2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V

[bwgood77]

Surprised to see AD is back for Dallas. Kind of thought they'd hold him out. I guess Gafford is expected back next week.

He is on the Nico Is Right train and I'm sure he doesn't want his debut game to be potentially his last game in the Mavs uniform.

They have a easier schedule compare to ours, the Kings however have as tough of a schedule as ours. They beat the Cavs but had since lost 3 in a row. They still have to play Thunder, Cavs, Pacers, Nuggets and Clippers, but then they also have Wizard and Hornet in between. And then the last game in the schedule is on our home court, that might be the game to decide who gets that last play-in spot.

Yeah, great win last night for us, but Dallas has a lot easier schedule, but you are right that Sac has a fairly tough schedule too, kind of in between ours. Plus, OKC may rest players at that point, though I kind of hate earning a spot based on that. I'd rather see us beat teams at full strength.

[Ghost of Kleine]

NOPE!

First off, that will likely be the best offer out there. Second - I would do pretty much anything to get him off this team.
Never cared for him that much, and by now I m just plain disgusted. In 30+ years of fandom this is the first time I don't even check the box scores and contribute about 0 to Suns forums. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Your feelings aside, its a garbage offer compared to what one of the younger teams like Houston or Dallas may offer in my opinion which is not feelings based.

But also depends upon what destinations he's amenable to go to if he gets traded at all this summer?

[Fo-Real]

First off, that will likely be the best offer out there. Second - I would do pretty much anything to get him off this team.
Never cared for him that much, and by now I m just plain disgusted. In 30+ years of fandom this is the first time I don't even check the box scores and contribute about 0 to Suns forums. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Your feelings aside, its a garbage offer compared to what one of the younger teams like Houston or Dallas may offer in my opinion which is not feelings based.

But also depends upon what destinations he's amenable to go to if he gets traded at all this summer?

Without question.

[Puff]

If we do trade KD it is a very good thing that he is playing so well. It should move his trade value even higher.

It is also nice to have Book and KD playing together and so hard on the defensive end. If we would not have turned the ball over so much last night could have been a blow out. That has been the story all season.

[Fo-Real]

If we do trade KD it is a very good thing that he is playing so well. It should move his trade value even higher.

It is also nice to have Book and KD playing together and so hard on the defensive end. If we would not have turned the ball over so much last night could have been a blow out. That has been the story all season.

Its actually jolting how much KD actually turns the ball over. Getting ripped and silly lazy passes.... its maddening!!

[Revived]

If we do trade KD it is a very good thing that he is playing so well. It should move his trade value even higher.

It is also nice to have Book and KD playing together and so hard on the defensive end. If we would not have turned the ball over so much last night could have been a blow out. That has been the story all season.

Its actually jolting how much KD actually turns the ball over. Getting ripped and silly lazy passes.... its maddening!!

Turnovers from dribbling have always been an issue with KD. Even back in his actual prime with OKC.

I think it’s because he’s so tall but he dribble like a guard so he doesn’t get low enough and that makes it easier for defenders to get his cookies. And he doesn’t have the quickness he had in OKC so now his crossover dribbles are much slower and easier to time.

I think he has the worst ball handling skills by far out of any perimeter player in the top 20 all time list.

[Revived]

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If they can add Jovic too then yeah I think I’d do this. Only if Houston doesn’t want KD for all our picks back plus Whitmore and Jabari.

[Saberestar]

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If they can add Jovic too then yeah I think I’d do this. Only if Houston doesn’t want KD for all our picks back plus Whitmore and Jabari.

That's a terrible offer and we would ignore it.

The Heat were interested in KD at the deadline and it was said that our FO asked for every positive asset from the Heat. "Everything". And that was with Jimmy Butler going to the Suns...imagine without him lol.

Not happening.

[Revived]

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If they can add Jovic too then yeah I think I’d do this. Only if Houston doesn’t want KD for all our picks back plus Whitmore and Jabari.

That's a terrible offer and we would ignore it.

The Heat were interested in KD at the deadline and it was said that our FO asked for every positive asset from the Heat. "Everything". And that was with Jimmy Butler going to the Suns...imagine without him lol.

Not happening.

We would be stupid to ignore it. KD is 35 and on an expiring contract. Ware is a blue chip prospect that can be a franchise C for this team. The first rd picks can be used to draft some wing players to replace KD. Booker/Dunn/Ware plus good selections in the draft would do this team well.

And I don’t care what our FO asked for. We have the second dumbest FO in the NBA after the Mavs. That’s why a team with the highest payroll in NBA history is dog**** with zero draft picks and cap flexibility.

[Saberestar]

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If they can add Jovic too then yeah I think I’d do this. Only if Houston doesn’t want KD for all our picks back plus Whitmore and Jabari.

That's a terrible offer and we would ignore it.

The Heat were interested in KD at the deadline and it was said that our FO asked for every positive asset from the Heat. "Everything". And that was with Jimmy Butler going to the Suns...imagine without him lol.

Not happening.

We would be stupid to ignore it. KD is 35 and on an expiring contract. Ware is a blue chip prospect that can be a franchise C for this team. The first rd picks can be used to draft some wing players to replace KD. Booker/Dunn/Ware plus good selections in the draft would do this team well.

And I don’t care what our FO asked for. We have the second dumbest FO in the NBA after the Mavs. That’s why a team with the highest payroll in NBA history is dog**** with zero draft picks and cap flexibility.

We traded #22 for #28 and a couple of 2nds and drafted Dunn there and after that we got Oso at #40...so I don't think our FO is that bad at all.

That was an amazing draft night with just a low pick. We can do it again.

[wheezy]

Surprised to see AD is back for Dallas. Kind of thought they'd hold him out. I guess Gafford is expected back next week.

He is on the Nico Is Right train and I'm sure he doesn't want his debut game to be potentially his last game in the Mavs uniform.

They have a easier schedule compare to ours, the Kings however have as tough of a schedule as ours. They beat the Cavs but had since lost 3 in a row. They still have to play Thunder, Cavs, Pacers, Nuggets and Clippers, but then they also have Wizard and Hornet in between. And then the last game in the schedule is on our home court, that might be the game to decide who gets that last play-in spot.

Wtf happened to the Kings? A couple seasons ago it seemed like they were about the turn the corner and start making the playoffs every year now they're back to being a bit of a mess.

[Sunsdeuce]

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If they can add Jovic too then yeah I think I’d do this. Only if Houston doesn’t want KD for all our picks back plus Whitmore and Jabari.

Don’t want to touch Rozier or Robinson with a 10 foot pole! That’s such a trash trade offer.

[Fo-Real]

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If they can add Jovic too then yeah I think I’d do this. Only if Houston doesn’t want KD for all our picks back plus Whitmore and Jabari.

That's a terrible offer and we would ignore it.

The Heat were interested in KD at the deadline and it was said that our FO asked for every positive asset from the Heat. "Everything". And that was with Jimmy Butler going to the Suns...imagine without him lol.

Not happening.

Thank you!

[Fo-Real]

Surprised to see AD is back for Dallas. Kind of thought they'd hold him out. I guess Gafford is expected back next week.

He is on the Nico Is Right train and I'm sure he doesn't want his debut game to be potentially his last game in the Mavs uniform.

They have a easier schedule compare to ours, the Kings however have as tough of a schedule as ours. They beat the Cavs but had since lost 3 in a row. They still have to play Thunder, Cavs, Pacers, Nuggets and Clippers, but then they also have Wizard and Hornet in between. And then the last game in the schedule is on our home court, that might be the game to decide who gets that last play-in spot.

Wtf happened to the Kings? A couple seasons ago it seemed like they were about the turn the corner and start making the playoffs every year now they're back to being a bit of a mess.

They ran De'Aaron Fox off!!

[ChuckS]

If we do trade KD it is a very good thing that he is playing so well. It should move his trade value even higher.

It is also nice to have Book and KD playing together and so hard on the defensive end. If we would not have turned the ball over so much last night could have been a blow out. That has been the story all season.

Its actually jolting how much KD actually turns the ball over. Getting ripped and silly lazy passes.... its maddening!!

Turnovers from dribbling have always been an issue with KD. Even back in his actual prime with OKC.

I think it’s because he’s so tall but he dribble like a guard so he doesn’t get low enough and that makes it easier for defenders to get his cookies. And he doesn’t have the quickness he had in OKC so now his crossover dribbles are much slower and easier to time.

I think he has the worst ball handling skills by far out of any perimeter player in the top 20 all time list.

I cannot disagree with most of the turnover complaints. TO"s are annoying and harmful. There seems to be, however, a correlation with the most dangerous offensive threats, who need to be doubled, trapped, or worse, the overall competence of the team, and, I think, the quality of its point guard. For example, KD averaged 2.7 per game in his three years with GS, vs the 3.2 of his career and with the Suns. Michael Jordan averaged 2.7 averaging 30.1 pts for a career.

KD is 23d (TOs per game) while being sixth in scoring average (27.2 PPG) in NBA history. This year he is sixth in scoring average and tenth in turnovers. For perspective, he is behind Young (4.8 per), Cunningham (4,5), Harden (4.4), James (3.9), Jokic (3.3), Giannis, Pool, and Westbrook (3.2), with his at 3.1per.

In summary, looking at the NBA's ten all time leading scorers, KD is second lowest to Jordan for turnovers per game. Those are his real peers. Frankly, I would not want to see him be less aggressive because of our reasonable upset with overall team turnovers. And I think he is basketball smart enough not to be. I'm sure, though, as a perfectionist, he is working on improvement without sacrificing dominance.

[Saberestar]

Well, everyone and his mom needs to cheer up for the Knicks today.

The Mavs @ New York without Anthony Davis because he will not play on a back-to-back. Big time opportunity to go 0.5 games over them.

The Kings play at home against the Thunder. Tough game for them too. Monk is questionable and I think he is huge for the Kings.

[Saberestar]

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[SunsRback4Good]

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If they can add Jovic too then yeah I think I’d do this. Only if Houston doesn’t want KD for all our picks back plus Whitmore and Jabari.

That's a terrible offer and we would ignore it.

The Heat were interested in KD at the deadline and it was said that our FO asked for every positive asset from the Heat. "Everything". And that was with Jimmy Butler going to the Suns...imagine without him lol.

Not happening.

Thank you!

You’re welcome my child.

[Revived]

Yall think 35 yr old KD on an expiring deal is gonna get back anything close to what the Suns gave up for him (which is effectively like 9 first kind picks considering how much Mikal was traded for) then yall in for a rule awakening.

I think many Heat fans will probably not be down with trading Ware for KD.

[BobbieL]

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trade them to the same team than

Cannot believe how a few wins and people are like "lets keep them together!!"

Nope - they both still need to be traded.