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Re: PG: Nets Drubbed. Thibs Detractors in Shambles 

Post#101 » by nedleeds » Mon Apr 14, 2025 3:16 pm

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WaltFrazier wrote:I wouldn't call it boring, but it's crazy how a 51 win season seemed to have so many disappointments. Partly because of higher expectations and partly because the style of play wasn't pleasing


Partly because we went 0-14 vs. the elite teams like Cavs, Cs, OKC, LA teams, and 24-0 against Bullets, 76ers, Raptors, Nets, Heat, Suns, Blazers, Pels ... we almost swept the bobcats. So anyone who has 2 neurons in their brain that can successfully fire will realize it's yet another fake Thibs masterpiece. Up there on his mantle like the fake Covid regular season where he won Coach of the Year.

39 of 51 wins against teams .500 or worse.

sUcCeSsFuL! :lol: :lol: :lol:

People just don't get it. In some ways I envy them because they can watch this team and think we can make a Finals with ... just one more move from Leon 'The Hutt' Rose ... Capped out, no picks but just one more move will get us from ZERO and FOURTEEN to like .500 vs. elite teams.
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Re: PG: Nets Drubbed. Thibs Detractors in Shambles 

Post#102 » by sol537 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 3:54 pm

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Partly because we went 0-14 vs. the elite teams like Cavs, Cs, OKC, LA teams, and 24-0 against Bullets, 76ers, Raptors, Nets, Heat, Suns, Blazers, Pels ... we almost swept the bobcats. So anyone who has 2 neurons in their brain that can successfully fire will realize it's yet another fake Thibs masterpiece. Up there on his mantle like the fake Covid regular season where he won Coach of the Year.

39 of 51 wins against teams .500 or worse.

sUcCeSsFuL! :lol: :lol: :lol:

People just don't get it. In some ways I envy them because they can watch this team and think we can make a Finals with ... just one more move from Leon 'The Hutt' Rose ... Capped out, no picks but just one more move will get us from ZERO and FOURTEEN to like .500 vs. elite teams.


One coaching change and one move (like swapping out KAT for a 2-way players) could put us on the level of BOS/OKC/CLE... why not.
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Re: PG: Nets Drubbed. Thibs Detractors in Shambles 

Post#103 » by 8516knicks » Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:31 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Shamet low key nice


For Shamet career watchers, was this just a one-off or do you think he's back to being a valuable asset in case of injury - a rotation add?
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Post#104 » by ctorres » Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:34 pm

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Alright, I'm a fan of Shamet now, he can stay on the team next season.
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Post#105 » by RHODEY » Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:57 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Shamet low key nice


For Shamet career watchers, was this just a one-off or do you think he's back to being a valuable asset in case of injury - a rotation add?

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Post#106 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:38 pm

G_K_F wrote:Shamet 40 minutes, Kolek 14 minutes, Dadiet 11 minutes in the last game of the season.

Thibs should be fired for this alone.

Why? Kolek and Dadiet won't see the court in the playoffs.
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Re: PG: Nets Drubbed. Thibs Detractors in Shambles 

Post#107 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:39 pm

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kNicksGmen wrote:39 of 51 wins against teams .500 or worse.

sUcCeSsFuL! :lol: :lol: :lol:

People just don't get it. In some ways I envy them because they can watch this team and think we can make a Finals with ... just one more move from Leon 'The Hutt' Rose ... Capped out, no picks but just one more move will get us from ZERO and FOURTEEN to like .500 vs. elite teams.


One coaching change and one move (like swapping out KAT for a 2-way players) could put us on the level of BOS/OKC/CLE... why not.

Anyone in mind?
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Post#108 » by prophet_of_rage » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:44 pm

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G_K_F wrote:Shamet 40 minutes, Kolek 14 minutes, Dadiet 11 minutes in the last game of the season.

Thibs should be fired for this alone.

Why? Kolek and Dadiet won't see the court in the playoffs.
Because Thibs is the scapegoat for everything.

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Re: PG: Nets Drubbed. Thibs Detractors in Shambles 

Post#109 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:51 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
G_K_F wrote:Shamet 40 minutes, Kolek 14 minutes, Dadiet 11 minutes in the last game of the season.

Thibs should be fired for this alone.

Why? Kolek and Dadiet won't see the court in the playoffs.
Because Thibs is the scapegoat for everything.

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Yeah, right! It's freaking so annoying in here right now with all of the "group think" about Thibs going on.
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Re: PG: Nets Drubbed. Thibs Detractors in Shambles 

Post#110 » by sol537 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:22 pm

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sol537 wrote:
nedleeds wrote:sUcCeSsFuL! :lol: :lol: :lol:

People just don't get it. In some ways I envy them because they can watch this team and think we can make a Finals with ... just one more move from Leon 'The Hutt' Rose ... Capped out, no picks but just one more move will get us from ZERO and FOURTEEN to like .500 vs. elite teams.


One coaching change and one move (like swapping out KAT for a 2-way players) could put us on the level of BOS/OKC/CLE... why not.

Anyone in mind?


I'm going to assume we're going to extend Mikal this off-season.

I do think we'll monitor the Giannis situation and I'd say there's a 50-50 chance he asks out and that we're one of the teams on the list. If MIL wants to remain competitive, then KAT is an option there, but if they want to rebuild then they'll knock on the OKC/HOU doors.

Could we see KAT flipped to New Orleans for a package of Zion and Herb Jones (or Tre Murphy)?

What if Minny wants KAT back and offers us an extended Randle, Divo and a draft pick?

The safe bet is that we stand pat, replace Thibs with Hurley/Bryant/Malone/Vogel, and add depth via the Tax MLE and see what one year of familiarity and a new voice can bring... see CLE.
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Re: PG: Nets Drubbed. Thibs Detractors in Shambles 

Post#111 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:47 pm

sol537 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
sol537 wrote:
One coaching change and one move (like swapping out KAT for a 2-way players) could put us on the level of BOS/OKC/CLE... why not.

Anyone in mind?


I'm going to assume we're going to extend Mikal this off-season.

I do think we'll monitor the Giannis situation and I'd say there's a 50-50 chance he asks out and that we're one of the teams on the list. If MIL wants to remain competitive, then KAT is an option there, but if they want to rebuild then they'll knock on the OKC/HOU doors.

Could we see KAT flipped to New Orleans for a package of Zion and Herb Jones (or Tre Murphy)?

What if Minny wants KAT back and offers us an extended Randle, Divo and a draft pick?

The safe bet is that we stand pat, replace Thibs with Hurley/Bryant/Malone/Vogel, and add depth via the Tax MLE and see what one year of familiarity and a new voice can bring... see CLE.

I don't want Zion or Randle. I don't think Minny can take his contract back. Isn't Randle an UFA this offseason? OKC doesn't need him since they have Hartenstein and Houston has Sengun.
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Re: PG: Nets Drubbed. Thibs Detractors in Shambles 

Post#112 » by sol537 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:35 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
sol537 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Anyone in mind?


I'm going to assume we're going to extend Mikal this off-season.

I do think we'll monitor the Giannis situation and I'd say there's a 50-50 chance he asks out and that we're one of the teams on the list. If MIL wants to remain competitive, then KAT is an option there, but if they want to rebuild then they'll knock on the OKC/HOU doors.

Could we see KAT flipped to New Orleans for a package of Zion and Herb Jones (or Tre Murphy)?

What if Minny wants KAT back and offers us an extended Randle, Divo and a draft pick?

The safe bet is that we stand pat, replace Thibs with Hurley/Bryant/Malone/Vogel, and add depth via the Tax MLE and see what one year of familiarity and a new voice can bring... see CLE.

I don't want Zion or Randle. I don't think Minny can take his contract back. Isn't Randle an UFA this offseason? OKC doesn't need him since they have Hartenstein and Houston has Sengun.


I meant OKC/HOU could get Giannis if they go pick/youth heavy in a trade and if MIL wants to go into rebuild mode rather than re-tool mode (via KAT).
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Post#113 » by nykballa2k4 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:00 pm

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kNicksGmen wrote:
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Partly because we went 0-14 vs. the elite teams like Cavs, Cs, OKC, LA teams, and 24-0 against Bullets, 76ers, Raptors, Nets, Heat, Suns, Blazers, Pels ... we almost swept the bobcats. So anyone who has 2 neurons in their brain that can successfully fire will realize it's yet another fake Thibs masterpiece. Up there on his mantle like the fake Covid regular season where he won Coach of the Year.

39 of 51 wins against teams .500 or worse.

sUcCeSsFuL! :lol: :lol: :lol:

People just don't get it. In some ways I envy them because they can watch this team and think we can make a Finals with ... just one more move from Leon 'The Hutt' Rose ... Capped out, no picks but just one more move will get us from ZERO and FOURTEEN to like .500 vs. elite teams.


Mitch is really the most important piece on the team. All of those stats have an asterisk next to them.
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Post#114 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:38 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
kNicksGmen wrote:39 of 51 wins against teams .500 or worse.

sUcCeSsFuL! :lol: :lol: :lol:

People just don't get it. In some ways I envy them because they can watch this team and think we can make a Finals with ... just one more move from Leon 'The Hutt' Rose ... Capped out, no picks but just one more move will get us from ZERO and FOURTEEN to like .500 vs. elite teams.


Mitch is really the most important piece on the team. All of those stats have an asterisk next to them.

Yup. This!

We need to start Mitch at center and move Hart to the bench throughout the playoffs.
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Post#115 » by Ravenxvirall » Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:40 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
nedleeds wrote:sUcCeSsFuL! :lol: :lol: :lol:

People just don't get it. In some ways I envy them because they can watch this team and think we can make a Finals with ... just one more move from Leon 'The Hutt' Rose ... Capped out, no picks but just one more move will get us from ZERO and FOURTEEN to like .500 vs. elite teams.


Mitch is really the most important piece on the team. All of those stats have an asterisk next to them.

Yup. This!

We need to start Mitch at center and move Hart to the bench throughout the playoffs.

Please let this happen
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Re: PG: Nets Drubbed. Thibs Detractors in Shambles 

Post#116 » by Besart19 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 4:37 am

The good thing is even of Hart continues to be Landry Fields and Bridges shoots like MKG, we still have Shamet and McBride to put 5 three point threats on the court at the same time
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Post#117 » by Nazrmohamed » Tue Apr 15, 2025 5:43 am

nedleeds wrote:
kNicksGmen wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
Partly because we went 0-14 vs. the elite teams like Cavs, Cs, OKC, LA teams, and 24-0 against Bullets, 76ers, Raptors, Nets, Heat, Suns, Blazers, Pels ... we almost swept the bobcats. So anyone who has 2 neurons in their brain that can successfully fire will realize it's yet another fake Thibs masterpiece. Up there on his mantle like the fake Covid regular season where he won Coach of the Year.

39 of 51 wins against teams .500 or worse.

sUcCeSsFuL! :lol: :lol: :lol:

People just don't get it. In some ways I envy them because they can watch this team and think we can make a Finals with ... just one more move from Leon 'The Hutt' Rose ... Capped out, no picks but just one more move will get us from ZERO and FOURTEEN to like .500 vs. elite teams.


His next move might be a new coach. It worked for the Cavs who almost made no moves. I mean Hunter wasn't a non move but they had the best record in the NBA before they made that move. It was the coach
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Post#118 » by Nazrmohamed » Tue Apr 15, 2025 5:46 am

nedleeds wrote:
kNicksGmen wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
Partly because we went 0-14 vs. the elite teams like Cavs, Cs, OKC, LA teams, and 24-0 against Bullets, 76ers, Raptors, Nets, Heat, Suns, Blazers, Pels ... we almost swept the bobcats. So anyone who has 2 neurons in their brain that can successfully fire will realize it's yet another fake Thibs masterpiece. Up there on his mantle like the fake Covid regular season where he won Coach of the Year.

39 of 51 wins against teams .500 or worse.

sUcCeSsFuL! :lol: :lol: :lol:

People just don't get it. In some ways I envy them because they can watch this team and think we can make a Finals with ... just one more move from Leon 'The Hutt' Rose ... Capped out, no picks but just one more move will get us from ZERO and FOURTEEN to like .500 vs. elite teams.


His next move might be a new coach. It worked for the Cavs who almost made no moves. I mean Hunter wasn't a non move but they had the best record in the NBA before they made that move. It was the coach
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Re: PG: Nets Drubbed. Thibs Detractors in Shambles 

Post#119 » by HopelessKnick » Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:06 am

nedleeds wrote:
kNicksGmen wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
Partly because we went 0-14 vs. the elite teams like Cavs, Cs, OKC, LA teams, and 24-0 against Bullets, 76ers, Raptors, Nets, Heat, Suns, Blazers, Pels ... we almost swept the bobcats. So anyone who has 2 neurons in their brain that can successfully fire will realize it's yet another fake Thibs masterpiece. Up there on his mantle like the fake Covid regular season where he won Coach of the Year.

39 of 51 wins against teams .500 or worse.

sUcCeSsFuL! :lol: :lol: :lol:

People just don't get it. In some ways I envy them because they can watch this team and think we can make a Finals with ... just one more move from Leon 'The Hutt' Rose ... Capped out, no picks but just one more move will get us from ZERO and FOURTEEN to like .500 vs. elite teams.


The best analogy I can come up with is this: Imagine you take a huge huge loan, a borderline crazy loan which you have to pay off many many years into the future to build that house you imagine...after a couple month you start to see the construction is not looking anything what you imagined it to be...and you still have that huge financial obligation for a result much less pleasing than you wanted.

To me I would have been much more chill about this whole thing and the current situation if we had our 2029 and 2031 FRPs.
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Post#120 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:24 pm

Ravenxvirall wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
Mitch is really the most important piece on the team. All of those stats have an asterisk next to them.

Yup. This!

We need to start Mitch at center and move Hart to the bench throughout the playoffs.

Please let this happen


I can't imagine Thibs of all coaches making a drastic change like that starting in the playoffs
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