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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#941 » by QB_Eagles » Thu May 8, 2025 6:12 pm

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Mr B wrote:Last I checked they haven’t even started the season yet. As long as they can stay relatively healthy they should be in the mix for the division title. You don’t have to agree for that to be true.

Still, Dallas went 7-10 last season while Pittsburgh went 10-7. If it doesn't make sense for the Steelers to extend Pickens due to lack of roster quality, why does it make sense for the Cowboys? They are already paying top dollar to Lamb, too.

Too? They’re not paying Pickens big money. He’s still in the final year of his rookie deal. Also the Steelers and Cowboys are not in the same position.

"Too" as in you said the Steelers don't want to pay Pickens top money. Why would the Cowboys trade for him and not pay him top money? A 3rd round pick for a 1-year rental diva WR? Let's see if it works out for them.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#942 » by Jaydubb » Thu May 8, 2025 6:20 pm

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Mr B wrote:That goes for every team though. I mean there’s a chance the Eagles suck this year too.

Indeed. Some teams are more likely to screw up than others, though.

True but in a league of parity we see bad teams become good in 1 year and we’ve seen good teams become bad in the same amount of time.

True but also some teams have stayed the same for 30 years. All depends on who’s running things. Starts at the top!
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#943 » by Jaydubb » Thu May 8, 2025 6:21 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:Still, Dallas went 7-10 last season while Pittsburgh went 10-7. If it doesn't make sense for the Steelers to extend Pickens due to lack of roster quality, why does it make sense for the Cowboys? They are already paying top dollar to Lamb, too.

Too? They’re not paying Pickens big money. He’s still in the final year of his rookie deal. Also the Steelers and Cowboys are not in the same position.

"Too" as in you said the Steelers don't want to pay Pickens top money. Why would the Cowboys trade for him and not pay him top money? A 3rd round pick for a 1-year rental diva WR? Let's see if it works out for them.

Pickens is gonna sell a lot of merch and a lot of tickets this year. That’s for sure.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#944 » by Mr B » Thu May 8, 2025 6:28 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:Still, Dallas went 7-10 last season while Pittsburgh went 10-7. If it doesn't make sense for the Steelers to extend Pickens due to lack of roster quality, why does it make sense for the Cowboys? They are already paying top dollar to Lamb, too.

Too? They’re not paying Pickens big money. He’s still in the final year of his rookie deal. Also the Steelers and Cowboys are not in the same position.

"Too" as in you said the Steelers don't want to pay Pickens top money. Why would the Cowboys trade for him and not pay him top money? A 3rd round pick for a 1-year rental diva WR? Let's see if it works out for them.

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Let me explain this again. The Cowboys are not currently paying Pickens big money. They are paying him $3.6M this season. The Cowboys have 3 options when it comes to George Pickens.

A. They can resign him at which point they will be paying him big money. That haven’t resigned him yet.

B. They could let him walk which will give them a 3rd round compensatory pick. Obviously this only happens if he is as divisive as he was in Pittsburgh. Send him away and the team is in the exact same position they were before signing him.

C. The Cowboys can tag Pickens and allow him to seek a trade. Also this obviously only happens if Pickens balls out and keeps his nose clean. At worst, in this scenario, the Cowboys could recoup a 3rd round pick (from the team that trades for him) that will likely be better than the one they traded to get Pickens. Best case scenario in this event, the Cowboys trade Pickens for a 1st.

No matter how you slice it, this deal is good for the Cowboys. Regardless of what YOU think the Cowboys will be a good team this year. At least in the regular season.

As for why it would be bad for the Steelers to pay Pickens, they are a team on the decline. They’re old, they have been running through journeyman QB’s (with no end in site). Say what you want about Dak but Pittsburgh would kill to have Dak as their QB.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#945 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu May 8, 2025 6:34 pm

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Mr B wrote:Too? They’re not paying Pickens big money. He’s still in the final year of his rookie deal. Also the Steelers and Cowboys are not in the same position.

"Too" as in you said the Steelers don't want to pay Pickens top money. Why would the Cowboys trade for him and not pay him top money? A 3rd round pick for a 1-year rental diva WR? Let's see if it works out for them.

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Let me explain this again. The Cowboys are not currently paying Pickens big money. They are paying him $3.6M this season. The Cowboys have 3 options when it comes to George Pickens.

A. They can resign him at which point they will be paying him big money. That haven’t resigned him yet.

B. They could let him walk which will give them a 3rd round compensatory pick. Obviously this only happens if he is as divisive as he was in Pittsburgh. Send him away and the team is in the exact same position they were before signing him.

C. The Cowboys can tag Pickens and allow him to seek a trade. Also this obviously only happens if Pickens balls out and keeps his nose clean. At worst, in this scenario, the Cowboys could recoup a 3rd round pick (from the team that trades for him) that will likely be better than the one they traded to get Pickens. Best case scenario in this event, the Cowboys trade Pickens for a 1st.

No matter how you slice it, this deal is good for the Cowboys. Regardless of what YOU think the Cowboys will be a good team this year. At least in the regular season.

As for why it would be bad for the Steelers to pay Pickens, they are a team on the decline. They’re old, they have been running through journeyman QB’s (with no end in site). Say what you want about Dak but Pittsburgh would kill to have Dak as their QB.

One things we can all say for sure is the talent is more than there when it comes to George Pickens.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#946 » by QB_Eagles » Thu May 8, 2025 6:51 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:
Mr B wrote:Too? They’re not paying Pickens big money. He’s still in the final year of his rookie deal. Also the Steelers and Cowboys are not in the same position.

"Too" as in you said the Steelers don't want to pay Pickens top money. Why would the Cowboys trade for him and not pay him top money? A 3rd round pick for a 1-year rental diva WR? Let's see if it works out for them.

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Let me explain this again. The Cowboys are not currently paying Pickens big money. They are paying him $3.6M this season. The Cowboys have 3 options when it comes to George Pickens.

A. They can resign him at which point they will be paying him big money. That haven’t resigned him yet.

B. They could let him walk which will give them a 3rd round compensatory pick. Obviously this only happens if he is as divisive as he was in Pittsburgh. Send him away and the team is in the exact same position they were before signing him.

C. The Cowboys can tag Pickens and allow him to seek a trade. Also this obviously only happens if Pickens balls out and keeps his nose clean. At worst, in this scenario, the Cowboys could recoup a 3rd round pick (from the team that trades for him) that will likely be better than the one they traded to get Pickens. Best case scenario in this event, the Cowboys trade Pickens for a 1st.

No matter how you slice it, this deal is good for the Cowboys. Regardless of what YOU think the Cowboys will be a good team this year. At least in the regular season.

As for why it would be bad for the Steelers to pay Pickens, they are a team on the decline. They’re old, they have been running through journeyman QB’s (with no end in site). Say what you want about Dak but Pittsburgh would kill to have Dak as their QB.

D. He acts like the diva he's always been, Dallas becomes drama central again and folds in the playoffs – if they even make it there. Teams are wary of Pickens and he signs a 1-year prove-it deal, so the Cowboys get no compensatory pick for him.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#947 » by Cactus Jack » Thu May 8, 2025 7:00 pm

Mr B wrote:Also the Steelers and Cowboys are not in the same position.

If they add Rodgers, they will be. The Steelers are in win now mode with that roster. They have a bunch of older vets.

Again, they would've kept him around if he was worth the trouble. But it seems as if Tomlin & that staff had enough of his antics. His reputation for showing up late and acting immature. Tomlin is a player's coach. So, things must have been way worse behind the scenes. They typically are. The guy has dealt with so many diva personalities over his time as coach.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#948 » by Mr B » Thu May 8, 2025 7:11 pm

QB_Eagles wrote:
Mr B wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:"Too" as in you said the Steelers don't want to pay Pickens top money. Why would the Cowboys trade for him and not pay him top money? A 3rd round pick for a 1-year rental diva WR? Let's see if it works out for them.

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Let me explain this again. The Cowboys are not currently paying Pickens big money. They are paying him $3.6M this season. The Cowboys have 3 options when it comes to George Pickens.

A. They can resign him at which point they will be paying him big money. That haven’t resigned him yet.

B. They could let him walk which will give them a 3rd round compensatory pick. Obviously this only happens if he is as divisive as he was in Pittsburgh. Send him away and the team is in the exact same position they were before signing him.

C. The Cowboys can tag Pickens and allow him to seek a trade. Also this obviously only happens if Pickens balls out and keeps his nose clean. At worst, in this scenario, the Cowboys could recoup a 3rd round pick (from the team that trades for him) that will likely be better than the one they traded to get Pickens. Best case scenario in this event, the Cowboys trade Pickens for a 1st.

No matter how you slice it, this deal is good for the Cowboys. Regardless of what YOU think the Cowboys will be a good team this year. At least in the regular season.

As for why it would be bad for the Steelers to pay Pickens, they are a team on the decline. They’re old, they have been running through journeyman QB’s (with no end in site). Say what you want about Dak but Pittsburgh would kill to have Dak as their QB.

D. He acts like the diva he's always been, Dallas becomes drama central again and folds in the playoffs – if they even make it there. Teams are wary of Pickens and he signs a 1-year prove-it deal, so the Cowboys get no compensatory pick for him.

Everything you stated falls under option B. Let’s say he acts worse than he did in Pittsburgh. He immediately comes in and tries to fight Dak and Jerry at the same time. Absolute worst case scenario as far as his behavior.

The Cowboys would just send him home. Bar him from the facility. We All know that GM’s love talent and there is always a coach out there thinks “I can fix him”. If anyone signs him (even to a minor deal) the Cowboys get a 3rd round comp pick.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#949 » by Mr B » Thu May 8, 2025 7:12 pm

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Mr B wrote:Also the Steelers and Cowboys are not in the same position.

If they add Rodgers, they will be. The Steelers are in win now mode with that roster. They have a bunch of older vets.

Again, they would've kept him around if he was worth the trouble. But it seems as if Tomlin & that staff had enough of his antics. His reputation for showing up late and acting immature. Tomlin is a player's coach. So, things must have been way worse behind the scenes. They typically are. The guy has dealt with so many diva personalities over his time as coach.

I’m not saying he hasn’t and as I stated it makes sense for the Steelers to move on from him. They’re old already know they are not going to resign him. So if a team offers a good pick for him of course they are going to trade him.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#950 » by Mr B » Thu May 8, 2025 7:15 pm

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Mr B wrote:Also the Steelers and Cowboys are not in the same position.

If they add Rodgers, they will be. The Steelers are in win now mode with that roster. They have a bunch of older vets.

Again, they would've kept him around if he was worth the trouble. But it seems as if Tomlin & that staff had enough of his antics. His reputation for showing up late and acting immature. Tomlin is a player's coach. So, things must have been way worse behind the scenes. They typically are. The guy has dealt with so many diva personalities over his time as coach.

As for Rodgers the Steelers would be better off tanking for one of the QB’s in next years draft. Rodgers is injury prone and washed. If the Steelers are looking to stay away from toxic/divisive players they should stay clear of Aaron Rodgers.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#951 » by QB_Eagles » Thu May 8, 2025 7:32 pm

Mr B wrote:If anyone signs him (even to a minor deal) the Cowboys get a 3rd round comp pick.

No, that is not how compensatory picks work.
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Post#952 » by Jaydubb » Thu May 8, 2025 7:44 pm

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Mr B wrote:If anyone signs him (even to a minor deal) the Cowboys get a 3rd round comp pick.

No, that is not how compensatory picks work.

Was just about to say that.lol
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#953 » by Jaydubb » Thu May 8, 2025 7:45 pm

Mr B wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:
Mr B wrote:
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Let me explain this again. The Cowboys are not currently paying Pickens big money. They are paying him $3.6M this season. The Cowboys have 3 options when it comes to George Pickens.

A. They can resign him at which point they will be paying him big money. That haven’t resigned him yet.

B. They could let him walk which will give them a 3rd round compensatory pick. Obviously this only happens if he is as divisive as he was in Pittsburgh. Send him away and the team is in the exact same position they were before signing him.

C. The Cowboys can tag Pickens and allow him to seek a trade. Also this obviously only happens if Pickens balls out and keeps his nose clean. At worst, in this scenario, the Cowboys could recoup a 3rd round pick (from the team that trades for him) that will likely be better than the one they traded to get Pickens. Best case scenario in this event, the Cowboys trade Pickens for a 1st.

No matter how you slice it, this deal is good for the Cowboys. Regardless of what YOU think the Cowboys will be a good team this year. At least in the regular season.

As for why it would be bad for the Steelers to pay Pickens, they are a team on the decline. They’re old, they have been running through journeyman QB’s (with no end in site). Say what you want about Dak but Pittsburgh would kill to have Dak as their QB.

D. He acts like the diva he's always been, Dallas becomes drama central again and folds in the playoffs – if they even make it there. Teams are wary of Pickens and he signs a 1-year prove-it deal, so the Cowboys get no compensatory pick for him.

Everything you stated falls under option B. Let’s say he acts worse than he did in Pittsburgh. He immediately comes in and tries to fight Dak and Jerry at the same time. Absolute worst case scenario as far as his behavior.

The Cowboys would just send him home. Bar him from the facility. We All know that GM’s love talent and there is always a coach out there thinks “I can fix him”. If anyone signs him (even to a minor deal) the Cowboys get a 3rd round comp pick.

I think all the scenarios you are going over are the best of the “worst case scenarios”
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#954 » by Mr B » Thu May 8, 2025 7:51 pm

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Mr B wrote:If anyone signs him (even to a minor deal) the Cowboys get a 3rd round comp pick.

No, that is not how compensatory picks work.

Maybe not but if he is signed as a free agent the Cowboys will get a comp pick.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#955 » by Mr B » Thu May 8, 2025 7:51 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
Mr B wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:D. He acts like the diva he's always been, Dallas becomes drama central again and folds in the playoffs – if they even make it there. Teams are wary of Pickens and he signs a 1-year prove-it deal, so the Cowboys get no compensatory pick for him.

Everything you stated falls under option B. Let’s say he acts worse than he did in Pittsburgh. He immediately comes in and tries to fight Dak and Jerry at the same time. Absolute worst case scenario as far as his behavior.

The Cowboys would just send him home. Bar him from the facility. We All know that GM’s love talent and there is always a coach out there thinks “I can fix him”. If anyone signs him (even to a minor deal) the Cowboys get a 3rd round comp pick.

I think all the scenarios you are going over are the best of the “worst case scenarios”

I guess we will just have to wait and see.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#956 » by Cactus Jack » Thu May 8, 2025 7:59 pm

Mr B wrote:
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Mr B wrote:If anyone signs him (even to a minor deal) the Cowboys get a 3rd round comp pick.

No, that is not how compensatory picks work.

Maybe not but if he is signed as a free agent the Cowboys will get a comp pick.

The comp pick formula is based on how much money he would potentially get in free agency. So, if he signs for less than market value, the team wouldn't get a 3rd round comp pick for him.

The Cowboys could also sign him long-term. But there's risk with that too. Given his reputation.
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Post#957 » by Jaydubb » Thu May 8, 2025 8:04 pm

Mr B wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mr B wrote:Everything you stated falls under option B. Let’s say he acts worse than he did in Pittsburgh. He immediately comes in and tries to fight Dak and Jerry at the same time. Absolute worst case scenario as far as his behavior.

The Cowboys would just send him home. Bar him from the facility. We All know that GM’s love talent and there is always a coach out there thinks “I can fix him”. If anyone signs him (even to a minor deal) the Cowboys get a 3rd round comp pick.

I think all the scenarios you are going over are the best of the “worst case scenarios”

I guess we will just have to wait and see.

Here’s a scenario for ya.

Dak Prescott is well known to go dildo shopping with his teammates and also send dick picks to random women that don’t want it. What would happen if dak invited Pickens out to go dildo shopping, but then Pickens declined and then called dak a homosexual slur? Then, dak trying to get back at Pickens, sends dick pics to George Pickens mom and girlfriend.

And to make things worse, to settle the beef, what if Micah parsons calls a player only meeting and decides to start an illegal underground fight club. What happens in fight club stays in fight club. If you have beef settle it there. Eventually, half the team ends up crippled and without teeth because they’ve been beat up too badly.

No comp picks would be rewarded under this scenario.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#958 » by QB_Eagles » Thu May 8, 2025 8:13 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:I think all the scenarios you are going over are the best of the “worst case scenarios”

I guess we will just have to wait and see.

Here’s a scenario for ya.

Dak Prescott is well known to go dildo shopping with his teammates and also send dick picks to random women that don’t want it. What would happen if dak invited Pickens out to go dildo shopping, but then Pickens declined and then called dak a homosexual slur? Then, dak trying to get back at Pickens, sends dick pics to George Pickens mom and girlfriend.

And to make things worse, to settle the beef, what if Micah parsons calls a player only meeting and decides to start an illegal underground fight club. What happens in fight club stays in fight club. If you have beef settle it there. Eventually, half the team ends up crippled and without teeth because they’ve been beat up too badly.

No comp picks would be rewarded under this scenario.

This is such nonsense!!!

There would be no Cowboys underground fight club without Jerry Jones filming it for profit.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#959 » by Cactus Jack » Thu May 8, 2025 8:19 pm

QB_Eagles wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mr B wrote:I guess we will just have to wait and see.

Here’s a scenario for ya.

Dak Prescott is well known to go dildo shopping with his teammates and also send dick picks to random women that don’t want it. What would happen if dak invited Pickens out to go dildo shopping, but then Pickens declined and then called dak a homosexual slur? Then, dak trying to get back at Pickens, sends dick pics to George Pickens mom and girlfriend.

And to make things worse, to settle the beef, what if Micah parsons calls a player only meeting and decides to start an illegal underground fight club. What happens in fight club stays in fight club. If you have beef settle it there. Eventually, half the team ends up crippled and without teeth because they’ve been beat up too badly.

No comp picks would be rewarded under this scenario.

This is such nonsense!!!

There would be no Cowboys underground fight club without Jerry Jones filming it for profit.

:lol:

You know Jerry has his own fight club lol.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#960 » by Jaydubb » Thu May 8, 2025 8:39 pm

QB_Eagles wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mr B wrote:I guess we will just have to wait and see.

Here’s a scenario for ya.

Dak Prescott is well known to go dildo shopping with his teammates and also send dick picks to random women that don’t want it. What would happen if dak invited Pickens out to go dildo shopping, but then Pickens declined and then called dak a homosexual slur? Then, dak trying to get back at Pickens, sends dick pics to George Pickens mom and girlfriend.

And to make things worse, to settle the beef, what if Micah parsons calls a player only meeting and decides to start an illegal underground fight club. What happens in fight club stays in fight club. If you have beef settle it there. Eventually, half the team ends up crippled and without teeth because they’ve been beat up too badly.

No comp picks would be rewarded under this scenario.

This is such nonsense!!!

There would be no Cowboys underground fight club without Jerry Jones filming it for profit.

True, that’s why it would be a players only meeting!

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