Roster Architecture: Are we onboard with this?

[Thaddy]

Logically how does someone not improve in their sophomore year, return to a team on the bench and suddenly get better? Seriously think about that for a second. Maybe his stats look a little better against opposing benches but that won't be development. Gradey is so bad on the defensive end that if he improves LEAPS and BOUNDS he'll still be well below league average.

It's called being 21 and putting on weight. It's not exactly a crazy concept. To make the jump thay he is not a NBA player is just a joke.

Don't cry when I point out hyperbolic posts. I'm not following you around- only a limited number of topics and I comment on most.Paranoia is not a good look.

Plus...Gradey is 4th in PPG from his draft class this year and 2 of the guys ahead went #1 & #2. And his 3pt shooting this year has been more focused on above the break or coming off screens. Last year it was focused on C&S corner 3's.

Let's see what the offseason brings. We all should agree that next year, his minutes need to be earned. Internal competition is a good thing.

Internal competition could be bad and drive down his value. If we can sell him in a winning trade, let's say packaged with RJ for a really good starter that also fits well, I would guess we'd go through with that offer. Dick is a big gamble and projecting his defense to be even league average is hard to do. The optimal path is trading him for a good big man prospect and distributing minutes evenly. The draft will be a good opportunity to get a high floor prospect like Fleming. Gradey's ceiling isn't high or core piece level and his skillset is redundant with better prospect right next to him.

[Tripod]

It's called being 21 and putting on weight. It's not exactly a crazy concept. To make the jump thay he is not a NBA player is just a joke.

Don't cry when I point out hyperbolic posts. I'm not following you around- only a limited number of topics and I comment on most.Paranoia is not a good look.

Plus...Gradey is 4th in PPG from his draft class this year and 2 of the guys ahead went #1 & #2. And his 3pt shooting this year has been more focused on above the break or coming off screens. Last year it was focused on C&S corner 3's.

Let's see what the offseason brings. We all should agree that next year, his minutes need to be earned. Internal competition is a good thing.

Internal competition could be bad and drive down his value. If we can sell him in a winning trade, let's say packaged with RJ for a really good starter that also fits well, I would guess we'd go through with that offer. Dick is a big gamble and projecting his defense to be even league average is hard to do. The optimal path is trading him for a good big man prospect and distributing minutes evenly. The draft will be a good opportunity to get a high floor prospect like Fleming. Gradey's ceiling isn't high or core piece level and his skillset is redundant with better prospect right next to him.

I have said before that I have no issue with either of those roads either.

[Thaddy]

Plus...Gradey is 4th in PPG from his draft class this year and 2 of the guys ahead went #1 & #2. And his 3pt shooting this year has been more focused on above the break or coming off screens. Last year it was focused on C&S corner 3's.

Let's see what the offseason brings. We all should agree that next year, his minutes need to be earned. Internal competition is a good thing.

Internal competition could be bad and drive down his value. If we can sell him in a winning trade, let's say packaged with RJ for a really good starter that also fits well, I would guess we'd go through with that offer. Dick is a big gamble and projecting his defense to be even league average is hard to do. The optimal path is trading him for a good big man prospect and distributing minutes evenly. The draft will be a good opportunity to get a high floor prospect like Fleming. Gradey's ceiling isn't high or core piece level and his skillset is redundant with better prospect right next to him.

I have said before that I have no issue with either of those roads either.

If we keep Dick it'll hinder Walters development. How are we going to play RJ, Dick, Agbaji, Ingram, and Walter all at the wing positions?

We should trade at least 2 of these guys for a big we can play. If we get a solid NBA player it would look like a winning trade, a former all star big who we can get back on track and buy low on.

Maybe we can buy Lauri? RJ + Dick + 1st (lottery protected)

Poeltl / Maluach
Markannen / Mogbo
Barnes / Agbaji
Ingram / Walter
Quickley / Shead

That would give us the size to compete against the Cavs. We'd have flamethrowers from 3pt range with IQ, Lauri and Ingram. Then defense from Barnes and Poeltl.

Size is the way to combat the big wing initiators everyone is trying to grab. It's the new build that's needed to win in the league. I think it's why we're interested in Maluach.

[Rapsalot]

Yes if you add a few caveats.
1 we keep tanking and if outside 5 pick we get Khaman M he is ready for Backup C and maybe starter role someday?
SB works all summer on 3 again but shoots 4 a game until his 3pfg % is 34+% for 30+ games.
We ask GD, OA, RJB J’KW, IQ, and BI to increase 3 FG by 1 a game. Everyone has to work on defense offseason and make that a calling card next years. If you don’t bring it you sit.
Bring back CB as depth pro piece even if you run 14 players and GT moves to coach if needed.
This is option A but need a few contingencies.

[yellowknifer]

the stats lose value when the starters have barely played together, and that's not even including Ingram.....you listed a roster that doesn't match with the following stats....context is important otherwise the stats are meaningless.

Yup.

The stats don't take into account IQ missing 40 games, BB and KO missing a combined 70 and Walter missing training camp and almost 20. And all that happened at the same time WHILE we had the hardest schedule in the league to start the year.

And that's why there should be optimism. We moved 2 bench rotation guys for someone who will be our #1 scoring option. Upgrade.

All those minutes that the kids were force-fed to start the season with season, should pay off going forward. A guy like Shead...it already has.
No
Adding BI slots everyone down a notch...that's good.

Etc...

Still need a good backup C

Scotty and RJ and Jak have all missed a fair number of games too.

[pbernardi]

I see this team well in a position to make a Kawhi-like trade in the next two seasons: trade one or two of our starters + youngers + pick(s) by a star/superstar. Will this happen? I do not know, but we have the pieces to potentially make it happen if the opportunity arises.

There are a big chance that some unhappy star/superstar demand a trade in near future: names like Booker, Giannis, Lamello, Trae Youg. Even Luka might want to leave LA, who knows? And lot of teams are above the 2nd apron, maybe we really stand a chance to land an additional star in the future.

[hyper316]

I see this team well in a position to make a Kawhi-like trade in the next two seasons: trade one or two of our starters + youngers + pick(s) by a star/superstar. Will this happen? I do not know, but we have the pieces to potentially make it happen if the opportunity arises.

There are a big chance that some unhappy star/superstar demand a trade in near future: names like Booker, Giannis, Lamello, Trae Youg. Even Luka might want to leave LA, who knows? And lot of teams are above the 2nd apron, maybe we really stand a chance to land an additional star in the future.

I think KD being available in offseason is a Kawhi-like trade opportunity. If we didn't have BI I would be for it, with BI I don't see the fit now.

[SFour]

I see this team well in a position to make a Kawhi-like trade in the next two seasons: trade one or two of our starters + youngers + pick(s) by a star/superstar. Will this happen? I do not know, but we have the pieces to potentially make it happen if the opportunity arises.

There are a big chance that some unhappy star/superstar demand a trade in near future: names like Booker, Giannis, Lamello, Trae Youg. Even Luka might want to leave LA, who knows? And lot of teams are above the 2nd apron, maybe we really stand a chance to land an additional star in the future.

I think KD being available in offseason is a Kawhi-like trade opportunity. If we didn't have BI I would be for it, with BI I don't see the fit now.

KD will be 37 going into next season.....Kawhi was 27 when we got him. KD only makes sense if you're getting him for cheap, even then his contract is still huge so you have to match that with a bunch of players.