 99.65 (15th). if we can lower our tov% by 1 or 2 %, it would have quite a significant impact on our defense.
we are ranked 4th in passes per game at 310.8. gsw, indiana and chi are ranked 1, 2 and 3. in terms of tov%, gsw is 13th, indy is 15th and chicago is 17th.
the quickest way to improve our defense is to just protect the ball better. hopefully that comes with time.[/quote][/quote]
The fact that "ball-movement" offenses NECESSARILY have higher turnover rates is not just a data thing. It's also intuitive/common sense.
If your offense is: bring ball up the floor....run a quick screen and get it to KD or SGA for an iso. Then they either attack or try to get a switch and THEN attack. It's common sense that a turnover is more likely for possessions where there are 5 to 6 passes as opposed to 1 or 2.
I mean....during crunch time in the playoffs....iso teams often don't even bother with the 1 pass and just give it straight to their iso star to bring ball up the floor.
Which brings up a related point: "ball movement" offenses rarely work in the playoffs. The warriors being an exception.