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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1721 » by AFM » Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:40 pm

doogie_hauser wrote:Celtics fan here. Really rooting for you guys to win the lotto (or at least jag a top 3 pick,)

Bullets/Wiz fans have suffered enough, and it's actually refreshing to see you now have a front office that actually knows what it's doing.

The whole NBA community does feel sorry for Bobcats/Hornets fans, but tend to get forgot how rough DC fans have had it since your one and only Championship.


I see you on the general board supporting us. Please say a prayer for us tonight, we need MEM to make the playoffs (we get their late FRP if they do).
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1722 » by payitforward » Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:53 pm

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Post#1723 » by The Consiglieri » Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:38 pm

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The Consiglieri wrote:It's been nuts, I'm pretty sure they were the 2 seed when February started, and they finished 8th, for now, kinda nuts.


The bunching from 3-8 in the West is so tight. They finished only 2 games behind LAL in 3rd. Yes, they stunk a bunch after the trade, but they are still a good team at 48-34.


Yeah, but I think 35-17 pre trade, and 13-17 post trade is a pretty fundamental divide in quality and caliber of performance. They flat out have sucked for two months running, not much better than our 9-23 run in the same period.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1724 » by The Consiglieri » Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:40 pm

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AFM wrote:Morant better go f'n crazy and drop 50. If we lose this pick against all odds that would really suck ass.

Question for the board. Would you rather get the 2nd pick and Memphis gets the last play-in spot (We get 18th pick), or we get the 1st overall pick and we Memphis loses play-in and keeps the pick?
Basically, how much do you value Cooper over Harper?
... Im taking the latter.

Give me Flagg


1000% Flagg. How much would a team trade from 2 to secure Flagg, and how much would the 1 seed demand? I tend to imagine it would be far more than Memphis' slotting in the teens.

Probably the better question would involve a game show styled set up in which you take either the 2, or accept say a doubling of your chances to get Flagg, or something like that (like 28% or whatever), in that case, yeah, I'll take 2.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1725 » by AFM » Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:01 pm

Would you trade #1 for #2 and Queen?
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1726 » by penbeast0 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 4:43 pm

I don't think so. I think Flagg has a significantly greater chance of being the guy than anyone else and even Harper and Queen don't give you that chance. The greater depth/rotation does not compensate.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1727 » by Rafael122 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 5:04 pm

Look, I'm a fan of Queen, but I'm never trading the first or second overall pick in any draft for that kid. Unless something significant happens with his development, he will be a turnstile on defense at the next level.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1728 » by AFM » Tue Apr 15, 2025 5:19 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Look, I'm a fan of Queen, but I'm never trading the first or second overall pick in any draft for that kid. Unless something significant happens with his development, he will be a turnstile on defense at the next level.


I said first for second not first or second. Ie, how much do you value Cooper over Harper?
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1729 » by Rafael122 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:06 pm

AFM wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:Look, I'm a fan of Queen, but I'm never trading the first or second overall pick in any draft for that kid. Unless something significant happens with his development, he will be a turnstile on defense at the next level.


I said first for second not first or second. Ie, how much do you value Cooper over Harper?


If I had to put a points system to it, Flagg is probably 99 out of 100. Harper would probably be 95? Harper's not a bad consolation prize.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1730 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:16 am

penbeast0 wrote:I don't think so. I think Flagg has a significantly greater chance of being the guy than anyone else and even Harper and Queen don't give you that chance. The greater depth/rotation does not compensate.




Just look at Jayden Daniels and the Commanders.

When a player comes in with that much talent and that high level work ethic, everyone falls in line. That impact reverberates throughout the entire organization.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1731 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:52 am

Watching the Grizzlies... down 76-79 about 5 left in 3rd Q.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1732 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:55 am

80-82

Ja just fell and twisted his ankle... :roll:
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1733 » by Jay81 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 4:53 am

Memphis should win Friday. They are good but the question is….do they want too
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Post#1734 » by TGW » Wed Apr 16, 2025 4:58 am

Jay81 wrote:Memphis should win Friday. They are good but the question is….do they want too


They do. They are highly motivated. I don't see a team that's lacking effort or the will to win. They just don't have talent at the wings outside of Desmond Bane.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1735 » by gambitx777 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:38 am

TGW wrote:
Jay81 wrote:Memphis should win Friday. They are good but the question is….do they want too


They do. They are highly motivated. I don't see a team that's lacking effort or the will to win. They just don't have talent at the wings outside of Desmond Bane.
I mean maybe they tank it but like **** the Mavs and the kings are jokes in the west right now the grizz are just kind of hurting

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1736 » by dobrojim » Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:17 pm

MEM was horrible from around 5 minutes into the game until halftime. Then great in the 3rdQ but
the dubs had vintage Curry and playoff Butler which
gave them enough resources to win at home.

MEM will be home for the next one. They'll need
to play better. Hopefully Ja will be healthier. Bane
played well but they'll more from JJJ. Oh and the
Dubs relentlessly attacked Edey which was an effective
strategy.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1737 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Apr 16, 2025 4:53 pm

Rafael122 wrote:
AFM wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:Look, I'm a fan of Queen, but I'm never trading the first or second overall pick in any draft for that kid. Unless something significant happens with his development, he will be a turnstile on defense at the next level.


I said first for second not first or second. Ie, how much do you value Cooper over Harper?


If I had to put a points system to it, Flagg is probably 99 out of 100. Harper would probably be 95? Harper's not a bad consolation prize.


Be curious what Dat would say.

I'd probably give Flagg a 95
Harper a 91
Edgecome an 86
Bailey an 84

At that point there's a pile of guys in the high 70s to me (Tre, Maluach, Queen etc).

I really do think it's a tier 1 (1.01), tier 2 (1.02), tier 3 (1.03 and 1.04), tier 4 (1.05-1.13 or something). I do think the one thing that makes 1.05 so much better than 1.06 is two fold:

#1: If anyone gets obssessed with a guy like some are for Tre, Queen, Sorber, Maluach, etc, and reaches for them inside the top 3 or 4, it will push one of Bailey or Edgecombe down to 1.05.

#2: You get to pick your favorite of the giant samey tier of 1.05-1.13 or whatever, and like a lot of people here, I can kind of talk myself into the ceilings of a couple of guys, and if there's one that you're fixated on (and there are a few posters who are clearly fixated on Queen, Tre Johnson, and Maluach, and at least one on Sorber), there's about a 95% chance you can get that guy 1.05, unless he's the guy someone ends up reaching for inside the 1.03-1.04 zone (seems to happen every other draft that someone clearly outside the aggregated 1.01-1.05 or so range early tier part of the draft drops out, and a a surprise pops in, within either 1.01-1.03, or 1.04-1.06).


That's why losing out to the Jazz was so brutal to me. It opened up the risk of falling to 1.06, and not getting the benefit of the #1 scenario, and potentially losing out on the first choice of the tier 4 guys. Of course like everyone else, I'm praying we land a top 2 pick, or failing that, top 4, like everyone else, though, that hasn't been my experience as a Wiz fan in loaded classes though.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1738 » by Jay81 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:35 pm

so we are in a bind

if we get Flagg...we likely lose our first round pick to the Knicks

If we dont get flagg...lets say we get Tre Johnson or Ace and probably will be bad enough to be top 3/4 next year...

so would you rather have Flagg

or Tre Johnson and a top 5 pick next year?

is that a dumb way to look at it?
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1739 » by AFM » Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:07 am



nightmare is right...derik queen pockets fatter than dairy queen turn your bedtime to a scary scene #DDQ
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1740 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:20 am

Here's a couple new videos from on potential prospects if we fall to 5 or 6.











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