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[GONYK]

is that a rhetorical question?

*QBs aside from Ward/Sanders

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he is visiting the Giants today with Abdul Carter. I think some are just connecting the dots that a daboll system of RPO's and taking deep shots kinda fits what Milroe does best and we can sit him all year in our situation.

Its still a long shot because he just isn't ready to play QB at the NFL level right now so its certainly a big gamble.

Emory Hunt is a pretty big endorsement for Milroe.

[mpharris36]

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Carter is showing up tonight to have dinner with the Giants and have his visit tomorrow with us. But he was in Indy to do a medical recheck. No surgery required.

[MrDollarBills]

is that a rhetorical question?

*QBs aside from Ward/Sanders

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he is visiting the Giants today with Abdul Carter. I think some are just connecting the dots that a daboll system of RPO's and taking deep shots kinda fits what Milroe does best and we can sit him all year in our situation.

Its still a long shot because he just isn't ready to play QB at the NFL level right now so its certainly a big gamble.

I don't feel comfortable using our 2nd rd pick on a project QB when we need plug and play help

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if we get him, i hope it's in the 3rd round or something

the problem with getting him in the 2nd is that it comes with the expectation or at least there will be some level of pressure to play him in year 1 but i really do think he needs AT LEAST a full year of bench seasoning

I honestly don't think the 2nd or 3rd round is the difference between needing him to play in year 1 or not. If you like his traits (and its the traits that Daboll typically likes in his QBs) then you invest if you believe he's legit.

They set up there QB room that he wouldn't need to play in year 1 which is a good thing. He needs a year learning for sure.

Would I like him more in round 3...but there is basically no chance you get him in round 3. Knowing you will sit him your probably want to get the 5th year option which means a small small move back into the late 1st like the Ravens did with Lamar.

there's no way trading back into the 1st for jalen milroe is the play here. i'm doubtful i even want him in the 2nd

[Deeeez Knicks]

The biggest knock on drafting a developmental QB is that the front office and coaching staff could very well be fired before he takes an NFL snap. Who knows what kind of QB the next regime will want

[TerrenceClarke]

Lamar is a player that fell. He was supposed to be a top 10 pick, but false narratives made him fall.

So the Ravens trading back into the first made sense. He was great value who they recognized as falling. It would be the equivalent of if SS fell to that range.

With Milroe…we are potentially trading up or using a high second for player who by all accounts is closer to a third round talent at the position.

So we are technically overspending or reaching if we make that move.

Lamar and Milroe are not in the same stratosphere as prospects. Lamar was a much better college player than Milroe was.

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[Ghetto Gospel]

Lamar is a player that fell. He was supposed to be a top 10 pick, but false narratives made him fall.

So the Ravens trading back into the first made sense. He was great value who they recognized as falling. It would be the equivalent of if SS fell to that range.

With Milroe…we are potentially trading up or using a high second for player who by all accounts is closer to a third round talent at the position.

So we are technically overspending or reaching if we make that move.

Lamar and Milroe are not in the same stratosphere as prospects. Lamar was a much better college player than Milroe was.

jalen milroe played for one of the top college programs with some of the best coaches to help develop and teach him, had the monstars from space jam as his teammates and not only could he not get it done, he was the reason that team failed.

i get that everyone develops on their own schedule but he had the best support staff and situation to do it and it just never happened. taking him early is too big of a risk, mid to later round picks is where it makes sense

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kinda makes me feel travis hunter at 2 is an open secret now and he's just trying to get himself drafted at 3

[GONYK]

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kinda makes me feel travis hunter at 2 is an open secret now and he's just trying to get himself drafted at 3

We should be drafting him at 3 whether he's trying or not

[MrDollarBills]

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kinda makes me feel travis hunter at 2 is an open secret now and he's just trying to get himself drafted at 3

We should be drafting him at 3 whether he's trying or not

My dream of Nabers and Hunter together is dead.

However, adding Carter to our line with the improvements in the secondary is a very nice consolation prize and we can probably look forward to our defense being legit.

I would like to draft a WR in Round 3 now though. We need another talented receiver to push for time because I don't think Robinson or Hyatt are it at WR3. Hell Slayton at WR2 doesn't excite me either.

[Ghetto Gospel]

kinda makes me feel travis hunter at 2 is an open secret now and he's just trying to get himself drafted at 3

We should be drafting him at 3 whether he's trying or not

My dream of Nabers and Hunter together is dead.

However, adding Carter to our line with the improvements in the secondary is a very nice consolation prize and we can probably look forward to our defense being legit.

I would like to draft a WR in Round 3 now though. We need another talented receiver to push for time because I don't think Robinson or Hyatt are it at WR3. Hell Slayton at WR2 doesn't excite me either.

same, my only concern now is the fit with brian burns and abdul carter against the run but we'll figure that out when we get there.

i'm with you on needing another WR. another OL with our 2nd or 3rd rounder would be ideal too

[mpharris36]

We should be drafting him at 3 whether he's trying or not

My dream of Nabers and Hunter together is dead.

However, adding Carter to our line with the improvements in the secondary is a very nice consolation prize and we can probably look forward to our defense being legit.

I would like to draft a WR in Round 3 now though. We need another talented receiver to push for time because I don't think Robinson or Hyatt are it at WR3. Hell Slayton at WR2 doesn't excite me either.

same, my only concern now is the fit with brian burns and abdul carter against the run but we'll figure that out when we get there.

i'm with you on needing another WR. another OL with our 2nd or 3rd rounder would be ideal too

Carter is so versatile my guess is on early downs he stands up like a backer like Micah...then on passing downs he moves to the edge.

I do think we need to draft another interior DL that can help Dexter especially in the run game...its a pretty deep draft on the interior DL in 2nd and 3rd round to get a quality player.

The way Sexy Dexy can't be singled on the interior an then on passing downs you have Burns and Carter on the edge...then you can shift KT inside in a NASCAR package like we use to with Tuck should give us the most disruptive DL in the NFL.

[GONYK]

My dream of Nabers and Hunter together is dead.

However, adding Carter to our line with the improvements in the secondary is a very nice consolation prize and we can probably look forward to our defense being legit.

I would like to draft a WR in Round 3 now though. We need another talented receiver to push for time because I don't think Robinson or Hyatt are it at WR3. Hell Slayton at WR2 doesn't excite me either.

same, my only concern now is the fit with brian burns and abdul carter against the run but we'll figure that out when we get there.

i'm with you on needing another WR. another OL with our 2nd or 3rd rounder would be ideal too

Carter is so versatile my guess is on early downs he stands up like a backer like Micah...then on passing downs he moves to the edge.

I do think we need to draft another interior DL that can help Dexter especially in the run game...its a pretty deep draft on the interior DL in 2nd and 3rd round to get a quality player.

The way Sexy Dexy can't be singled on the interior an then on passing downs you have Burns and Carter on the edge...then you can shift KT inside in a NASCAR package like we use to with Tuck should give us the most disruptive DL in the NFL.

Yup. DT is where I'd look at 34. You could get a guy who would be a mid-1st rounder in other drafts.

[MrDollarBills]

same, my only concern now is the fit with brian burns and abdul carter against the run but we'll figure that out when we get there.

i'm with you on needing another WR. another OL with our 2nd or 3rd rounder would be ideal too

Carter is so versatile my guess is on early downs he stands up like a backer like Micah...then on passing downs he moves to the edge.

I do think we need to draft another interior DL that can help Dexter especially in the run game...its a pretty deep draft on the interior DL in 2nd and 3rd round to get a quality player.

The way Sexy Dexy can't be singled on the interior an then on passing downs you have Burns and Carter on the edge...then you can shift KT inside in a NASCAR package like we use to with Tuck should give us the most disruptive DL in the NFL.

Yup. DT is where I'd look at 34. You could get a guy who would be a mid-1st rounder in other drafts.

Rd 1: Carter

Rd 2: BPA DT

Rd 3: BPA OL

Rd 3: WR or RB?

[Synciere]

My dream of Nabers and Hunter together is dead.

However, adding Carter to our line with the improvements in the secondary is a very nice consolation prize and we can probably look forward to our defense being legit.

I would like to draft a WR in Round 3 now though. We need another talented receiver to push for time because I don't think Robinson or Hyatt are it at WR3. Hell Slayton at WR2 doesn't excite me either.

same, my only concern now is the fit with brian burns and abdul carter against the run but we'll figure that out when we get there.

i'm with you on needing another WR. another OL with our 2nd or 3rd rounder would be ideal too

Carter is so versatile my guess is on early downs he stands up like a backer like Micah...then on passing downs he moves to the edge.

I do think we need to draft another interior DL that can help Dexter especially in the run game...its a pretty deep draft on the interior DL in 2nd and 3rd round to get a quality player.

The way Sexy Dexy can't be singled on the interior an then on passing downs you have Burns and Carter on the edge...then you can shift KT inside in a NASCAR package like we use to with Tuck should give us the most disruptive DL in the NFL.

We know one or both of Carter/Hunter will be there for the Giants. No need to overthink it. But the mandate from ownership is still clear: get a future franchise quarterback.

After being invited to the draft green room it's pretty clear Milroe has fans we don't know about. I actually would love to draft him, and I think he goes higher than most of us think and the Giants won't even have the chance to draft him in the second round. So those who don't like his potential may get their wish. What does Schoen do? Because I think he's desperate enough to give up a 2nd, 3rd, and 5th round pick to get ahead of Pittsburgh for a quarterback. We're not getting a DT in that scenario, and his moves in free agency make it seem like he knows he might not be able to get that depth on the oline and dline. It's either build the team out or get the quarterback this draft. Which is why I don't like the Russell Wilson contract. Should've waited until after the draft...

[GONYK]

Carter is so versatile my guess is on early downs he stands up like a backer like Micah...then on passing downs he moves to the edge.

I do think we need to draft another interior DL that can help Dexter especially in the run game...its a pretty deep draft on the interior DL in 2nd and 3rd round to get a quality player.

The way Sexy Dexy can't be singled on the interior an then on passing downs you have Burns and Carter on the edge...then you can shift KT inside in a NASCAR package like we use to with Tuck should give us the most disruptive DL in the NFL.

Yup. DT is where I'd look at 34. You could get a guy who would be a mid-1st rounder in other drafts.

Rd 1: Carter

Rd 2: BPA DT

Rd 3: BPA OL

Rd 3: WR or RB?

[mpharris36]

Just prepare yourself for a QB like Milroe. Just be realistic about the situation. That's all I ask

[TerrenceClarke]

Just prepare yourself for a QB like Milroe. Just be realistic about the situation. That's all I ask

regardless of what I want....

I will say the odds of Giants picking him around the top of the second round is high as hell. They need the pick to quiet the chatter than the Giants dont have a future QB on the roster.

[MrDollarBills]

Just prepare yourself for a QB like Milroe. Just be realistic about the situation. That's all I ask

That seems like a waste of a 2nd rounder though.

If Schoen wants to save his job he'll put the best team on the field. Taking Milroe before players that are ready to see the field makes no sense