Cooper Flagg -- Season 1 thread

[Mr B]

Nico won't make another deal with Lakers, it would be laughable to give someone for a player he could have gotten in Luka's trade for free. Secondly, D wins championship, not exactly AR's forte. Thirdly, AR is white.

I'm very sceptical about KD wanting to come in Mavs' mess.

You’re probably right. I just know that Luka wants a legit lob threat and he’s very fond of Gafford.

As for KD, he’s friends with several people in the Mavs organization (team and front office). Of course that doesn’t mean he’ll want to play in this mess, it just makes some level of sense that he would. Of course that also doesn’t mean that the Mavs would have the best offer.

KD is well aware that next year is lost because of Kyrie's injury. Kyrie might come back in 2026 but he will be normal Kyrie only in 26/27 season.

Mavs should be tanking next season for the last good pick for a long time.

I can guarantee you they won’t be tanking next season. They (the players and coaches) didn’t even tank this season when they had every excuse to. With the ownership trying to get a new arena there is no way they want to tank either.

Nico and the ownership clearly have no f-ing clue what they’re doing. To regain favor with the fanbase and for the betterment for the future of the organization I agree they should tank. Trade AD, Kyrie, and anyone else you can for picks (especially for their own picks they already gave away). Nico and the ownership clearly do not give a crap about the fans though and have zero clue how to build a team.

Nico is going to continue to collect “his guys” which are the older generation of injury prone “stars” and they will continue to tells the fans they Nico is doing a great job, even though clearly he’s not.

Then once they fail to secure the votes for the new arena, they will sell the team and Nico will finally be fired. Then and only then will the fans get our team back.

[41Dirk41]

Nico can't survive 3 months next season... Book it.

[arkuo]

Could they realistically get someone in this draft who's more ready than Ajinca?

[Mr B]

Nico can't survive 3 months next season... Book it.

From your mouth to God’s ears. Fingers crossed.

[Mr B]

Could they realistically get someone in this draft who's more ready than Ajinca?

Honestly I’m not expecting the NBA to help the Mavs out at all when it comes to the draft. In the Mavs entire history they have never ended up with a better pick than what their odds suggest. They have always gotten a worst pick than what their odds say. So I fully expect the Mavs to end up with 12, 13, or pick 14.

It’s highly doubtful they end up with an impactful player in the 12-14 range. And even if they did I doubt Kidd will play him.

[aguiar95]

Posted on the Mock draft section, but would like to see where y'all stand on this:

This is a Mavs-centric big board. They are not drafting a center, so I removed them from the board.

Tier I - Superstar (potential 1 or 2 on a championship team)

1- Flagg (Comp - Pippen)

Tier II - Star (potential 2 or 3 on the championship team)

2- Harper (Comp - Cunningham lite)

Tier III - Bonafied Starter (potential 3 or 4 on the championship team)

3- Bailey (Comp - Ingram)
4- Edgecombe (Comp - Oladipo)
5- Fears (Comp - Maxey)
6- Jakucionis (Comp - taller Dragic)
7- Knueppel (Comp - Hayward)
8- Johnson (Comp - taller Cam Thomas)

Tier IV - Perenial Starter/Rotation Player (potential 4-7 player on the championship team)

9- Bryant (Comp - Anunoby/Aaron Gordon)
10- Demin (Comp - Giddey-ish)
11- Clifford (Comp - better shooter Josh Hart)
12- Essengue (Comp - Coulibaly)
13- Richardson (Comp - shorter Mathurin)
14- Clayton Jr. (Cop - shorter Jamaal Murray)
15- Philon (Comp - more intense Delon Wright)

Strategy:

If #1:
Draft Flagg (duh)

If #2:
Draft Harper (duh)

If #3:
Try and move down a couple spots where Jakucionis or Fears are still available and land another pick AND dump money (i.e: Hardy/Powell + #4 for #8 + #14). If nothing appears, draft Bayley as he fits better with our young core.

If #4:
Same as #3, try to trade down for more asstes. If Bayley is not there, go for Edgecombe.

If #11 or #12:
Scenario 1: One of the tier III players still available (almost impossible), draft him. We shouldn't trade future picks to move up for any of the tier III players.

Scenario 2: None of tier III available, try and move down, get another pick OR dump money (i.e: Hardy/Powell + #11 for #13-15 or #11 for #19, #26 and #27) and try to draft guys from tier IV. If no opportunity arrives draft Carter Bryant or Egor Demin at #11.

[Mr B]

Posted on the Mock draft section, but would like to see where y'all stand on this:

This is a Mavs-centric big board. They are not drafting a center, so I removed them from the board.

Tier I - Superstar (potential 1 or 2 on a championship team)

1- Flagg (Comp - Pippen)

Tier II - Star (potential 2 or 3 on the championship team)

2- Harper (Comp - Cunningham lite)

Tier III - Bonafied Starter (potential 3 or 4 on the championship team)

3- Bailey (Comp - Ingram)
4- Edgecombe (Comp - Oladipo)
5- Fears (Comp - Maxey)
6- Jakucionis (Comp - taller Dragic)
7- Knueppel (Comp - Hayward)
8- Johnson (Comp - taller Cam Thomas)

Tier IV - Perenial Starter/Rotation Player (potential 4-7 player on the championship team)

9- Bryant (Comp - Anunoby/Aaron Gordon)
10- Demin (Comp - Giddey-ish)
11- Clifford (Comp - better shooter Josh Hart)
12- Essengue (Comp - Coulibaly)
13- Richardson (Comp - shorter Mathurin)
14- Clayton Jr. (Cop - shorter Jamaal Murray)
15- Philon (Comp - more intense Delon Wright)

Strategy:

If #1:
Draft Flagg (duh)

If #2:
Draft Harper (duh)

If #3:
Try and move down a couple spots where Jakucionis or Fears are still available and land another pick AND dump money (i.e: Hardy/Powell + #4 for #8 + #14). If nothing appears, draft Bayley as he fits better with our young core.

If #4:
Same as #3, try to trade down for more asstes. If Bayley is not there, go for Edgecombe.

If #11 or #12:
Scenario 1: One of the tier III players still available (almost impossible), draft him. We shouldn't trade future picks to move up for any of the tier III players.

Scenario 2: None of tier III available, try and move down, get another pick OR dump money (i.e: Hardy/Powell + #11 for #13-15 or #11 for #19, #26 and #27) and try to draft guys from tier IV. If no opportunity arrives draft Carter Bryant or Egor Demin at #11.

Are you sure they are not drafting a center? I know it seems ridiculous now but hear me out. The Mavs biggest needs in my opinion are finding a PG that can run the show while Kyrie is out. They also need a scorer.

Their two biggest assets (besides any draft picks) are Gafford and PJ. Those guys aren’t getting you KD (not without adding more) but could they get you Collin Sexton and Markkanen? Do that then draft someone like Khaman Maluach to backup Lively.

[Teffer10]

Posted on the Mock draft section, but would like to see where y'all stand on this:

This is a Mavs-centric big board. They are not drafting a center, so I removed them from the board.

Tier I - Superstar (potential 1 or 2 on a championship team)

1- Flagg (Comp - Pippen)

Tier II - Star (potential 2 or 3 on the championship team)

2- Harper (Comp - Cunningham lite)

Tier III - Bonafied Starter (potential 3 or 4 on the championship team)

3- Bailey (Comp - Ingram)
4- Edgecombe (Comp - Oladipo)
5- Fears (Comp - Maxey)
6- Jakucionis (Comp - taller Dragic)
7- Knueppel (Comp - Hayward)
8- Johnson (Comp - taller Cam Thomas)

Tier IV - Perenial Starter/Rotation Player (potential 4-7 player on the championship team)

9- Bryant (Comp - Anunoby/Aaron Gordon)
10- Demin (Comp - Giddey-ish)
11- Clifford (Comp - better shooter Josh Hart)
12- Essengue (Comp - Coulibaly)
13- Richardson (Comp - shorter Mathurin)
14- Clayton Jr. (Cop - shorter Jamaal Murray)
15- Philon (Comp - more intense Delon Wright)

Strategy:

If #1:
Draft Flagg (duh)

If #2:
Draft Harper (duh)

If #3:
Try and move down a couple spots where Jakucionis or Fears are still available and land another pick AND dump money (i.e: Hardy/Powell + #4 for #8 + #14). If nothing appears, draft Bayley as he fits better with our young core.

If #4:
Same as #3, try to trade down for more asstes. If Bayley is not there, go for Edgecombe.

If #11 or #12:
Scenario 1: One of the tier III players still available (almost impossible), draft him. We shouldn't trade future picks to move up for any of the tier III players.

Scenario 2: None of tier III available, try and move down, get another pick OR dump money (i.e: Hardy/Powell + #11 for #13-15 or #11 for #19, #26 and #27) and try to draft guys from tier IV. If no opportunity arrives draft Carter Bryant or Egor Demin at #11.

Are you sure they are not drafting a center? I know it seems ridiculous now but hear me out. The Mavs biggest needs in my opinion are finding a PG that can run the show while Kyrie is out. They also need a scorer.

Their two biggest assets (besides any draft picks) are Gafford and PJ. Those guys aren’t getting you KD (not without adding more) but could they get you Collin Sexton and Markkanen? Do that then draft someone like Khaman Maluach to backup Lively.

I actually suggested something like that on a board. Maluach is someone who would immediately be a useful backup and perfect cheap insurance for Lively.

Also, Mavs could dangle Lively who would have more trade value at least for rebuilding teams.
If we draft a guard, it could take a year or so for them to crack the rotation.

[Mavrelous]

I'm clueless when it comes to the draft, but draft board aren't high on Maluach

[aguiar95]

Are you sure they are not drafting a center? I know it seems ridiculous now but hear me out. The Mavs biggest needs in my opinion are finding a PG that can run the show while Kyrie is out. They also need a scorer.

Their two biggest assets (besides any draft picks) are Gafford and PJ. Those guys aren’t getting you KD (not without adding more) but could they get you Collin Sexton and Markkanen? Do that then draft someone like Khaman Maluach to backup Lively.

Fair enough, but IMO the only center I'd go for Beringuer (If you want lively 2.0) and Queen (If you want a different style). Maluach doesnt have bbiq tô play with AD.

[arkuo]

Been watching youtube commentary on the draft. I like this kid Jakucionis. I'm not sure if he's there at 11 where the Mavs supposedly pick.

[Mr B]

Been watching youtube commentary on the draft. I like this kid Jakucionis. I'm not sure if he's there at 11 where the Mavs supposedly pick.

That is who I personally want the Mavs to draft if he’s available. I’ve seen a few mock drafts that have him going around 8 and seen some that have the Mavs drafting him at 11. He’s the type of player the need in my opinion.

[Darren]

https://nbadraftroom.com/egor-demin/

If the Mavs keep the pick, this player gets some considerations. I'm a bit concern about the lack of shooting, though. 27% from 3P. 69% from FT. Besides that Demin is playing like the Houston / Detriot pick last season. It doesn't take much time to release the ball or jumping to the highest point. That's outstanding athletic ability. It's kinda like Aaron Gordon with passing skills and smartness.

[Teffer10]

If Mavs are taking a guard they better be moving up. Picking any guards in our range will not help us next season. I still say they should consider picking the 7 2 guy from Duke so they can package Gafford with someone to vastly improve our backcourt with a good veteran. We'd have two good centers on rookie contracts too. Guards in our current range would take too long to develop.

[Mavrelous]

Sam Veccine had the Mavs taking Jermiah Fears at 11, most mocks I saw him higher,

[arkuo]

Anyone know when the lottery will be?

First time Rolando Blackman picking for the Mavs.

[Mavrelous]

Anyone know when the lottery will be?

First time Rolando Blackman picking for the Mavs.

Monday...
It'd be amazing if Mavs get #1 or #2.

[Darren]

As of now, I think the priorities are:
1. Draft a surefire playmaker
2. Trade for a surefire playmaker
3. Draft a PF/C, PF/SF,, SF/SG combo with elite defense

[Darren]

To me, I lane towards Egor Demin. If ED is not available, maybe Rasheer Fleming. If you can unload unwanted contract while drafting Fleming. It's also fine addition. Being able to space the floor, RF gives tons of flexibility rotation-wise, cap-wise or trade-wise. By the time AD regressing, you get a good replacement. If RF is quick enough to guard SF as well. This creates lots of possibilities in substitutions..

But I am banking in Demin to become a player as good as both AT for last year draft. That's an absolute steal at 11 if Demin is as good as advertised. But will the Mavs pick another Real Madrid player and a Russian is another story. I wonder if Demin has the intangibles to become a core piece. Pure skillsets and athletic skills are both amazing despite the lack of reliable long jumpers. With the trend to go big at guard positions for position-less basketball in mind, Demin seems like a great fit to a playoff team.

Some people talk about trading DLive. That's nonsense for similar reasons. If Wemby, Chet, Jokic, Gobert, Zubac are barriers to overcome. You need Lively obviously. People talking about injury history should bare in mind that centers injured a lot. It is the lack of core muscles. Same issue bothers Chet. But OKC will not trade Chet for obvious reasons despite injury issues and rookie mistakes.

[Archx]

Anyone know when the lottery will be?

First time Rolando Blackman picking for the Mavs.

Monday...
It'd be amazing if Mavs get #1 or #2.

Then i'll be the first in line screaming that the trade was indeed rigged