drsd wrote:Skybox wrote:drsd wrote:I think Banchero for Trae Young .
Suggs + KCP + picks more likely, imo.
No team can carry three max players in the new CBA, which is why, although your trade is permissible "now", it cannot happen.
Getting a PG that everyone here seems to want WILL cost either Banchero or F-Wagner. That's why the PGs the Magic should think of, after dumping Caldwell-Pope, are Alex Caruso/Payton Pritchard/Collin Sexton/Bones Hyland - type players.
For better or for worse, this team's future is linked to the ability to create a novel offense, not currently used in the NBA, built around two forwards taking terms on-ball. My problem: Coach Mosley is not an offensive innovator. Thus: he needs to fire his offensive coordinator and bring in a creative mind to invent the new NBA. If he doesn't do that, Mosley will be fired in two years time.
By the way, there is precedent here on this. When management brought in Rashard Lewis to the 2007-08 team, Orlando invented 4 out 1 in. (which GSW used to win a truck of titles). That novel offense was not created by Stan Van Gundy, a sternly defensive-focussed coach not unlike Mosley. This novel offense was created by Van Gundy's team.
There is a recent NBA title that had this basic two-forwards structure: the 2019-20 Los Angeles Lakers.
Avery Bradley/Danny Green/LeBron James/Anthony Davis/JaVale McGee
That is very similar to the path the Magic look to be taking in their "window". Of course the skill set of Banchero and F-Wager are NOTHING like James and Davis. So: innovate!
NBA has history of being slowest developing league among all basketball leagues when it comes to adjustments. NBA has ugly history of being copy-cat league of other successful nba teams, so most teams just build (worst) versions of current championship contending teams and that's one of reasons why most of them fail.
Teams all around a globe were in 3 point era 20 years before NBA.
All it took is raise of Steph Curry, multiple officiating changes, Malice at the Palace, and brutal decline in tv ratings to finally step out of mid 2000s mid range shooting era, the ugliest basketball nba era ever.
Like, there is literally story how HOF Mirko Novosel told people in his club and national team in 1980 to paint 3 point line so his players can start practicing 3 point shots, despite fact 3 point shot won't become a thing in Europe for 4 more years ( and among players he prepared for 3 point shooting was non other than Dražen Petrović himself)
"Why shoot 2 when you can step back and take 3"
That's Petrović NBA qoute from 1992.
Our GM, Anthony Parker, back in 2004 / 2005 was back to back Euroleague champion as player with Maccabi.
Maccabi was very unique team. For start, Parker played 3 different positions, SG,SF and PF. Backbone of his team were:
Šarūnas Jasikevičius- floor general who was elite 3 point shooter
Nikola Vujcic- point center, first Euroleague player with triple double who was 3 point shooter.
Few years ago there was huge debate here how "centers are history" and i was strong opponent of such claim, once again, all it took was watching other leagues and knowing as long target hangs in air, being tallest person will be massive advantage. All you needed is different skillsets for modern basketball to seek among Cs to be better suited for modern era.
Back to Orlando. Yes, there is a way to make Franz and Paolo be part of the offense where both players are involved and contribute and help team have good offensive rating. But that way isn't iso basketball. It should be pretty much opposite of that. Zero iso-basketball. Magic should be running variations of motion offense. There should be way more action where Franz is ball handler, Paolo is screener, there should be whole lot more offense where Paolo is ball handler and smaller guard is a screner who can curl to 3 point shot ( KCP for example) ,there should be way more plays where one of Franz/Paolo rush transition to take position below rim where they can use fact they are 6'10 , often guarded by smaller players.
There is NO logical explanation why so young team plays so slow.
There is no reason why every single offensive set we waste 10 sec on doing fake hand-offs that lead to nothing. There is zero reasons why one of Franz/Paolo don't clear side and attack people off the dribble 1 on 1. They send double team? Good, it means other side is playing 3 v 4, in a single second somebody goes to help, cutter should already be below rim. Good luck defending it.
I'll just post video of Maccabi 2004 team and pay attention how their offense is runned. It's modern nba basketball- 21 years before modern nba basketball.
It really hurts my mind that we have GM who played in that team, yet who has no voice ( or decision power) to implement anything from team that he was literally part of.
Around 7:00 you have Anthony Parker segment and how team was setting offense to prevent any other team to throw double team at him, opening driving lines and spreading floor
Around 8:00 min mark you have amazing examples how to use post ups to create shots from perimeter by doing inverted stagger screen before ball even leaves passing hand. ( pretty much Nikola Jokić basketball, 20 years before Nikola Jokić basketball ).
To add some solutions, my off season would be going after some of this:
1) Nembhard+ Toppin ( for KCP and whatever Pacers want ) .
Reasons: Nembhard is talented, can shoot, isn't high usage guy, takes his spots, can play off ball. Toppin as energy guy who plays off ball, start or play off bench, doesn't really matter, key factor for him is his ability to play without ball.
2) Gafford. Rebounding, some shot blocking, playing above rim, giving option to throw pick&roll lobs , can patch on defense what gaurds miss due his mobility.
3) Austin Reaves - Lakers probably need s*** loud of defense and C, feel free to pick whoever
other high targets would be Prichard, White, CJ McCullum, Simons, Reid, Brook Lopez, Adebayo
Basically i would target either guards who can break first line of defense, guards who can shoot or Cs who bring lot of energy and are mobile OR C who is very smart and decision maker.
Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. -John Lennon
THE TRIANGLE OFFENSE would be beautiful with Franz and Paolo and Simons
