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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1281 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Mar 7, 2025 12:18 am

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Credit for what??

Growth and development from the players Miami is invested in should be shamed and dismissed!

How dare you highlight positive developments during a developmental season after Jimmy tanked any prospect of competing.


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Every time I check Twitter there’s just more and more to add, SCREW THIS GUY!!!
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Post#1282 » by Beenie » Fri Mar 7, 2025 12:25 am

Bam getting back to a Gobert package level
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Post#1283 » by marson » Fri Mar 7, 2025 12:29 am

Beenie wrote:Bam getting back to a Gobert package level


Our best asset for Giannis imo. Let's see this summer.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1284 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Mar 7, 2025 12:39 am

Beenie wrote:Bam getting back to a Gobert package level


His value never dropped, the people making those deals know 6 years worth of data and being a huge catalyst in several deep playoff runs outweigh a bad shooting stretch.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1285 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Mar 7, 2025 12:39 am

marson wrote:
Beenie wrote:Bam getting back to a Gobert package level


Our best asset for Giannis imo. Let's see this summer.


Idk apparently Ware is more valuable, remember that 3 game stretch he had a month or 2 ago?
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1286 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:06 am

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Beenie wrote:Bam getting back to a Gobert package level


Our best asset for Giannis imo. Let's see this summer.

Bam is not getting traded for Giannis. The plan would be they would need to play together. They both have the same agent
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1287 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:08 am

You guys underestimate this franchises loyalty to its torch bearers. Bam ain’t going anywhere.
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Post#1288 » by marson » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:08 am

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Beenie wrote:Bam getting back to a Gobert package level


Our best asset for Giannis imo. Let's see this summer.

Bam is not getting traded for Giannis. The plan would be they would need to play together. They both have the same agent


Bron and AD have the same agent, and the plan is AD is the Lakers franchise player after LeBron retires.

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Post#1290 » by KingDavid » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:49 am

Oh I have to take back all the "Bam isn't a 1st option" yap I used to spew. He can do it if he's aggressive each game, but he typically wants to do things within the flow of the offense instead of forcing it. Fence-sitting like that is what's keeping that from being a permanent thing in his game. He was wonderful against cle.
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Post#1291 » by marson » Fri Mar 7, 2025 2:53 am

KingDavid wrote:Oh I have to take back all the "Bam isn't a 1st option" yap I used to spew. He can do it if he's aggressive each game, but he typically wants to do things within the flow of the offense instead of forcing it. Fence-sitting like that is what's keeping that from being a permanent thing in his game. He was wonderful against cle.


Top 10 player if he has the Bobby Portis/Julius Randle mentality in offense every game to just chuck along with elite defense.
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Post#1292 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:07 am

The thing about Bam is he’s going to do whatever he’s told to do and play the role he’s asked to play, it’s part of why he’s so liked and well respected league wide. If Spo decides he wants Bam to become the focal point of the offense like I’ve been hoping for (it won’t happen unfortunately he’ll be 3rd fiddle behind Herro and for whatever reason Wiggins) he’ll gladly accept that role. He’s said himself he wants that role, he’s specifically said he wants 18 shots a night but that’s not what Spo wants. Not knocking Spo by the way I’m just saying he values what Bam does elsewhere and we have guys making $30M+ a year to strictly score.

Hell Bam wanted to shoot 3s for years, it took a long time for Spo to allow it but it seems to be working out well ever since
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Post#1293 » by carnageta » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:19 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:The thing about Bam is he’s going to do whatever he’s told to do and play the role he’s asked to play, it’s part of why he’s so liked and well respected league wide. If Spo decides he wants Bam to become the focal point of the offense like I’ve been hoping for (it won’t happen unfortunately he’ll be 3rd fiddle behind Herro and for whatever reason Wiggins) he’ll gladly accept that role. He’s said himself he wants that role, he’s specifically said he wants 18 shots a night but that’s not what Spo wants. Not knocking Spo by the way I’m just saying he values what Bam does elsewhere and we have guys making $30M+ a year to strictly score.

Hell Bam wanted to shoot 3s for years, it took a long time for Spo to allow it but it seems to be working out well ever since


Bam isn't offensively sound enough to average 18 shots per game over the course of an entire season. He's been wanting to shoot 3s for years - yes - but he's continuously worked on refining his 3pt shot ever since he was drafted and as a result of that he is shooting 30% from 3pt land (which is still poor). He was nowhere ready to shoot 3s consistently years ago.

Some guys are lead players on offense, and some guys just aren't - even if you give them more shots. Bam isn't a #1 scoring option and giving him 18fga isn't going to change that.


Now if you can get him a pure PG, i.e. Chris Paul, to set him up I think his efficiency sky rockets and I think he could average 22-23ppg on 60% TS (probably 16-17 fga per game).
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Post#1294 » by marson » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:20 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:The thing about Bam is he’s going to do whatever he’s told to do and play the role he’s asked to play, it’s part of why he’s so liked and well respected league wide. If Spo decides he wants Bam to become the focal point of the offense like I’ve been hoping for (it won’t happen unfortunately he’ll be 3rd fiddle behind Herro and for whatever reason Wiggins) he’ll gladly accept that role. He’s said himself he wants that role, he’s specifically said he wants 18 shots a night but that’s not what Spo wants. Not knocking Spo by the way I’m just saying he values what Bam does elsewhere and we have guys making $30M+ a year to strictly score.

Hell Bam wanted to shoot 3s for years, it took a long time for Spo to allow it but it seems to be working out well ever since


Spo needs to step down if he’s not using his personnel properly. We've all seen how Bam performs when he's the focal point of the offense last game, super efficient with elite defense.

Time to fire Spo.
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Post#1295 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:33 am

marson wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:The thing about Bam is he’s going to do whatever he’s told to do and play the role he’s asked to play, it’s part of why he’s so liked and well respected league wide. If Spo decides he wants Bam to become the focal point of the offense like I’ve been hoping for (it won’t happen unfortunately he’ll be 3rd fiddle behind Herro and for whatever reason Wiggins) he’ll gladly accept that role. He’s said himself he wants that role, he’s specifically said he wants 18 shots a night but that’s not what Spo wants. Not knocking Spo by the way I’m just saying he values what Bam does elsewhere and we have guys making $30M+ a year to strictly score.

Hell Bam wanted to shoot 3s for years, it took a long time for Spo to allow it but it seems to be working out well ever since


Spo needs to step down if he’s not using his personnel properly. We've all seen how Bam performs when he's the focal point of the offense last game, super efficient with elite defense.

Time to fire Spo.


You’re probably trolling me lol but I personally think Spo is the best coach in the world despite imo maybe his worst coaching job of his career this season. With the way he’s used Bam we’ve made deep playoff runs so it’s hard to really complain but when we see nights like last night where he’s forced to use Bam as a first option and Bam aces the test it obviously is going to leave us wanting for more. There’s another level to his game, a lot of it is roster construction which Bam mentioned in an article today. Starting Ware has relieved him of some responsibility elsewhere and is allowing him to score more
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Post#1296 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:36 am

carnageta wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:The thing about Bam is he’s going to do whatever he’s told to do and play the role he’s asked to play, it’s part of why he’s so liked and well respected league wide. If Spo decides he wants Bam to become the focal point of the offense like I’ve been hoping for (it won’t happen unfortunately he’ll be 3rd fiddle behind Herro and for whatever reason Wiggins) he’ll gladly accept that role. He’s said himself he wants that role, he’s specifically said he wants 18 shots a night but that’s not what Spo wants. Not knocking Spo by the way I’m just saying he values what Bam does elsewhere and we have guys making $30M+ a year to strictly score.

Hell Bam wanted to shoot 3s for years, it took a long time for Spo to allow it but it seems to be working out well ever since


Bam isn't offensively sound enough to average 18 shots per game over the course of an entire season. He's been wanting to shoot 3s for years - yes - but he's continuously worked on refining his 3pt shot ever since he was drafted and as a result of that he is shooting 30% from 3pt land (which is still poor). He was nowhere ready to shoot 3s consistently years ago.

Some guys are lead players on offense, and some guys just aren't - even if you give them more shots. Bam isn't a #1 scoring option and giving him 18fga isn't going to change that.


Now if you can get him a pure PG, i.e. Chris Paul, to set him up I think his efficiency sky rockets and I think he could average 22-23ppg on 60% TS (probably 16-17 fga per game).


I disagree but fair enough, definitely agree with your last paragraph though.

My thing is, let’s see it. Let’s see him consistently as a focal point as a scorer and let’s see what he can do, then we can finally put this to rest one way or another. What better time to try it than now when we’re not competing? It can only help with his development on that side too imo getting high reps because when it’s championship time he needs to be your 3rd option, possibly 2nd depending on how he peaks at that end.

I’m happy with year 1 of the 3 ball experiment, we need growth in that area again next season and he’ll be a legit threat from there
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1297 » by marson » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:37 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:The thing about Bam is he’s going to do whatever he’s told to do and play the role he’s asked to play, it’s part of why he’s so liked and well respected league wide. If Spo decides he wants Bam to become the focal point of the offense like I’ve been hoping for (it won’t happen unfortunately he’ll be 3rd fiddle behind Herro and for whatever reason Wiggins) he’ll gladly accept that role. He’s said himself he wants that role, he’s specifically said he wants 18 shots a night but that’s not what Spo wants. Not knocking Spo by the way I’m just saying he values what Bam does elsewhere and we have guys making $30M+ a year to strictly score.

Hell Bam wanted to shoot 3s for years, it took a long time for Spo to allow it but it seems to be working out well ever since


Spo needs to step down if he’s not using his personnel properly. We've all seen how Bam performs when he's the focal point of the offense last game, super efficient with elite defense.

Time to fire Spo.


You’re probably trolling me lol but I personally think Spo is the best coach in the world despite imo maybe his worst coaching job of his career this season. With the way he’s used Bam we’ve made deep playoff runs so it’s hard to really complain but when we see nights like last night where he’s forced to use Bam as a first option and Bam aces the test it obviously is going to leave us wanting for more. There’s another level to his game, a lot of it is roster construction which Bam mentioned in an article today. Starting Ware has relieved him of some responsibility elsewhere and is allowing him to score more


I'm not. I don’t think he’s having a great season coaching, and the personnel choices he’s been making this year are really baffling.

I don't mind Bam being a focal point, as long as it's efficient and leads to wins—if that's the case, then who am I to question it?
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Post#1298 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Mar 7, 2025 3:44 am

marson wrote:
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Spo needs to step down if he’s not using his personnel properly. We've all seen how Bam performs when he's the focal point of the offense last game, super efficient with elite defense.

Time to fire Spo.


You’re probably trolling me lol but I personally think Spo is the best coach in the world despite imo maybe his worst coaching job of his career this season. With the way he’s used Bam we’ve made deep playoff runs so it’s hard to really complain but when we see nights like last night where he’s forced to use Bam as a first option and Bam aces the test it obviously is going to leave us wanting for more. There’s another level to his game, a lot of it is roster construction which Bam mentioned in an article today. Starting Ware has relieved him of some responsibility elsewhere and is allowing him to score more


I'm not. I don’t think he’s having a great season coaching, and the personnel choices he’s been making this year are really baffling.

I don't mind Bam being a focal point, as long as it's efficient and leads to wins—if that's the case, then who am I to question it?


I try to give the benefit of the doubt because of how crazy this season has been but I can’t find any excuse for the Terry stuff, not a single one. Like in what world did Terry deserve to lead the team with 40 minutes last night? He is actively sabotaging the season but Spo is also enabling it.

EDIT:

I’ve looked up Bams numbers with both Jimmy and Herro out over the years before:

Bams 1st 2 seasons as a starter: 22-9-7 on 65% shooting

Year 3: 20-10-7 52% shooting

Year 4: 21-11-5 on 50% shooting

Year 5 (last season): 25-13-5 on 59% shooting

This season: 34-12-5 77TS%

Total: 23-10-7 on 58% shooting.

To me that’s too big of a sample size at this point to just be coincidence.
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Post#1299 » by twix2500 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 11:25 am

Spo reveal a scheme to put Bam as a score first option vs Cavs. Something he has never done before. I really want to break it down but I don't trust Spo will run it again
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Post#1300 » by dolphinatik » Fri Mar 7, 2025 1:54 pm

I'm all for blaming Spo but he isn't alone here, there is an entire organization and don't office and assistant coaches, past players that can help him see the light. It's also in the players to give feedback. Guest coaches would also help.
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