Raptors sign Jamison Battle (exhibit 10)

[youngRAPZ]

Agbaji seems the odd man out and should sell, while his 3pt% is still around 38%.

Anyone else notice that Battle is looking trimmed down and moving his feet laterally on defense?!?!?! Coaching really works. If he can get his defense up to average he'll be insanely useful and at least and MLE level rotation player on a championship team.

Why would Ochai be the odd man out? He's a low USG guy that can defend and shoot the 3, basically the perfect complimentary player to guys like Ingram, RJ, IQ and Scottie who need the ball in their hands more. His market is already set too if he wants to sign an extension, he's likely getting the same contract Okoro did who had a nearly identical season last year. You're looking at 3 years 33 million range, which is perfectly acceptable for a rotation player on a decent team.

People have to accept that starting next season, we are trying to get to the top of the east again. You don't just toss.away useful 3+D players they are essential to winning. From now on we have to shift our focus to "which players are going to help this team win".

Exactly lol as much as I love Battle the man should not be in our regular rotation if a top 6 seed is our objective. He’s a perfect 3rd stringer if someone goes down but right now there is no way I move Agbagi or tbh I don’t move any of our wings this summer unless we draft another guard/wing. We have 2 picks that will likely be used on Bigs.

Jak/Maluach/ORob/Chomche**
Barnes/Mogbo/Toppin
BI3/Agbagi/Battle
RJB/Dick/Walter/Lawson or Rhoden**
IQ/Shead/Walter/undrafter pg**
**=2way

Walter, Dick, Agbaji dual it out whoever sinks gets sacrificed mid season. Or there will likely always be an injury or 2 anyways. Battle and Mogbo likely only play in certain situations as RJ will get min at the 3 and BI at the 4.

[XTC]

Agbaji seems the odd man out and should sell, while his 3pt% is still around 38%.

Anyone else notice that Battle is looking trimmed down and moving his feet laterally on defense?!?!?! Coaching really works. If he can get his defense up to average he'll be insanely useful and at least and MLE level rotation player on a championship team.

Why would Ochai be the odd man out? He's a low USG guy that can defend and shoot the 3, basically the perfect complimentary player to guys like Ingram, RJ, IQ and Scottie who need the ball in their hands more. His market is already set too if he wants to sign an extension, he's likely getting the same contract Okoro did who had a nearly identical season last year. You're looking at 3 years 33 million range, which is perfectly acceptable for a rotation player on a decent team.

People have to accept that starting next season, we are trying to get to the top of the east again. You don't just toss.away useful 3+D players they are essential to winning. From now on we have to shift our focus to "which players are going to help this team win".

Exactly

IQ/Shead
RJ/JKW
BI/Agbaji
Barnes
Poeltl

Is how I see our rotation. I don't see much room for Gradey, especially when JKW offers what he does plus he plays defense. I wouldn't mind flipping him for a strecth big tbh.

[youngRAPZ]

Why would Ochai be the odd man out? He's a low USG guy that can defend and shoot the 3, basically the perfect complimentary player to guys like Ingram, RJ, IQ and Scottie who need the ball in their hands more. His market is already set too if he wants to sign an extension, he's likely getting the same contract Okoro did who had a nearly identical season last year. You're looking at 3 years 33 million range, which is perfectly acceptable for a rotation player on a decent team.

People have to accept that starting next season, we are trying to get to the top of the east again. You don't just toss.away useful 3+D players they are essential to winning. From now on we have to shift our focus to "which players are going to help this team win".

Exactly

IQ/Shead
RJ/JKW
BI/Agbaji
Barnes
Poeltl

Is how I see our rotation. I don't see much room for Gradey, especially when JKW offers what he does plus he plays defense. I wouldn't mind flipping him for a strecth big tbh.

Dick will be the 9th man. RJ and BI3 will play mins at the 4 opening up time on the wing for Walter/Dick/Agbagi. The 10th man will likely be a big that plays 10-15. Barnes likely plays some mins as small ball 5 in some matchups.

There will be enough mins. There will be injuries slumps and many other things.


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[S.W.A.N]

Why would Ochai be the odd man out? He's a low USG guy that can defend and shoot the 3, basically the perfect complimentary player to guys like Ingram, RJ, IQ and Scottie who need the ball in their hands more. His market is already set too if he wants to sign an extension, he's likely getting the same contract Okoro did who had a nearly identical season last year. You're looking at 3 years 33 million range, which is perfectly acceptable for a rotation player on a decent team.

People have to accept that starting next season, we are trying to get to the top of the east again. You don't just toss.away useful 3+D players they are essential to winning. From now on we have to shift our focus to "which players are going to help this team win".

Exactly

IQ/Shead
RJ/JKW
BI/Agbaji
Barnes
Poeltl

Is how I see our rotation. I don't see much room for Gradey, especially when JKW offers what he does plus he plays defense. I wouldn't mind flipping him for a strecth big tbh.

We play with enough pace that we can go to a 10 man rotation in regular season. I agree with your top 8 but Dick and the rookie big or Mogbo (if he shows big improvements) will get solid minutes as well.

[WuTang_CMB]

what a pick up
his confidence has sky rocketed towards the end of season. could be a solid 2-way 3 and D guy for a winning club

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[Los_29]

He’s a keeper. Nice pickup from the FO.

[Thaddy]

I wouldn't trade any of these guys unless there's a clear winning trade. Dick, Walter, Battle and even Agbaji can get a lot better with more time with Darko. We should be looking to trade RJ for a big instead and clear up room.

Maybe some kind of deal with Orlando. They love big guards and he's young enough to fit with their core. They'll want to retool around their main guys since the season was disappointing.

Battle has more athleticism than he's shown. I wouldn't discount him there. I would guess he's capable of being a great back up SF and he's got decent size too.

[LoveMyRaps]

I'm very happy with this signing. Well deserved.

Mentioned this earlier today...

Jamison Battle deserves a lot more love here.

He's been our most consistent player through two games.

You know what I found crazy...

Through 2021-2023 (3 seasons) - he was a 77% FT shooter (on 2.2 attempts per game)
Fast forward to his final season - he shot 93% from the FT line (on 2.7 attempts per game)

Now let's take a look at his 3pt%....

Through 2021-2023 (3 seasons) - he shot 34% from three (on 6.9 attempts per game)
Fast forward to his final season - he shot 43% from three (on 6 attempts per game)


This sort of improvement is indicative of an exceptional work ethic.
He's only 23 and I hope we retain him.

This was prior to the season and him even receiving a contract.

I continue to be impressed with him.
Look at those numbers I highlighted above. This dude is a gym rat and has an exceptional work ethic.
I think he's got a shot at being a legit rotational piece next season. A guy that could potentially average 15ppg off the bench within a year or two.
Shooting 40% from behind the arc as a rookie is extremely impressive!

[Appostis]

People have to accept that starting next season, we are trying to get to the top of the east again. You don't just toss.away useful 3+D players they are essential to winning. From now on we have to shift our focus to "which players are going to help this team win".

Exactly

IQ/Shead
RJ/JKW
BI/Agbaji
Barnes
Poeltl

Is how I see our rotation. I don't see much room for Gradey, especially when JKW offers what he does plus he plays defense. I wouldn't mind flipping him for a strecth big tbh.

Dick will be the 9th man. RJ and BI3 will play mins at the 4 opening up time on the wing for Walter/Dick/Agbagi. The 10th man will likely be a big that plays 10-15. Barnes likely plays some mins as small ball 5 in some matchups.

There will be enough mins. There will be injuries slumps and many other things.


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Dick being a end of rotation player is just pure nonsense...

[youngRAPZ]

Exactly

IQ/Shead
RJ/JKW
BI/Agbaji
Barnes
Poeltl

Is how I see our rotation. I don't see much room for Gradey, especially when JKW offers what he does plus he plays defense. I wouldn't mind flipping him for a strecth big tbh.

Dick will be the 9th man. RJ and BI3 will play mins at the 4 opening up time on the wing for Walter/Dick/Agbagi. The 10th man will likely be a big that plays 10-15. Barnes likely plays some mins as small ball 5 in some matchups.

There will be enough mins. There will be injuries slumps and many other things.


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Dick being a end of rotation player is just pure nonsense...

So who do you have him being over in the lineup? Shead is more important as the backup pg and Walter/Agbagi bring just as much on offence but twice as much defence. Fact is if Dick isn’t hitting his shots then he won’t play specially when battle is their waiting to take his mins.

So again which of those 8 is he getting more mins than in a season where winning is more important than development. You could argue the backup C would be more important than dick?

So if you have him at 7 or 8 instead of 9 how the hell is 9 nonsense as if I called him a scrub?


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[Psubs]

I wouldn't trade any of these guys unless there's a clear winning trade. Dick, Walter, Battle and even Agbaji can get a lot better with more time with Darko. We should be looking to trade RJ for a big instead and clear up room.

Maybe some kind of deal with Orlando. They love big guards and he's young enough to fit with their core. They'll want to retool around their main guys since the season was disappointing.

Battle has more athleticism than he's shown. I wouldn't discount him there. I would guess he's capable of being a great back up SF and he's got decent size too.

Agbaji needs to be the salary dump for the best 2nd rounder they can get. Has he built up his value to late 1st pick?

Would love to use this pick on Sergio de Larrea and stash him for 1 year as he can start for Valencia and play double the minutes. Maybe then he doesn't try to force passes in his limited time.

[mademan]

He is what we hoped Dick to be.

[Appostis]

He is what we hoped Dick to be.

Need to start collecting these nonsense Dick slander comments

[djsunyc]

He is what we hoped Dick to be.

Need to start collecting these nonsense Dick slander comments

yeah. dick was not drafted to be only a catch and shoot player from 3. he is a movement guy that does alot more stuff. but he really needs a big summer. he needs to get way stronger and get more reliable as a shooter. game is still too fast for him.

[mademan]

He is what we hoped Dick to be.

Need to start collecting these nonsense Dick slander comments

Nothing slanderous about it. NBA is a great league with a lot of great players and the competition is ridiculous. Dick, by merit, will find it tough to get minutes next year. He probably still will as he's a big investment, but Ochai/Walter/Battle are all gonna be fighting him for minutes and it's not clear he's better than any of them. And that doesnt include the starting duo

He's gonna have to make a leap this summer

[WuTang_CMB]

2 way battle

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[TimeForChange]

can shoot 3's and play defense? he's the bizarro gradey dick

[tecumseh18]

Agbaji needs to be the salary dump for the best 2nd rounder they can get. Has he built up his value to late 1st pick?

WTAF?

Among 128 players who took >= 200 3PTA C&S, he was 49th and Battle was 48th in 3PT%. Among 247 players who took >= 100 3PTA C&S, he was 90th, Battle was 87th in 3PT%. Not bad for a team that shot 25th in the L in them, despite being 11th in volume.

According to Schuhmann, LA was 37.4%. That means (not accounting for SSS), Ingram/Boucher/Dick/Battle/Agbaji were the only ones above LA. JaKobe was LA, and IQ just abit under.

[Appostis]

Agbaji needs to be the salary dump for the best 2nd rounder they can get. Has he built up his value to late 1st pick?

WTAF?

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I don't even know..

Look I think eventually OA, RB, or Dick have to be sacrificed for the sake of another big but.. Saying OA must be dumped for a second round pick?!

[SharoneWright]

The determinative question before you sign a guy like Battle, is if he's truly an NBA player. If he's got value across the league, then he's an asset you grab - I envision using his (modest) value as part of a trade.