Rafael122 wrote:AFM wrote:Rafael122 wrote:Look, I'm a fan of Queen, but I'm never trading the first or second overall pick in any draft for that kid. Unless something significant happens with his development, he will be a turnstile on defense at the next level.
I said first for second not first or second. Ie, how much do you value Cooper over Harper?
If I had to put a points system to it, Flagg is probably 99 out of 100. Harper would probably be 95? Harper's not a bad consolation prize.
Be curious what Dat would say.
I'd probably give Flagg a 95
Harper a 91
Edgecome an 86
Bailey an 84
At that point there's a pile of guys in the high 70s to me (Tre, Maluach, Queen etc).
I really do think it's a tier 1 (1.01), tier 2 (1.02), tier 3 (1.03 and 1.04), tier 4 (1.05-1.13 or something). I do think the one thing that makes 1.05 so much better than 1.06 is two fold:
#1: If anyone gets obssessed with a guy like some are for Tre, Queen, Sorber, Maluach, etc, and reaches for them inside the top 3 or 4, it will push one of Bailey or Edgecombe down to 1.05.
#2: You get to pick your favorite of the giant samey tier of 1.05-1.13 or whatever, and like a lot of people here, I can kind of talk myself into the ceilings of a couple of guys, and if there's one that you're fixated on (and there are a few posters who are clearly fixated on Queen, Tre Johnson, and Maluach, and at least one on Sorber), there's about a 95% chance you can get that guy 1.05, unless he's the guy someone ends up reaching for inside the 1.03-1.04 zone (seems to happen every other draft that someone clearly outside the aggregated 1.01-1.05 or so range early tier part of the draft drops out, and a a surprise pops in, within either 1.01-1.03, or 1.04-1.06).
That's why losing out to the Jazz was so brutal to me. It opened up the risk of falling to 1.06, and not getting the benefit of the #1 scenario, and potentially losing out on the first choice of the tier 4 guys. Of course like everyone else, I'm praying we land a top 2 pick, or failing that, top 4, like everyone else, though, that hasn't been my experience as a Wiz fan in loaded classes though.