How many of Jokic’s assists are real?

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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#41 » by cupcakesnake » Sat Mar 8, 2025 5:46 pm

Lol c'mon guys this is not unique to Jokic. This is literally how they track assists and it's basically always been this way.

I got bad news for you if you think most of Stockton's 15806 assists were all magically creative passes that immediately led to buckets. Go watch any high assist game from Russ, Nash, Magic, Kidd... you'll find a good number of them are just passes to a guy who scores in iso after. Or entry passes into a long post up.
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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#42 » by Raps in 4 » Sat Mar 8, 2025 5:48 pm

DowJones wrote:What do LA fans think of assist numbers for Luka and LeBron?


That tweet coming from a Lakers fan is peak irony. LeBron has been getting this kind of treatment from the scorer's table for decades.
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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#43 » by tribulations » Sat Mar 8, 2025 5:51 pm

All players benefit from the stats inflation era, not sure why Jokic is being called out?
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Post#44 » by QPR » Sat Mar 8, 2025 5:53 pm

It balances out because he should get two assists for some of his passes
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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#45 » by LeBronSpaghetti » Sat Mar 8, 2025 5:53 pm

Every single player gets the same treatment for assists. If anything someone like LeBron gets more preferential treatment. But of course with Jokic the haters are out in full force.
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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#46 » by og15 » Sat Mar 8, 2025 5:58 pm

tribulations wrote:All players benefit from the stats inflation era, not sure why Jokic is being called out?

The assists has nothing to do with this era. We might even argue that at least they tried to give more clarification for some, but this has been going on for 30+ years. You'd have to go back to the 60's, maybe early 70's to have more strict assists :lol:
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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#47 » by Infinite Llamas » Sat Mar 8, 2025 6:07 pm

Wow, did we have a thread when George McCloud had 22 assists in a game in the early 2000’s?

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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#48 » by Ainosterhaspie » Sat Mar 8, 2025 6:11 pm

tribulations wrote:All players benefit from the stats inflation era, not sure why Jokic is being called out?

Because people get mad any time it's not their favorite player who got big numbers.
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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#49 » by Doctor MJ » Sat Mar 8, 2025 6:12 pm

General advice:

Don’t take subjective box score stats that seriously.
If you feel you must, focus on away stats.


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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#50 » by Accurim » Sat Mar 8, 2025 6:12 pm

TIL NBA likes increasing stats and talking about stats.
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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#51 » by Raps in 4 » Sat Mar 8, 2025 6:18 pm

tribulations wrote:All players benefit from the stats inflation era, not sure why Jokic is being called out?


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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#52 » by HotRocks34 » Sat Mar 8, 2025 6:26 pm

The 30/20/20 game has scarred people for life. LOL!

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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#53 » by Optms » Sat Mar 8, 2025 6:31 pm

I don't care about assists for this reason due to blatant score keeping. He's just a better version of Westbrook only he's getting assists from the score keepers.
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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#54 » by Exp0sed » Sat Mar 8, 2025 6:39 pm

Beethoven wrote:Good to know. Pretty nullifies yesterday's feat possibly, not officially though of course.


he's not getting any special treatment..these are usually count as assists for everyone. why isn't everyone avging 10+ assists?

it's also a very small portion of his assists, anyone who actually watches him would know that, if there was a stat for generating open looks for teammates in favorable positions in particular dunks, open lay-ups and open 3's - Jokic would be the leading that stat by a mile...
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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#55 » by Luke » Sat Mar 8, 2025 7:38 pm

More real than the king of the stat padders ...



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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#56 » by og15 » Sat Mar 8, 2025 7:42 pm

Exp0sed wrote:
Beethoven wrote:Good to know. Pretty nullifies yesterday's feat possibly, not officially though of course.


he's not getting any special treatment..these are usually count as assists for everyone. why isn't everyone avging 10+ assists?

it's also a very small portion of his assists, anyone who actually watches him would know that, if there was a stat for generating open looks for teammates in favorable positions in particular dunks, open lay-ups and open 3's - Jokic would be the leading that stat by a mile...

Closest thing you can get on a widely available stat would be potential assists

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/passing?dir=D&sort=POTENTIAL_AST
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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#57 » by HotRocks34 » Sat Mar 8, 2025 7:50 pm

Luke wrote:More real than the king of the stat padders ...






To be fair, it's not just Jokic or LeBron. It's all the stars.

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Assists is a subjective stat, at least sometimes. My general outlook is that I know one when I see it, meaning "yeah that guy isn't getting that shot without the previous pass."
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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#58 » by jordanwilliams6 » Sat Mar 8, 2025 7:51 pm

Every single player in the league would receive questionable assists. It’s the nature of the stat due to subjective score keeping.

Do you think there’s a league wide conspiracy to pump up his stats? He averages the same amount of assist on the road as he does at home so you believe the opposition scorekeepers are in on it too?

Tall poppy syndrome is alive and well here. The better you get, the more people try and bring you down.
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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#59 » by Lalouie » Sat Mar 8, 2025 7:58 pm

they could change it easily if they wanted

ASSISTS ARE ONLY COUNTED IF THEY LEAD TO A 1 OR 2 STEP, OR 1 DRIBBLE BUCKET

it would the most easily enforced stat in basketball. it would prolly lead to a 90% drop in apg but who cares. pgs will get their flowers regardless
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Re: How many of Jokic’s assists are real? 

Post#60 » by RubberSoul » Sat Mar 8, 2025 8:00 pm

TheNG wrote:His points are not real either

This is where I’m at nothing is real I think we are all in a giant simulation. Jokic is just a glitch in the matrix at this point imo.


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