Bulls vs Nets 7pm CT Mar. 13 2025

[kodo]

In March, through 6 games, Coby is putting up 29.3 pts, 5.5 rebs, 3.3 ast on a 49% FG, 35% 3PT, 90% FT, 61.6% TS.

He's looked a lot better just being a scorer and giving all PG duties to Giddey/Tre.
But everyone on this board said that before the first game of the season. Least surprising thing coming out of this year.

I remember even before we drafted him, he said he never played the point in his life before North Carolina. He was never a PG.

[DASMACKDOWN]

As we saw during the game, there is nothing more obvious to why we are bad on defense with Vooch in the game.

He was the definition of tank commander this game.

[ChettheJet]

I will never get the people who are so eager to lose. I've never played any kind of game and was willing to lose and there was never draft involved. I can only think almost all of you never played anything competitively and took any pride in winning.

Matas got clothes lined I imagine he wasn't in at the end because maybe he was lightheaded or to be cautious. Either way it was smart. Phillips and Patrick can stand to play more minutes. Collins and Smith both move much better than Vuc on both ends and can score in different ways. Vuc is needed less on offense because Giddey, Lonzo, Huerter and Matas can shoot the ball more than anybody they replaced like Terry, Caruso, except of course Lavine.

I still need to see how these players finish the season. I think Lonzo being out makes it harder to win and probably cost them some games. Giddey missing a couple shows you what he brings.

Unless there's a huge change I want to end up with Ball, Giddey, Huerter and Jones. Even with 3 guys injured there are still tooo many guards and few really stand out head and shoulders above the rest. I know that probably means moving on from fan favorites like White and Dosunmu but the roof of the UC didn't collapse when they traded Caruso. Coby looks like he's the man right now, how much money are you willing to pay him when you've seen his entire career? The people who think extending PWill was a bad move, are you willing to pay Coby the big money not knowing if anyone would be willing to offer him that much? There were several off seasons where Ayo made progress, are you willing to bet the money you're willing to pay him that those jumps keep coming? And do you do that before finding out if any other team thinks he's worth a bigger contract?

Huerter at 6-7 plays like he's 6-7, the defense pays attention to him behind the arc. The Bulls don't have a guard who can do the things that Tre Jones can and does. We had Chris Duhon, Nate Robinson, Justin Holiday, CJ Watson who were good at some things but not really floor leaders. Remember the difference Rajon Rondo made because he controlled the ball and the game. Jones isn't at that level but off the bench he does that for the Bulls. In those games we've all seen where they're down 15-18 points, the bench comes in and brings them back so you want to keep them in the game Jones is the type of guy you need to keep that flow going.

[NecessaryEvil]

Bully Ball SG Coby starting to look like a keeper???

Makes no sense to move him

One of the best young scoring guards in the L

I like Coby, but have mixed thoughts about this. What do you think his next contract will look like?

Is the plan to have a "big three" of Giddey, Cody and Matas? I don't see that team going very far.

Truth but they have a ton of upside and guys will want to play with a pass first guard/forward like J Giddey. Both and and Coby are also clutch. Great traits for the guys that’ll have the ball the most going forward.

Just going to have to build through trades and FA if we aren’t going to rebuild via picks like a competent front office

*shrugs shoulders*

[WesPeace]

Vuc is the tank commander.

I'm not sure why we coddle and bend over backwards so much to appease Vucevic. At this point I'd clearly tell him he's the third-string center for the rest of the season and that we'll look to trade him somewhere he wants to be in the offseason, and barring that, that we'll work with him on a buyout.

If Collins and Smith are healthy, they should play every minute available at the center position.

Vuc's services are no longer needed.

Vucevic doesn't help us win

Vucevic isn't a young player we're looking to earn experience

Vucevic is not improving his trade value by playing

Vucevic alone isn't enough of a tank commander to meaningfully impact our draft position

There's 0 reason to be playing Vucevic.


And my last thoughts on the game. I'm not sure we re-sign Tre Jones or not, but just a reminder that sign and trades seem to be more popular than ever. Our options aren't limited to re-signing him or losing him for nothing.

Well I can agree with you on some part for Vooch, but NOT playing him at all, you will kill almost all his trade value..
It will be almost impossible to trade him in summer?! AKME failure again to not trade him this past deadline..

[ShouldaPaidBG]

I'm willing to sign Tre Jones to 25 mpg for the next 5 years at any number under 20m

[sco]

I will never get the people who are so eager to lose. I've never played any kind of game and was willing to lose and there was never draft involved. I can only think almost all of you never played anything competitively and took any pride in winning.

Matas got clothes lined I imagine he wasn't in at the end because maybe he was lightheaded or to be cautious. Either way it was smart. Phillips and Patrick can stand to play more minutes. Collins and Smith both move much better than Vuc on both ends and can score in different ways. Vuc is needed less on offense because Giddey, Lonzo, Huerter and Matas can shoot the ball more than anybody they replaced like Terry, Caruso, except of course Lavine.

I still need to see how these players finish the season. I think Lonzo being out makes it harder to win and probably cost them some games. Giddey missing a couple shows you what he brings.

Unless there's a huge change I want to end up with Ball, Giddey, Huerter and Jones. Even with 3 guys injured there are still tooo many guards and few really stand out head and shoulders above the rest. I know that probably means moving on from fan favorites like White and Dosunmu but the roof of the UC didn't collapse when they traded Caruso. Coby looks like he's the man right now, how much money are you willing to pay him when you've seen his entire career? The people who think extending PWill was a bad move, are you willing to pay Coby the big money not knowing if anyone would be willing to offer him that much? There were several off seasons where Ayo made progress, are you willing to bet the money you're willing to pay him that those jumps keep coming? And do you do that before finding out if any other team thinks he's worth a bigger contract?

Huerter at 6-7 plays like he's 6-7, the defense pays attention to him behind the arc. The Bulls don't have a guard who can do the things that Tre Jones can and does. We had Chris Duhon, Nate Robinson, Justin Holiday, CJ Watson who were good at some things but not really floor leaders. Remember the difference Rajon Rondo made because he controlled the ball and the game. Jones isn't at that level but off the bench he does that for the Bulls. In those games we've all seen where they're down 15-18 points, the bench comes in and brings them back so you want to keep them in the game Jones is the type of guy you need to keep that flow going.

I'm generally with you. I think I prefer Jones to Ayo, but definitely don't need both as they play the same role. If we keep Heurter and Jones, then I could see trading Ball too as there is a lot of overlap there.

On Coby, on the one hand, I think SG is the ideal spot to bring in a #1, so if we can trade Coby for a good return, it makes sense. On the other hand, if getting rid of Zach was his catalyst, we have next season to confirm whether this is a hot streak or a true trajectory change. I'll say that it would be pretty hard to actually find anyone via trade, draft or FA given our current assets that is better than Coby is playing now.

Looking at our roster we could definitely benefit from adding a #1 option, but it's not hard to root for this quasi-core of Giddey, White, Ball, Smith, Collins, Huerter and Matas...plus one of Ayo or Jones. The flipside of adding a #1 to that group is that we lose the lift we gained from Giddey and White assuming bigger roles.

[drosestruts]

Vuc is the tank commander.

I'm not sure why we coddle and bend over backwards so much to appease Vucevic. At this point I'd clearly tell him he's the third-string center for the rest of the season and that we'll look to trade him somewhere he wants to be in the offseason, and barring that, that we'll work with him on a buyout.

If Collins and Smith are healthy, they should play every minute available at the center position.

Vuc's services are no longer needed.

Vucevic doesn't help us win

Vucevic isn't a young player we're looking to earn experience

Vucevic is not improving his trade value by playing

Vucevic alone isn't enough of a tank commander to meaningfully impact our draft position

There's 0 reason to be playing Vucevic.


And my last thoughts on the game. I'm not sure we re-sign Tre Jones or not, but just a reminder that sign and trades seem to be more popular than ever. Our options aren't limited to re-signing him or losing him for nothing.

Well I can agree with you on some part for Vooch, but NOT playing him at all, you will kill almost all his trade value..
It will be almost impossible to trade him in summer?! AKME failure again to not trade him this past deadline..

I'm of the opinion that there's no trade value to kill.

The most appealing thing about Vucevic is not Vuc the player but rather Vuc the expiring contract.

The value of being an expiring contract doesn't change with more or less (or no) minutes.

[DropStep]

Vuc is the tank commander.

...There's 0 reason to be playing Vucevic.

Well I can agree with you on some part for Vooch, but NOT playing him at all, you will kill almost all his trade value..
It will be almost impossible to trade him in summer?! AKME failure again to not trade him this past deadline..

Look how much the Thunder benching Giddey for two playoff games follows him around for life.