2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East First Round: #3 New York Knicks vs #6 Detroit Pistons (Series tied 1-1)

[cgf]

Am I wrong for thinking Cade is better than Ja?

Not at all. But my opinion of Ja is tainted by how badly Bridges dominates him, and what a dumbass Ja is

[JujitsuFlip]

I mean, they just won 64 games with the #1 offense in the NBA lol with the 4th highest bench minutes.

And we just improved by 30 wins while losing our 2nd best player to injury for the year.

Not to mention their top3 players last year missed close to 30games each on the season. Or put another way, Mitchell, Garland, Mobley played 16 18 21 games fewer last season than this season. Makes a difference!

Such a played out narrative lol jb didn't only coach the Cavs in 2023-24, did he?

Cavs bench mpg in 2024-25: 4th
Cavs bench mpg in 2023-24: 20th
Cavs bench mpg in 2022-23: worse than 25th, behind statmuse paywall.
Cavs bench mpg in 2021-22: worse than 25th, behind statmuse paywall.
Cavs bench mpg in 2020-21: worse than 25th, behind statmuse paywall.

Cavs Ortg in 2024-25: 1st
Cavs Ortg in 2023-24: 16th (bottom 3 in the playoffs).
Cavs Ortg in 2022-23: 8th (dead last in the playoffs).
Cavs Ortg in 2021-22: 20th
Cavs Ortg in 2020-21: 28th

[gavran]

It's pretty clear Detroits the better team. They're going to win this seasons in 6 games. Cade isn't going to be this bad going forward. He should be the best player on the floor. Brunson's game isn't made for the playoffs a big defender like Ausar is going to give him issues.

Every year we hear this from our first round opponents

Guess what? Pistons had a gift with Brunson's first half and they blew it. Curbstomp mode activated

The gift is this will be Cades worst game.

Is it because OG will just stop?

[Capn'O]

It's pretty clear Detroits the better team. They're going to win this seasons in 6 games. Cade isn't going to be this bad going forward. He should be the best player on the floor. Brunson's game isn't made for the playoffs a big defender like Ausar is going to give him issues.

Every year we hear this from our first round opponents

Guess what? Pistons had a gift with Brunson's first half and they blew it. Curbstomp mode activated

The gift is this will be Cades worst game.

Right right, it's just a flesh wound.

[Canadafan]

its just one game kids. Lets just take a deep breath. Too much overconfidence after one game. Be humble. We're young and getting our first taste of the playoffs.
Put up a good fight without our top guy playing well(OG clamping him basically) and then we had an epic collapse in the 4th with CamPayne lighting it up.
Just one game. Onto the next. And if we don't win gm2, it's onto the next. Just means Knicks did what they were supposed to do.
Lots of pressure I'd say on them Knickerbockers for game 2
If Stewart is hobbling again though we in deep trouble. The whole game will look like the 4th quarter. Non piston fans don't understand how important that guy is to us. They'll just look at the box score and think he doesn't do much.

[Capn'O]

LOL @ thibs being bill fitch. I think if the Knicks don't push the Celtics to at least 6 games, the Knicks should let him go.

Fun game, now lets see how the pistons adjust

Zero adjustments, that's the issue with bickerstaff. He's gonna do the exact same thing and pray the players figure it out.

Ah yes. We are familiar with "if Plan A fails try Plan A."

[OrlandoDream]

Not to overgeneralize but despite being their first playoff series for the young guys, it showed some of the deficiencies pistons need to elevate next year. First one is Duren. They should sell high and him and go after another stretch big who can rebound better. Sabonis would be nasty on that team. Detroit would benefit from adding more size. Kinda of a small team.

Games like these is when they miss Ivey. Sure the nerves got to them during crunchtime as expected for young team but need someone else when Cade or vets arent hitting shots.

[Capn'O]

Love to see these Knicks fail lol, their fans deserve it

The feeling is mutual

That Oscar the Grouch mfer talking **** from a garbage dump.

[Capn'O]

Not to overgeneralize but despite being their first playoff series for the young guys, it showed some of the deficiencies pistons need to elevate next year. First one is Duren. They should sell high and him and go after another stretch big who can rebound better. Sabonis would be nasty on that team. Detroit would benefit from adding more size. Kinda of a small team.

Games like these is when they miss Ivey. Sure the nerves got to them during crunchtime as expected for young team but need someone else when Cade or vets arent hitting shots.

The Pistons would benefit more from a Mitchell Robinson type than Sabonis. Ideally a player with a little more offensive versatility than Mitch but they need to double down on their defense.

Knicks were able to attack the post at will down the stretch and that's gonna be an issue all series for the Pistons. If the Pistons are able to apply the pressure they apply and then have somebody waiting down low they're gonna be awful hard to score on.

[Wolfgang630]

Youthful experience will do Detroit it which is fine. It happens to all new young teams in the playoffs facing an experienced team. They’ve done great building Detroit back.

[cgf]

Seriously how the **** are you thibs and you dont utilize Towns as much as you can on offense? It's clear he's the teams best most complete offensive player.

He's one of the most complete offensive bigs in the game.

Towns may be our most versatile offensive weapon, even when Brunson is healthy. But despite his impressive passing he doesn’t know how to control an offense the way Jalen can, which is why this team needs Brunson to take over in crunch time.

[JujitsuFlip]

LOL @ thibs being bill fitch. I think if the Knicks don't push the Celtics to at least 6 games, the Knicks should let him go.

Fun game, now lets see how the pistons adjust

Zero adjustments, that's the issue with bickerstaff. He's gonna do the exact same thing and pray the players figure it out.

Ah yes. We are familiar with "if Plan A fails try Plan A."

It's the sign of a good coach.

[cgf]

I hate that New Yorkers are going to go home happy tonight.

New York fans are cool. I just hate Stephen A.

SAS is not even a Knicks fan, he just plays one on tv.

[cgf]

Great come from behind win for the Knicks. Detroit almost stole one on the road. Looking forward to game two…

Yeah; really looking forward to see how each team responds. Do the Knicks get complacent thinking they can comeback from any deficit against these young pistons? Or do they continue to tighten the screws like they did in the 4th, trying to go for the throat so Brunson can get as much rest as possible for round two? Was this the Piston’s best punch, despite Cade’s struggles, or was this just the opening stumbles of a young team learning in front of our eyes?

[Canadafan]

The Pistons would benefit more from a Mitchell Robinson type than Sabonis. Ideally a player with a little more offensive versatility than Mitch but they need to double down on their defense.

Knicks were able to attack the post at will down the stretch and that's gonna be an issue all series for the Pistons. If the Pistons are able to apply the pressure they apply and then have somebody waiting down low they're gonna be awful hard to score on.

That would be us missing our #1defender and rebounder Mr Beef Stew. You guys only caught a glimpse of what he's capable of. He's hobbled and likely won't play next game because of that

[Capn'O]

Seriously how the **** are you thibs and you dont utilize Towns as much as you can on offense? It's clear he's the teams best most complete offensive player.

He's one of the most complete offensive bigs in the game.

Towns may be our most versatile offensive weapon, even when Brunson is healthy. But despite his impressive passing he doesn’t know how to control an offense the way Jalen can, which is why this team needs Brunson to take over in crunch time.

Also, unfortunately Brunson's passing skillset isn't ideal for feeding the KAT. Hart and Payne are instrumental in more plays that maximize what KAT can do than Jalen.

It was one of my concerns about moving Randle. Towns is a better overall offensive player but you can't just dump him the ball on the wing and have him act as a secondary hub the way you can with Randle. You've got to set him up in his spots where he can shoot, post, or straight line drive. From those positions, he can act as a stationary passing hub as well. Granted, he has a lot of spots.

[LFGK]

The Pistons would benefit more from a Mitchell Robinson type than Sabonis. Ideally a player with a little more offensive versatility than Mitch but they need to double down on their defense.

Knicks were able to attack the post at will down the stretch and that's gonna be an issue all series for the Pistons. If the Pistons are able to apply the pressure they apply and then have somebody waiting down low they're gonna be awful hard to score on.

That would be us missing our #1defender and rebounder Mr Beef Stew. You guys only caught a glimpse of what he's capable of. He's hobbled and likely won't play next game because of that

The guy stinks....

[LFGK]

It's pretty clear Detroits the better team. They're going to win this seasons in 6 games. Cade isn't going to be this bad going forward. He should be the best player on the floor. Brunson's game isn't made for the playoffs a big defender like Ausar is going to give him issues.

Every year we hear this from our first round opponents

Guess what? Pistons had a gift with Brunson's first half and they blew it. Curbstomp mode activated

The gift is this will be Cades worst game.

Is OG out for the series? OG fighting through every single screen they throw because Cade has no chance going 1 on 1 against him. The clamps will be in full effect all 4 games of this series

[TheRaptor!]

Love to see these Knicks fail lol, their fans deserve it

The feeling is mutual

2019 champs, we already won, i'll be smiling for next 30 years

[LFGK]

Love to see these Knicks fail lol, their fans deserve it

The feeling is mutual

2019 champs, we already won, i'll be smiling for next 30 years

Your team stinks....