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Re: Shams: Evan Mobley wins Defensive Player of the Year 

Post#61 » by NoStatsGuy » Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:23 am

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Castle Black wrote:That's Wemby's award. Sigh.


He'll get his award in no time. Hopefully he doesn't experience any further blood clots.


yea its tough to see anybody else winning it, if wemby plays 65 games or whatever the threshold is.

but always nice for the runnerups to snatch one. i was making fun of mobley when he got bullied by randle and mitch in the playoffs. but he turned into a really nice player, that i wish we had lol
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Re: Shams: Evan Mobley Named 2025 NBA DPOY 

Post#62 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:16 am

Should have been daniels.
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Post#63 » by -Luke- » Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:25 am

I wonder how that would have turned out without the minimum games requirement. Wemby only had 46 games and that's barely more than half, but it seemed like he was the runaway winner before he was sidelined. Pretty sure he wouldn't have gotten a first place votes here and there with only 46 game.
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Re: Shams: Evan Mobley Named 2025 NBA DPOY 

Post#64 » by TravisScott55 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:26 pm

Wish Wemby didn't get injured
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Post#65 » by Crunch 99 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:26 pm

I am glad a player on a good team got the award. Mobley's good defense is more meaningful than Dyson's given his defense contributed to wins and putting his team in great standing. Congratulations Mobley!
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Post#66 » by atlantabbq99 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:12 pm

Dyson Daniels should have gotten DPOY, but the voting was split and respectable, so i'm ok with that.
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Re: Shams: Evan Mobley wins Defensive Player of the Year 

Post#67 » by DKB333 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:11 pm

Cavsfansince84 wrote:That's awesome. I didn't really see it coming but glad he has one now.


It will cost the Cavs an extra 45M over the next 5 seasons. They will be a 2nd apron team now. Say goodbye to Ty Jerome this summer.
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Re: Shams: Evan Mobley wins Defensive Player of the Year 

Post#68 » by toooskies » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:13 pm

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Cavsfansince84 wrote:That's awesome. I didn't really see it coming but glad he has one now.


It will cost the Cavs an extra 45M over the next 5 seasons. They will be a 2nd apron team now. Say goodbye to Ty Jerome this summer.

There's no reasonable way for the Cavs to stay below the 2nd apron unless Brooklyn wants to take Hunter and/or Strus off our hands. So the Cavs may as well assume they're above the 2nd apron the next two years and worry about 2027-28.

Hunter, Strus, and Okoro will all be free agents then, which is enough salary shedding to duck under in the 2027 offseason with any contract we would or would not have offered Jerome. The money on the table for him will be the same (the most we're allowed to offer him) and the years will also probably be up to him. We'd lose him to more money from another team either way.

Whether the Cavs pay for Sam Merrill or not is more in question, I don't think we lock him into more than two years although we can pay him whatever we want. I could see another team offering him more money or more years than the Cavs are willing to commit to.
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Re: Shams: Evan Mobley wins Defensive Player of the Year 

Post#69 » by UcanUwill » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:17 pm

Iwasawitness wrote:
Castle Black wrote:That's Wemby's award. Sigh.


He'll get his award in no time. Hopefully he doesn't experience any further blood clots.


I just so hope he stays healthy. Its been 2 seasons and he has 0 yet, which already feels not right. I hope that kid plays those stupid 65 games from now on, because with all due respect, giving this to other guy than Victor just feels wrong.
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Re: Shams: Evan Mobley wins Defensive Player of the Year 

Post#70 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:50 pm

toooskies wrote:
DKB333 wrote:
Cavsfansince84 wrote:That's awesome. I didn't really see it coming but glad he has one now.


It will cost the Cavs an extra 45M over the next 5 seasons. They will be a 2nd apron team now. Say goodbye to Ty Jerome this summer.

There's no reasonable way for the Cavs to stay below the 2nd apron unless Brooklyn wants to take Hunter and/or Strus off our hands. So the Cavs may as well assume they're above the 2nd apron the next two years and worry about 2027-28.

Hunter, Strus, and Okoro will all be free agents then, which is enough salary shedding to duck under in the 2027 offseason with any contract we would or would not have offered Jerome. The money on the table for him will be the same (the most we're allowed to offer him) and the years will also probably be up to him. We'd lose him to more money from another team either way.

Whether the Cavs pay for Sam Merrill or not is more in question, I don't think we lock him into more than two years although we can pay him whatever we want. I could see another team offering him more money or more years than the Cavs are willing to commit to.
I have the same assumption of those 2, we'll have to see how the summer shakes out.
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Post#71 » by tdotrep2 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:52 pm

lol
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Re: Shams: Evan Mobley wins Defensive Player of the Year 

Post#72 » by jbk1234 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:21 pm

toooskies wrote:
DKB333 wrote:
Cavsfansince84 wrote:That's awesome. I didn't really see it coming but glad he has one now.


It will cost the Cavs an extra 45M over the next 5 seasons. They will be a 2nd apron team now. Say goodbye to Ty Jerome this summer.

There's no reasonable way for the Cavs to stay below the 2nd apron unless Brooklyn wants to take Hunter and/or Strus off our hands. So the Cavs may as well assume they're above the 2nd apron the next two years and worry about 2027-28.

Hunter, Strus, and Okoro will all be free agents then, which is enough salary shedding to duck under in the 2027 offseason with any contract we would or would not have offered Jerome. The money on the table for him will be the same (the most we're allowed to offer him) and the years will also probably be up to him. We'd lose him to more money from another team either way.

Whether the Cavs pay for Sam Merrill or not is more in question, I don't think we lock him into more than two years although we can pay him whatever we want. I could see another team offering him more money or more years than the Cavs are willing to commit to.


If the Cavs are looking to offset Mobley's bump, Okoro will be the one leaving.
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Re: Shams: Evan Mobley wins Defensive Player of the Year 

Post#73 » by DKB333 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:23 pm

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toooskies wrote:
DKB333 wrote:
It will cost the Cavs an extra 45M over the next 5 seasons. They will be a 2nd apron team now. Say goodbye to Ty Jerome this summer.

There's no reasonable way for the Cavs to stay below the 2nd apron unless Brooklyn wants to take Hunter and/or Strus off our hands. So the Cavs may as well assume they're above the 2nd apron the next two years and worry about 2027-28.

Hunter, Strus, and Okoro will all be free agents then, which is enough salary shedding to duck under in the 2027 offseason with any contract we would or would not have offered Jerome. The money on the table for him will be the same (the most we're allowed to offer him) and the years will also probably be up to him. We'd lose him to more money from another team either way.

Whether the Cavs pay for Sam Merrill or not is more in question, I don't think we lock him into more than two years although we can pay him whatever we want. I could see another team offering him more money or more years than the Cavs are willing to commit to.


If the Cavs are looking to offset Mobley's bump, Okoro will be the one leaving.


Okoro stinks. Nobody will want him unless an asset is attached.
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Re: Shams: Evan Mobley Named 2025 NBA DPOY 

Post#74 » by DowJones » Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:40 pm

Mobley is a lock to make an All-NBA team anyway. He was going to get his money.
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Post#75 » by nate33 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:02 pm

I would have picked Dort. That guy is incredible. Wherever a player wants to go, he is already there, in his way. I don't think I've ever seen such a combination of quickness, strength and reaction time. It's all the more impressive that he does it while being relatively short and without a remarkable wingspan.
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Re: Shams: Evan Mobley wins Defensive Player of the Year 

Post#76 » by toooskies » Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:43 pm

DKB333 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
toooskies wrote:There's no reasonable way for the Cavs to stay below the 2nd apron unless Brooklyn wants to take Hunter and/or Strus off our hands. So the Cavs may as well assume they're above the 2nd apron the next two years and worry about 2027-28.

Hunter, Strus, and Okoro will all be free agents then, which is enough salary shedding to duck under in the 2027 offseason with any contract we would or would not have offered Jerome. The money on the table for him will be the same (the most we're allowed to offer him) and the years will also probably be up to him. We'd lose him to more money from another team either way.

Whether the Cavs pay for Sam Merrill or not is more in question, I don't think we lock him into more than two years although we can pay him whatever we want. I could see another team offering him more money or more years than the Cavs are willing to commit to.


If the Cavs are looking to offset Mobley's bump, Okoro will be the one leaving.


Okoro stinks. Nobody will want him unless an asset is attached.

Okoro led the Cavs in on/off plus-minus, and while he's not necessarily driving that number he's also holding his own out there. He's just slowly worked his way to the end of the rotation for an offense-first coach. The thing is, he never forgets to play defense even in that environment, which most of the rest of the team can lose focus on.

Okoro's not making enough money to get us significantly under the 2nd apron. If we offloaded him for no returning salary and let Jerome and Merrill walk, we still wouldn't be far enough under the 2nd apron to fill out the roster with vet minimums.
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Post#77 » by DaddyCool19 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:23 pm

Man the NBA should have a rule, where drafted players cap hit stays at 25%, even if they qualify for the 30% extension and get paid the extra 5% as long as they stay at the team where they played their 1st game. It would reward teams who draft well and keep their core together a bit longer. Especially small market teams.
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Post#78 » by OkcSinceSGA » Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:42 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:Should have been daniels.


Na. Should have been Zu, Amen or Dort. Anchoring top 3 defenses despite missing key defenders all year long AND having superior impact metrics defensively to Daniels, Mobley, JJJ etc. Mobley and Daniels are out. Mobley because he’s just not better than multiple others, and Daniels because as great as he is on the perimeter he’s a specialist and the Hawks were what the 19th ranked defense?

But the karma of this… is the Cavs will now lose key role players due to his salary bump and being second apron repeater tax.
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Re: Shams: Evan Mobley wins Defensive Player of the Year 

Post#79 » by ForeverTFC » Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:50 pm

DKB333 wrote:
Cavsfansince84 wrote:That's awesome. I didn't really see it coming but glad he has one now.


It will cost the Cavs an extra 45M over the next 5 seasons. They will be a 2nd apron team now. Say goodbye to Ty Jerome this summer.


They could only offer $14m a year to begin with. I could see the Nets going after him with a Bruce Brown like contract or the Pistons to potentially replace Hardaway Jr. who expires this year. There was always decent possibility that they would lose him, even without this.
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Post#80 » by Drakeem » Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:19 pm

DaddyCool19 wrote:Man the NBA should have a rule, where drafted players cap hit stays at 25%, even if they qualify for the 30% extension and get paid the extra 5% as long as they stay at the team where they played their 1st game. It would reward teams who draft well and keep their core together a bit longer. Especially small market teams.
Yeah, I find this a bit dumb. This should have been in place the moment supermaxes became a thing.
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