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First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons

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Predictions?

Knicks in 4
12
10%
Knicks in 5
37
31%
Knicks in 6
35
29%
Knicks in 7
6
5%
Pistons in 7
3
3%
Pistons in 6
15
13%
Pistons in 5
2
2%
Pistons in 4
10
8%
 
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Re: First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons 

Post#381 » by Ravenxvirall » Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:13 pm

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Post#382 » by 8516knicks » Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:29 pm

How did Buzz get to vote 10 times? :dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow: -- PISTONS IN 4 (10 Votes)
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Post#383 » by robillionaire » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:06 pm

8516knicks wrote:How did Buzz get to vote 10 times? :dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow: -- PISTONS IN 4 (10 Votes)


What’s more concerning is that there are 118 votes and only like 10 people post here
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Post#384 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:16 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:True. We saw that with Hukporti as well. Dadiet not so much. McCullers looks like he could be “situational”. With Payne and Wright, I don’t see Kolek getting any burn but his defense did improve from the beginning of the season to the end.

Congrats on achieving your doctorate. Lots of work. Must feel good.


Thanks, Wingo. Actually still working. Maybe weeks from done though. I’ll give the official word when it’s turned in.

Agreed. Hukporti was awful on rotations. Looks like they took him in the lab for a bit and he was much better when he re-emerged. He looked damn near ready to back up Mitch before he got hurt. Would have been a nice luxury for the playoffs.
Wouldn't that mean Thibs is developing people?

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by george! :lol:

it's unfortunate that some only see development as game minutes. that's not to say players unilaterally can't learn through the bumps and bruises. that's the next tier. i also understand not using game minutes for that -- especially when you got players who are closer to ready who need those game minutes to get rhythm with each other.

some new players would be done a disservice by getting eviscerated to the point where they're not learning simply because they're not ready. and when you're on a good team you actually have the benefit/luxury of practicing and developing your craft against good players who actually care about you. (i.e.: staying in front of JB every day.) i think if mccullar were healthy from onset he would have seen minutes before huck sporty and my dear sweet creator. defensively, he understands it.

these conversations are way more nuanced than the reactionary (and bad faith) takes our online environments lend themselves to though.

-signed, a thibslobber who is not afraid to discuss pros and cons. (and a former frankfrooter who was not afraid to call him buns/soft.)
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Re: First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons 

Post#385 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:21 pm

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But minutes police said the whole team would be injured at this point in the season????? Now the fake news is saying the complete opposite

I tried saying last year's injuries were an anomaly but they did not want to listen..


one more layer to this convo. not even on some gotcha troll ****.

OKC and Memphis injury reports been crazy all season. it's once again a much more nuanced conversation than we collectively want to accept.
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Post#386 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:22 pm

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playoff josh has been a different animal. fingers crossed that he's in a good rhythm.
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Post#387 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:23 pm

TKKnicks1 wrote:Watching the Heat dismantle the Bulls right now is precisely the reason why I have no faith in this team. Coaches like Spo always have their teams ready and up for big games. They also have a very good understanding of how to counter game plans and aren't afraid of getting creative. All great attributes of a coach to have in a playoff series. Unfortunately Thibs doesn't possess a single one of these characteristics.

I mean last year we beat the Sixers that had Embiid and Maxey while we had Mitch on one foot, no Randle. And then we took the pacers to 7 with just Brunson. I’d say Thibs had us pretty prepared. We were just unfortunate with injuries. This time around everyone is healthy thankfully.

Also one of his former players said that Thibs is the most prepared coach they’ve ever played for. I forgot who it was.
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Re: First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons 

Post#388 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:34 pm

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But minutes police said the whole team would be injured at this point in the season????? Now the fake news is saying the complete opposite

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Re: First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons 

Post#389 » by Ravenxvirall » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:38 pm

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playoff josh has been a different animal. fingers crossed that he's in a good rhythm.

Good point, he knocked down some really big shots against Philly last year.
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Post#390 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:40 pm

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Re: First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons 

Post#391 » by TKKnicks1 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:41 pm

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TKKnicks1 wrote:Watching the Heat dismantle the Bulls right now is precisely the reason why I have no faith in this team. Coaches like Spo always have their teams ready and up for big games. They also have a very good understanding of how to counter game plans and aren't afraid of getting creative. All great attributes of a coach to have in a playoff series. Unfortunately Thibs doesn't possess a single one of these characteristics.

I mean last year we beat the Sixers that had Embiid and Maxey while we had Mitch on one foot, no Randle. And then we took the pacers to 7 with just Brunson. I’d say Thibs had us pretty prepared. We were just unfortunate with injuries. This time around everyone is healthy thankfully.

Also one of his former players said that Thibs is the most prepared coach they’ve ever played for. I forgot who it was.


Not apples to apples comparing last year's team or comparing what Thibs was a decade ago. This year the team nor the coaching staff has showed us any reason to be optimistic against the top tier teams.
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Re: First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons 

Post#392 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:42 pm

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playoff josh has been a different animal. fingers crossed that he's in a good rhythm.

Good point, he knocked down some really big shots against Philly last year.


and IIRC he was lights out his first partial season and playoffs with us. josh has big moments DNA dating back to high school. his nova title run performance was lowkey all-time.
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Re: First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons 

Post#393 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:46 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
TKKnicks1 wrote:Watching the Heat dismantle the Bulls right now is precisely the reason why I have no faith in this team. Coaches like Spo always have their teams ready and up for big games. They also have a very good understanding of how to counter game plans and aren't afraid of getting creative. All great attributes of a coach to have in a playoff series. Unfortunately Thibs doesn't possess a single one of these characteristics.

I mean last year we beat the Sixers that had Embiid and Maxey while we had Mitch on one foot, no Randle. And then we took the pacers to 7 with just Brunson. I’d say Thibs had us pretty prepared. We were just unfortunate with injuries. This time around everyone is healthy thankfully.

Also one of his former players said that Thibs is the most prepared coach they’ve ever played for. I forgot who it was.


Not apples to apples comparing last year's team or comparing what Thibs was a decade ago. This year the team nor the coaching staff has showed us any reason to be optimistic against the top tier teams.


funny thing about this point is the roster construction is our key difference from this season and last. same coach. we beat everyone's ass last year and had the league on notice. injuries were the only thing that stopped the train.

not oversimplifying the convo. just saying. it hits different when your center rotation is Hartenstein and mitch. those 48 minutes of excellent thibodeauan big man play were crucial. nice to see OG stepping into some of the randle bully ball role for now.

not picking on KAT. but he just doesn't have it on that end. and i'm not sure what we do about that as constructed.
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Re: First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons 

Post#394 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:46 pm

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TKKnicks1 wrote:Watching the Heat dismantle the Bulls right now is precisely the reason why I have no faith in this team. Coaches like Spo always have their teams ready and up for big games. They also have a very good understanding of how to counter game plans and aren't afraid of getting creative. All great attributes of a coach to have in a playoff series. Unfortunately Thibs doesn't possess a single one of these characteristics.

I mean last year we beat the Sixers that had Embiid and Maxey while we had Mitch on one foot, no Randle. And then we took the pacers to 7 with just Brunson. I’d say Thibs had us pretty prepared. We were just unfortunate with injuries. This time around everyone is healthy thankfully.

Also one of his former players said that Thibs is the most prepared coach they’ve ever played for. I forgot who it was.


Not apples to apples comparing last year's team or comparing what Thibs was a decade ago. This year the team nor the coaching staff has showed us any reason to be optimistic against the top tier teams.

I agree I’m not optimistic against the top tier teams either. My take is that it’s a roster issue tho. But I also wouldn’t mind getting an upgrade in a coach. I don’t know who that upgrade is unfortunately .
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Re: First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons 

Post#395 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:50 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I mean last year we beat the Sixers that had Embiid and Maxey while we had Mitch on one foot, no Randle. And then we took the pacers to 7 with just Brunson. I’d say Thibs had us pretty prepared. We were just unfortunate with injuries. This time around everyone is healthy thankfully.

Also one of his former players said that Thibs is the most prepared coach they’ve ever played for. I forgot who it was.


Not apples to apples comparing last year's team or comparing what Thibs was a decade ago. This year the team nor the coaching staff has showed us any reason to be optimistic against the top tier teams.


funny thing about this point is the roster construction is our key difference from this season and last. same coach. we beat everyone's ass last year and had the league on notice. injuries were the only thing that stopped the train.

not oversimplifying the convo. just saying. it hits different when your center rotation is Hartenstein and mitch. those 48 minutes of excellent thibodeauan big man play were crucial. nice to see OG stepping into some of the randle bully bal role for now.

not picking on KAT. but he just doesn't have it on that end. and i'm not sure what we do about that as constructed.

The only thing that saved KAT was putting a multi time DPOY next to him, which we don’t have unfortunately. Our best hope is hoping Mitch can get back to his previous form to help out KAT, which I think has a slim chance of happening. It’s a tough situation.
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Re: First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons 

Post#396 » by Ravenxvirall » Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:05 pm

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playoff josh has been a different animal. fingers crossed that he's in a good rhythm.

Good point, he knocked down some really big shots against Philly last year.


and IIRC he was lights out his first partial season and playoffs with us. josh has big moments DNA dating back to high school. his nova title run performance was lowkey all-time.

Alright you are getting me hyped now lol. I still think he should be our spark plug off the bench but damn Saturday can’t get here quick enough!
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Post#397 » by ctorres » Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:12 pm

If everyone on the team is healthy to start the playoffs, we have to be among the favorites to win it all
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Re: First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons 

Post#398 » by Gravy » Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:37 pm

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But minutes police said the whole team would be injured at this point in the season????? Now the fake news is saying the complete opposite

I tried saying last year's injuries were an anomaly but they did not want to listen..


one more layer to this convo. not even on some gotcha troll ****.

OKC and Memphis injury reports been crazy all season. it's once again a much more nuanced conversation than we collectively want to accept.

We all know other teams have injuries but still choose to be insufferable about Thibs :lol:
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Re: First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons 

Post#399 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:05 pm

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Re: First Round Matchup Set: Knicks vs Pistons 

Post#400 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:23 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I mean last year we beat the Sixers that had Embiid and Maxey while we had Mitch on one foot, no Randle. And then we took the pacers to 7 with just Brunson. I’d say Thibs had us pretty prepared. We were just unfortunate with injuries. This time around everyone is healthy thankfully.

Also one of his former players said that Thibs is the most prepared coach they’ve ever played for. I forgot who it was.


Not apples to apples comparing last year's team or comparing what Thibs was a decade ago. This year the team nor the coaching staff has showed us any reason to be optimistic against the top tier teams.


funny thing about this point is the roster construction is our key difference from this season and last. same coach. we beat everyone's ass last year and had the league on notice. injuries were the only thing that stopped the train.

not oversimplifying the convo. just saying. it hits different when your center rotation is Hartenstein and mitch. those 48 minutes of excellent thibodeauan big man play were crucial. nice to see OG stepping into some of the randle bully bal role for now.

not picking on KAT. but he just doesn't have it on that end. and i'm not sure what we do about that as constructed.


Playing him next to Mitch seems like the answer but that would require Josh going to the bench.
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