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Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG

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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#201 » by Wildcat » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:28 am

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Guano wrote:Dorks on here make it really hard to like these rookies cause they act like having a nice lil run against the tanking wiz makes their dipsht Stockton comparisons legit.


I swear this is BS. Most of us believe he’s capable of providing spot mins while letting Brunson or Deuce rest and getting realtime game mins to develop.


Pls, you've been here long enough to know that some around here make outlandish comparisons about our rookies and then see a lil light and peacock about their shtty takes. Then those that call em out on it are labeled "haters"... which we can be but that doesn't take away from my point.


Yes, that's been a thing for years. Decades even. Eventually, the fans do get it right. Comparing and outright stating their going to be All NBA players are differet, though. This team has had some diamond in the roughs -- when given the chance -- have produced. IQ. Deuce (even if I am disappointed with him this year).
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#202 » by mpharris36 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:28 am

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mcbride and brunson are both out and he's next in line after cam. i don't think there's any conspiracy here.


there isn't, he just a stubborn mule that is only forced to play young guys out of desperation.


i don't think that's fully true. we're playing a terrible team so he's not getting exposed on d. but if you're young and can play d thibs will often play you. history has shown that. quick and grimes got minutes early. even this year they traded sims away partially because they decided that hukporti was ready. if he didn't get hurt he would have been getting those minutes.


this isn't the first terrible team we have faced all year though.

We have been through this. Payton was his starter all year because of NET rating (getting carried by starters). Payne isn't being removed because of NET rating (mostly due to our early season success).

But the offense has been bogged down since all-star break and especially with Brunson out it would be nice to have a guard get us easy buckets.

Kolek would get hunted vs a team like BOS or CLE...I get that. TJ McConnell still finds a way to be productive in his minutes...and you can see Kolek isn't a horrible defender...he just not overly fast or strong. But he is a good off ball defender that gets his hands in passing lanes and knows where to be on rotations.

Thibs is a guy that has a rotation and basically sticks to it. Yes defense probably gets you on the court quicker than offense with thibs...I agree...but then there is a clear disconnect with FO and THibs....they drafted Kolek to be a helpful ball handler for the bench. You have said we need another ball handler...we have him in a bench capacity but he never plays.
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#203 » by Guano » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:28 am

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Guano wrote:Dorks on here make it really hard to like these rookies cause they act like having a nice lil run against the tanking wiz makes their dipsht Stockton comparisons legit.


I swear this is BS. Most of us believe he’s capable of providing spot mins while letting Brunson or Deuce rest and getting realtime game mins to develop.


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He's different, but has the skills and mindset to be a top player in the league



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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#204 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:29 am

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JayTWill wrote:Why couldn't Kolek play against the Hornets?


Deuce played. Thibs is only finally playing Kolek because he's last man on deck with Deuce out tonight


I understand but Deuce has played the 2 next to Payne and Brunson most of the season. He could have played the 2 next Kolek and Payne against the Hornets.


Yes, I get your point, but the facts are Thibs only played him once he was down to 2 guards
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#205 » by JayTWill » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:29 am

god shammgod wrote:
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mcbride and brunson are both out and he's next in line after cam. i don't think there's any conspiracy here.


there isn't, he just a stubborn mule that is only forced to play young guys out of desperation.


i don't think that's fully true. we're playing a terrible team so he's not getting exposed on d. but if you're young and can play d thibs will often play you. history has shown that. quick and grimes got minutes early. even this year they traded sims away partially because they decided that hukporti was ready. if he didn't get hurt he would have been getting those minutes.


Shouldn't Kolek be able to get minutes against the Spurs or Hornets with how the team looked? Deuce is the back up 2. Brunson is out. Thibs chose to move Deuce to 1 full time and run a short rotation
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#206 » by GettinitDone » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:30 am

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Guano wrote:Dorks on here make it really hard to like these rookies cause they act like having a nice lil run against the tanking wiz makes their dipsht Stockton comparisons legit.


This team just lost against 2 tanking teams ......


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Yes, what are you gonna say now GUano

Under Daignault, Lue, Spo, Kenny, Kerr, Kolek would have got 6-9 mpg consistently every night, even in tight games. This fool just wasted 85% of the season tiring the key players and wasting away the bench players

WOW all these players previously buried and couldn't play SUDDENLY could play when they got minutes
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#207 » by Guano » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:30 am

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I swear this is BS. Most of us believe he’s capable of providing spot mins while letting Brunson or Deuce rest and getting realtime game mins to develop.


Pls, you've been here long enough to know that some around here make outlandish comparisons about our rookies and then see a lil light and peacock about their shtty takes. Then those that call em out on it are labeled "haters"... which we can be but that doesn't take away from my point.


Yes, that's been a thing for years. Decades even. Eventually, the fans do get it right. Comparing and outright stating their going to be All NBA players are differet, though. This team has had some diamond in the roughs -- when given the chance -- have produced. IQ. Deuce (even if I am disappointed with him this year).


That's reasonable saying he can be a top player in the league or comparing him to Stockton is fckign ridiculous

Most of us think he and 3pac should have been getting run.

His shtty defense and thibs short leash aren't a good marriage.
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#208 » by Wildcat » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:30 am

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Deuce played. Thibs is only finally playing Kolek because he's last man on deck with Deuce out tonight


I understand but Deuce has played the 2 next to Payne and Brunson most of the season. He could have played the 2 next Kolek and Payne against the Hornets.


Yes, I get your point, but the facts are Thibs only played him once he was down to 2 guards


A painful fact.
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#209 » by robillionaire » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:31 am

I understandably don’t watch much wizards but sarr looks kinda bad
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#210 » by mpharris36 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:31 am

damn your team is tanking and you getting tech's and losing money

I could never...my mouth would be shut :lol:
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#211 » by mpharris36 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:33 am

robillionaire wrote:I understandably don’t watch much wizards but sarr looks kinda bad


he's actually played really well of late.

terrible game today though
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#212 » by Guano » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:33 am

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god shammgod wrote:guano you're right. i forgot how crazy this place is lol


You're the one who failed to see the irony of your hysterical meltdown earlier today calling the board a bunch of white bitches so spare us the crazy talk.


You're an expert on hysterical meltdowns.
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#213 » by robillionaire » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:34 am

mpharris36 wrote:damn your team is tanking and you getting tech's and losing money

I could never...my mouth would be shut :lol:


I often forget that techs cost the players money. It’s basically the equivalent of a pack of skittles for most of them and they don’t care but some of these minimum salary guys might not want it
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#214 » by Guano » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:36 am

Give kat the rest of the night off
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#215 » by robillionaire » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:36 am

light em up kat
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#216 » by mpharris36 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:36 am

WASH doesn't have the personnel to play the wing on KAT.

When teams try to play a center on KAT he absolutely cooks them.
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#217 » by HEZI » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:36 am

None of these Wizards rookies look like they will amount to much. Pretty weak draft overall
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#218 » by mpharris36 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:37 am

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mpharris36 wrote:damn your team is tanking and you getting tech's and losing money

I could never...my mouth would be shut :lol:


I often forget that techs cost the players money. It’s basically the equivalent of a pack of skittles for most of them and they don’t care but some of these minimum salary guys might not want it


You're right they probably wipe there ass with 2k...but man thats a tough pill to swallow on a team that is basically playing for Cooper Flagg.
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#219 » by Guano » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:37 am

HEZI wrote:None of these Wizards rookies look like they will amount to much. Pretty weak draft overall


The actually hit on their picks this year.
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Re: Game Thread: Knicks vs Wizards 8:00 Sat 3/22 MSG 

Post#220 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:38 am

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Yes, that's been a thing for years. Decades even. Eventually, the fans do get it right. Comparing and outright stating their going to be All NBA players are differet, though. This team has had some diamond in the roughs -- when given the chance -- have produced. IQ. Deuce (even if I am disappointed with him this year).


Yes, but the others remove context and only care about stickying a comment so they can mock it into eternity.

Comparisons are about TYPES of players and to some degree about potential, not current levels of achievement.

Saying Grimes is in the Klay mold was accurate. It did not mean he was an All-Star, but trolls don't care about the truth, just being trolls.

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